2020 Election results

[ex-khobar Andy]

Per Jimmy Kimmel:

“But even with all this tension, Trump has not lost his sense of humor. For instance, this morning he tweeted, ‘We will win!’ Which is funny. We have a reality show host who will not accept reality.”

[Bicycle Bill]

Trump forgot the first rule of government.



Let's hope the Democrats were paying better attention.

-"BB"-

[Sue U]

Per Jimmy Kimmel:

“But even with all this tension, Trump has not lost his sense of humor. For instance, this morning he tweeted, ‘We will win!’ Which is funny. We have a reality show host who will not accept reality.”

Makes perfect sense, though, since nothing about his "reality TV" show was real anyway.

Here's the thing, though: All the denial, conspiracy-mongering and general shit-stirring actually has a purpose beyond Trump's sheer pettiness (which is itself also a tremendous factor). Trump and his party are playing their "base" in order to continue the grift:

1) Keeping the base enraged keeps it Trumpist, which facilitates Trump's apparent plan to fully integrate the RNC and Republican Party as a subsidiary of the Trump Organization, to be milked for all it's worth by Failson Junior and his girlfriend.

2) Keeping the GOP Trumpist may help insulate Trump from criminal prosecution through political leverage of prosecutorial agencies and/or the threat of electoral retaliation/physical violence by his supporters.

3) Keeping the base enraged will help keep it engaged through the special Senate election in Georgia in January, which is a big reason for Mitch McConnell and GOP Senators to pretend Trump and the GOP are somehow victims of a Democrat fraud.

There may be other reasons, but these just seem the most obvious.

[BoSoxGal]

That is all spot on - and the very reason (as you’ve also posted elsewhere) that NY and the USA need to prosecute every crime to the fullest extent. Shut him up honestly by putting him in public housing for the next 10-20 - if he lasts that long.

But it’s a pipe dream; he’ll get away with everything.

[Sue U]

But it’s a pipe dream; he’ll get away with everything.

"If you will it, it is no dream, and if you don't, a dream it will remain; but even so, all real actions begin with a dream."

--T Herzl

[Darren]

But it’s a pipe dream; he’ll get away with everything.

"If you will it, it is no dream, and if you don't, a dream it will remain; but even so, all real actions begin with a dream."

--T Herzl

Depends on who you're discussing.

I learned the father of a young man that I met by buying a truck recently was an observer during the ballot counting for Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. We talked about what he saw along with a independent witness.

Observers were not allowed to observe. I wonder why ... NOT!

[Joe Guy]

...I learned the father of a young man that I met by buying a truck recently was an observer during the ballot counting for Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. We talked about what he saw along with a independent witness.

Observers were not allowed to observe. I wonder why ... NOT!

So a stranger told you that his father was not allowed to observe ballot counting in Allegheny County?

You should report this to Tucker Carlson.

[Darren]

...I learned the father of a young man that I met by buying a truck recently was an observer during the ballot counting for Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. We talked about what he saw along with a independent witness.

Observers were not allowed to observe. I wonder why ... NOT!

So a stranger told you that his father was not allowed to observe ballot counting in Allegheny County?

You should report this to Tucker Carlson.

That was directly from his father who observed the count. Happily an independent observer saw the same.

I won't get into the details. The entire set up including the cameras for the observers prevented them from doing their job.

[Joe Guy]

That was directly from his father who observed the count. Happily an independent observer saw the same.

I won't get into the details. The entire set up including the cameras for the observers prevented them from doing their job.

Do you interpret that as evidence of voter fraud?

[Darren]

That was directly from his father who observed the count. Happily an independent observer saw the same.

I won't get into the details. The entire set up including the cameras for the observers prevented them from doing their job.

Do you interpret that as evidence of voter fraud?

Counting is supposed to be a visible process. It wasn't.

Ballots were moved to several locations that could not be observed.

One issue was some of the the mailed in ballots were folded. Even after unfolding and straightening machine jams still happened. Those were removed from sight.

No one counted the total ballots received. The supervisor was questioned and had no answer.

[Joe Guy]

That's a lot of hearsay but even if true I don't know how that proves any kind of fraud took place - or who would have benefited from it.

[BoSoxGal]

"If you will it, it is no dream, and if you don't, a dream it will remain; but even so, all real actions begin with a dream."

--T Herzl

I love this!

[BoSoxGal]

Darren’s been playing over at Parler.

[Scooter]

Trump's lawsuits are collapsing all over the country as his lawyers face humiliating rebukes from judges for failing to produce any evidence to support their allegations.

[Darren]

That's a lot of hearsay but even if true I don't know how that proves any kind of fraud took place - or who would have benefited from it.

My repeating it is hearsay. I know what I heard. I haven't posted all of it.

Allegheny County went for Clinton in 2016. Trump still took Pennsylvania because Clinton didn't get as many votes in the county as Obama. I need to check how the vote tallied for Trump & Biden.

Do you think Biden pulled more votes than Clinton in the county?

[Darren]

Darren’s been playing over at Parler.

I'm still using the same internet info source for election news I used in 1998. You won't find it with a search engine.

[Bicycle Bill]

I'm still using the same internet info source for election news I used in 1998.  You won't find it with a search engine.

"You won't find it with a search engine."

And why is this, I wonder?  A members-only site?  A pay-site?  A wack-job site, like Q-Anon or 4-chan?  A site on the Deep Web or the Dark Web, where a lot of the unsavory and downright illegal shit is found?



And that is supposed to be a sign of honesty, reliability, legitimacy, and transparency??

I recommend you see your doctor; you're desperately in need of a colonoscopy.
Or at least an Rx for a jug of that Go-Lytely prep solution to clear some of the shit out of your system.

-"BB"-

[BoSoxGal]

Do you think Biden pulled more votes than Clinton in the county?

Why would you think he couldn’t?

[ex-khobar Andy]

That's a lot of hearsay but even if true I don't know how that proves any kind of fraud took place - or who would have benefited from it.

My repeating it is hearsay. I know what I heard. I haven't posted all of it.

It's not even hearsay. I think technically it's called double hearsay. You did not speak directly to the witness - you are reporting what the guy you spoke to, told you what he was told by the alleged witness, his father. And the guy you spoke to was someone you met while buying a truck; so you are unable to provide an independent assessment of his honesty based on more than a few minutes of acquaintance. The Texas Lieutenant Governor is offering $1,000,000 for anyone providing evidence of voter fraud. I'll even give you the website URL for 10% of whatever you get.

Try harder next time, Darren. 1998 is 22 years ago. Honestly, technology has moved on since then.

[Scooter]

Allegany County

2012
Obama 352,684 (56.54%)
Romney 262,039 (42.01%)
Other 9,101 (1.46%)

2016
Clinton 367,617 (55.94%)
Trump 259,480 (39.48%)
Other 30,092 (4.59%)

2020
Biden 421,004 (59.48%)
Trump 275,955 (38.99%)
Other 10,876 (1.53%)

Source

There wasn't any major move here over the past three elections. From 2012 to 2016 the net movement was from Republican to minor parties, with Clinton largely holding her own. From 2016 to 2020 the net movement was from minor parties to Democratic, with Trump largely holding his own. Not a lot of tea leaves to read here.