For those who leapt up on the outrage bandwagon

[MajGenl.Meade]

Scooter BigRR

[Gob]

Suppose the clue had been " a small bite from a dog" or a small drink" to avoid the connotation with a nip in the air (and a connotation to japanese air attacks)? Would those uses of "nip" also be offensive?'

Short for nipperkin, ultimately from Middle Low German nippen or Middle Dutch nipen ("to sip; nip"; > Dutch nippen). Compare also German nippen (“to sip; taste”).

[BoSoxGal]

I’m just puzzled over the reference to cleaning products and Hispanics.

[ex-khobar Andy]

I’m just puzzled over the reference to cleaning products and Hispanics.

Yes that one left me scratching my head.

[Big RR]

If you're serious, I'd guess it's Spic and Span

https://www.spicnspan.com/

[Scooter]

I would think that she is referring to Spic and Span, about which I don't ever recall hearing any sort of controversy. She is grasping to bolster her non-existent point.

[Big RR]

Actually, I record National Lampoon one time publishing a list of guts points for "City Adventurers"--one was to say (or bring) Spic and Span to a Puerto Rican Janitor; the highest point value was to say to a black man playing his boom box on the subway (it was the 70s), "hey sambo, turn down the jungle music; those of us who can are trying to read". So I would guess the (I presume unintentional) offense of the product name was known nearly 50 years ago--but I have never heard of a controversy regarding it. Indeed, by way of annectdotal evidence, both my inlaws were from Puerto Rico and I recall seeing Spic and Span in their house many times.

[BoSoxGal]

The phrase is ~500-700 years old, but sure, it’s a slur on Hispanics.

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Originally from “new as new woodchips”
From spick-and-span-new (literally “new as a recently made spike and chip of wood”) (1570s), from spick (“nail”, variant of spike) + Middle English span-new (“very new”) (from circa 1300 until 1800s), from Old Norse span-nyr, from spann (“chip”) (cognate to Old English spón, English spoon, due to old spoons being made of wood) + nyr (“new”) (cognate to Old English nīwe, English new).[1] Imitation of Dutch spiksplinternieuw (literally “spike-splinter new”)[2], for a freshly built ship. Observe that fresh woodchips are firm and light (if from light wood), but decay and darken rapidly, hence the origin of the term.

I admit, I struggle between my obvious inclination to avoid offending people at nearly all cost - and occasionally wanting to bitch slap them for being really fucking dumb.

[Big RR]

Well, to be fair, "spic" (usually without the "K") has been a hispanic slur used in the western hemisphere against latin americans, and to many is as emotionally charged as "nigger". The word nigger has been removed from most product names, and even words that sound like it, such as niggardly (which has zero to do with race) have fallen into disuse; likewise I could see some being offended by its use, even though the product name has absolutely zero to do with hispanics at all. I haven't heard for calls of a brand name change, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Again, I think etiquette demands that we try to avoid offense where it exists, even if we think that offense is misplaced, but ultimately brand names come down to public reception, be it nigger head cigarettes, the washington redskins, or spic and span floor cleaner. I'm not for banning any words, just considering the feelings of others with how some words are used.

[MajGenl.Meade]

I admit, I struggle between my obvious inclination to avoid offending people at nearly all cost - and occasionally wanting to bitch slap them for being really fucking dumb.

Yes. That.

[dales]

'Old Hangtown' Placerville may remove noose from city logo

By Mike Moffitt, SFGATE Updated 3:26 pm PDT, Tuesday, July 14, 2020


A Sierra Nevada foothills city with a history of vigilante justice is considering scrubbing a controversial image from its official logo.

The City of Placerville logo shows a miner panning for gold during the California gold rush. In the background is a tree with a noose dangling from its only branch.

Today, nooses are most commonly associated with lynchings of Black people.

But City Manager Cleve Morris told CBS13 the image on the logo refers to Placerville’s history of frontier justice. On Tuesday evening, the City Council reportedly will decide whether to remove the noose.


The symbolism harkens back to the 19th century when Placerville, formerly Hangtown and Old Dry Diggins, developed a reputation for speedy capital punishment. The town began being called “Hangtown” following an incident in 1849.



Supposedly, a local gambler named Lopez left a local saloon after a successful day at the card tables. Three men intending to relieve him of his winnings jumped him, but he was able to fight them off with the help of townspeople who came to his aid. Soon the thieves were captured. In addition to the attempted robbery, the trio were accused of being wanted for murder.

Their trial lasted all of 30 minutes. A mob demanded “death by hanging” after a unanimous guilty verdict was read.

“They took law into their own hands at that time and there were people that were hanged for their crimes,” Morris said.

The stump of the hanging tree now sits in the cellar of “The Hangman’s Tree” tavern on Historic Main Street.

Placerville will still keep its nickname, “Hangtown” or “Old Hangtown,” for now. The council reportedly will not act on a proposal to change the nickname at Tuesday’s meeting.

[Long Run]

Good thing, stopped this domino falling craze before they got to Pollock Pines, Short Place and White Hall.

[liberty]

Racial slur: All lives matter

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12110240/ ... r-indiana/
Who was Jessica Doty Whitaker? The woman shot and killed for saying ‘all lives matter’

[Bicycle Bill]

Racial slur: All lives matter

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12110240/ ... r-indiana/
Who was Jessica Doty Whitaker? The woman shot and killed for saying ‘all lives matter’

No, she's the woman who was shot and killed because some sonuvabitch who clings to that Second Amendment "I got a right to tote a gun" bullshit like Linus from 'Peanuts' clings to his blanket flipped his fucking lid and pulled a trigger like he was a nine-year-old kid playing with a cap pistol.
And her piece of shit fiance who turned around and blindly returned fire like it was the "Shootout at the Canal Court Corral" isn't a whole helluvalot better.  Frankly, I think the world would be better off without hotheads like either one of these.

Maybe those of us with half a brain should just lock ourselves down in our "Purge Shelters" for about a month or so, like we would have done in the 1960s in the case of nuclear attack, and let the rest of the bastards cull themselves.  Then, after the gunsmoke settles and the blood stops flowing, just emerge from the bunkers, pick up and compost the bodies, and get back to our lives.

-"BB"-

[TPFKA@W]

The canal used to be a nice place to hang out and I thought of buying a place there. No longer the case.

[Gob]

Who was Jessica Doty Whitaker? The woman shot and killed for saying ‘all lives matter’

She was shot for living in a country where guns are normalised, and murder petty.

[liberty]

"Saying “all lives matter” is now being twisted by the left’s narrative as a form of hate speech".

[Big RR]

I have never heard it labeld "hate speech"; but come on, if I say support the veterans, I never hear anyone saying "No, it should be support everyone". Why is the phrase "Black Lives Matter" so hard to understand?

You want to form an "All lives matter" movement--go right ahead; but it is not a counter to Blacl Lives Matter nor should it be. they are two very different things.

[MajGenl.Meade]

"Saying “all lives matter” is now being twisted by the left’s narrative as a form of hate speech".

No, it's deflective speech - an attempt by whites (and others) to deny and downplay the police brutality against minorities. Someone wrote, "When I say 'Save the Whales', it does not mean that I think dolphins, porpoises, sharks, turtles, tigers, elephants and so on are not worth protection".

Try to use your head for something other than holding up your hair, eh?

[BoSoxGal]

"Saying “all lives matter” is now being twisted by the left’s narrative as a form of hate speech".

No, it's deflective speech - an attempt by whites (and others) to deny and downplay the police brutality against minorities. Someone wrote, "When I say 'Save the Whales', it does not mean that I think dolphins, porpoises, sharks, turtles, tigers, elephants and so on are not worth protection".

Try to use your head for something other than holding up your hair, eh?

What. A. Horse’s. Ass.