The WV mine wars.

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Darren
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The WV mine wars.

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Everyone has heard of the Hatfield-McCoy dust up. Many are not as familiar with the mine wars. A roommate in college was working on a masters in public administration.

For whatever reason he delved into the archives at WVU for some material. One of the photos showed a miner's bed surrounded by sheet iron to protect them from shots fired into the house at night.

On a similar note I never knew until starting a book, that when miners were incapacitated on the job, their wives could work off the debt at the company store with the mine bosses. There was even a "token" of sorts that was used for confirmation.

"MATEWAN, W.Va. (AP) — The bullet holes in the brick wall of a former post office serve as a reminder of how Appalachian coal miners fought to improve the lives of workers a century ago.

Ten people were killed in a gun battle between miners, who were led by a local police chief, and a group of private security guards hired to evict them for joining a union in Matewan, a small “company town” in West Virginia.

Plans to publicly commemorate what became known as the Matewan Massacre have been delayed by the coronavirus pandemic until September at least. But historians consider the bloodshed on May 19, 1920, memorialized in the 1987 film “Matewan,” to be a landmark moment in the battles for workers’ rights that raged across the Appalachian coalfields in the early 20th century.

“The company town system was extremely oppressive," said Lou Martin, a history professor at Chatham University in Pittsburgh and a board member of the West Virginia Mine Wars Museum in Matewan. "The company owned the houses, the only store in town, ran the church and controlled every aspect of the miners’ lives.”"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/matewan-mass ... 45624.html

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16 Tons by Tennessee Ernie Ford*. Repeated verse:
You load sixteen tons, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the company store
* Apparently not. According to Wikipedia the song predated Ford's hit version and was written by Merle Travis about a miner in Muhlenberg County in KY, a few miles from me. John Prine's family (but not Prine himself) originated from Muhlenberg County.

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This may have been a rerun but I recently viewed this on one of the local PBS channels.

Interesting stuff, especially due to the fact that Baldwin Locomotive is a place I'm quite familiar with.

Obviously, there were good people on both sides... or not.

The Mine Wars: The desire for dignity runs deep.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperi ... eminewars/
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ex-khobar Andy wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 5:16 pm
16 Tons by Tennessee Ernie Ford*. Repeated verse:
You load sixteen tons, what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the company store
* Apparently not. According to Wikipedia the song predated Ford's hit version and was written by Merle Travis about a miner in Muhlenberg County in KY, a few miles from me. John Prine's family (but not Prine himself) originated from Muhlenberg County.
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"Wess tells the story of Esau as it was told to him.

“Esau was issued only to women, and it was a form of scrip that would enable a women to purchase food for her children during the time that her husband couldn’t work. But it was only good for 30 days, and if her husband went back to work within those 30 days, then the company in their kindness would forgive the debt. And if he did not go back to work at the end of 30 days, then the scrip became a loan that was due and payable in full on day 30. And of the course the women didn’t have jobs or scrip or money, and so they had to pay it back—and it was a collateralized loan—and the women themselves were the collateral. Their physical selves would be used to pay the debt.”

It gets worse. We head up to the store’s vast third-floor ballroom, which company officials and mine guards treated as a club house of sorts. We peer into a small wing off of the main room which Joy, the store’s owner, refers to as The Shoe Room."

https://www.appalachianhistory.net/2013 ... -room.html
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Darren wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:34 am
"Wess tells the story of Esau as it was told to him.

“Esau was issued only to women, and it was a form of scrip that would enable a women to purchase food for her children during the time that her husband couldn’t work. But it was only good for 30 days, and if her husband went back to work within those 30 days, then the company in their kindness would forgive the debt. And if he did not go back to work at the end of 30 days, then the scrip became a loan that was due and payable in full on day 30. And of the course the women didn’t have jobs or scrip or money, and so they had to pay it back—and it was a collateralized loan—and the women themselves were the collateral. Their physical selves would be used to pay the debt.”

It gets worse. We head up to the store’s vast third-floor ballroom, which company officials and mine guards treated as a club house of sorts. We peer into a small wing off of the main room which Joy, the store’s owner, refers to as The Shoe Room."

https://www.appalachianhistory.net/2013 ... -room.html
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I saw Esau sitting on a seesaw.

How many s* in that?

*esses? s's? a kid can say it but never know how to spell it
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