"Unbelievable Crime" says Trump

[Joe Guy]

Ex-President Donald Trump embraced his inner National Enquirer on Saturday, announcing that the Arizona Senate’s election auditors have found “unbelievable Election crime" in the 2020 presidential election.

“The entire Database of Maricopa County in Arizona has been DELETED!,” Trump said.

It hasn’t. Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer immediately called the claim "unhinged".

"I’m literally looking at our voter registration database on my other screen," he said. "Right now. We can’t indulge these insane lies any longer. As a party. As a state. As a country. This is as readily falsifiable as 2+2=5. If we don’t call this out..."

Richer, by the way, is a Republican, elected in November to oversee the county’s elections.

I suppose, in the Trump’s world, that makes him yet another RINO or a traitor or whatever he’s calling the shockingly few Republican leaders willing to speak out about the insanity now underway in Arizona. (Fortunately, there are a few.)
Trump's aHA moment that isn't

Trump’s a-HA! moment comes three days after Senate President Karen Fann, R-Prescott, laid out what she calls “serious issues” thus far found by the Trump ninjas she hired to search for that ever-elusive evidence that Trump really won the election.

Among those issues, the Cyber Ninjas found what they believe are deleted voter files. But instead of checking it out, as real auditors would do, they announced their suspicions to the world via Fann’s letter to the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors.

The Senate’s liaison to the audit then promptly concluded that skullduggery was afoot:

“Breaking Update: Maricopa County deleted a directory full of election databases from the 2020 election cycle days before the election equipment was delivered to the audit. This is spoliation of evidence!”

Maricopa County officials on Thursday called the claim “outrageous, completely baseless and beneath the dignity of the Arizona Senate”.

Which is, of course, ridiculous. Any dignity the Arizona Senate had went out the window when Fann announced that she was hiring a company that has no elections experience, other than a CEO who has promoted claims that the election was stolen, to conduct her “independent, unbiased” audit.

But I digress. The county plans to hold a public meeting on Monday “to refute lies and lay out the facts”.

“It's clearer by the day: the people hired by the Senate are in way over their heads,” Supervisors’ Chairman Jack Sellers, also a Republican, said on Thursday. “This is not funny; this is dangerous.”

Ken Bennett now says maybe it's not corruption

But it plays well for Trump, who on Saturday said Attorney General Mark Brnovich “will now be forced to look into this unbelievable election crime.”

“The DELETION of an entire database and critical Election files of Maricopa County is unprecedented,” Trump said.

Or, as people with actual elections experience say, not at all unusual. Just because a file has been deleted, they say, doesn't mean the data is gone.

Ken Bennett, the Senate’s liaison to the audit, on Friday walked back his earlier claim that the county destroyed evidence, conceding there might be a reasonable explanation for why the files were deleted.

“Maybe it was deleted because it was a duplicate of something that was elsewhere,” he told The Arizona Republic’s Jen Fifield.

Gee, maybe Bennett and Fann should have found out before announcing to the world that Maricopa County officials are corrupt.

But hey, mission accomplished.

It becomes clearer by the day that the Senate’s “independent, unbiased” audit is anythig but.

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[Gob]

Trump, the gift that never stops giving!

[ex-khobar Andy]

Well if he called it an "Unbelievable Crime" I'll for once go along with his judgment. Totally unbelievable.

[Burning Petard]

Which is, of course, ridiculous. Any dignity the Arizona Senate had went out the window when Fann announced that she was hiring a company that has no elections experience, other than a CEO who has promoted claims that the election was stolen, to conduct her “independent, unbiased” audit.

Amen.

Remember when Hillary Clinton was strongly rebuked for saying the GOP contains some who belonged in a 'basket of deplorables"? Her estimate of the size of the basket now seems too small.

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[Bicycle Bill]

If anyone would know the first thing about an "unbelievable crime", that someone would be the disgraced former POTUS.

-"BB"-

[liberty]

But then you still want a voting system that can be cheated; anytime a vote is not transparent, people have a right to assume the election was stolen. I want a system that can’t be abused or at least as secure as humanly possible. Why shouldn’t people be required to have an official photo ID to vote? Shouldn’t a person have to prove he is qualified to vote? I think you want stolen elections as long as you are the ones doing the stealing.

As far as the count going in Arizona is concerned, I don’t think it will prove anything. How do you tell one ballot from another? How does one tell a valid vote from an illegitimate one? I know that paper can have differences in composition, but I doubt that was taken into account in printing the ballots. Do I think the election could have been stolen? Sure it could have been stolen; democrats have stolen elections before.

[Bicycle Bill]

Look, I don't know where or how you voted, but when I voted against Trump all four times (the primary in 2016, the general election in 2016, the primary in 2020, and the general election in 2020), I had already gone down to the courthouse and registered myself as a voter, producing a valid government-issued ID (my driver's license and my Social Security card), along with utility bills and such to indicate that I did indeed reside at the address I provided.  I also had a copy of my birth certificate if they had asked for it (it might have been required when I initially registered back in 1972 — I can't remember that far back — although it wasn't needed the two times I've moved since then), and even then the state should have their own copy of my birth certificate somewhere in their records if they really needed it.

Even so, when I arrived at the polling place I had to again provide my driver's license and give them my address — which they compared against the voter registration book(s) the two poll workers had.  Once they agreed that the information matched, then — and only then — did they give me my ballot and I proceeded to vote.

Now my mother was voting absentee during the last few years of her life.  Prior to that she had gone through the same rigamarole, and when she got so elderly that it was inconvenient for her to make her own way to the polls (I wasn't always available to take her), she and I went to the County Clerk, again with her identification, and she registered as an indefinitely-confined absentee voter.  Then, when the election date came, she was mailed a ballot which she filled out and sealed into a return envelope.  As a registered voter myself I signed off on the envelope as a witness, attesting that no one but her had marked the ballot and that she had not been coerced, paid, or otherwise told how to vote, and then mailed the envelope containing the ballot ... which was subsequently delivered to the County Clerk by a uniformed representative of the U.S. Government.  And so long as she voted in the prior election, she was automatically sent a ballot for the following election.

What the fuck more do you expect someone to do???

-"BB"-

[Joe Guy]

Well, libster, what makes you believe our election system is not secure as humanly possible? And if a person can create a counterfeit ballot, as you seem to think can be done, why couldn't they also print a counterfeit ID?

Which elections have the democrats stolen?

[liberty]

Well, libster, what makes you believe our election system is not secure as humanly possible? And if a person can create a counterfeit ballot, as you seem to think can be done, why couldn't they also print a counterfeit ID?

Which elections have the democrats stolen?

How Johnson Won Election He'd Lost - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

A study of Lyndon B. Johnson provides new evidence that the 36th President stole his first election to the United States Senate, in 1948.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Trump, the grift that never stops grifting!

FTFY

[MajGenl.Meade]

Lib's ideal of open and free elections is to go back to 1859. Everyone got to see what you did but other than that, just about perfect

[ex-khobar Andy]

Well, libster, what makes you believe our election system is not secure as humanly possible? And if a person can create a counterfeit ballot, as you seem to think can be done, why couldn't they also print a counterfeit ID?

Which elections have the democrats stolen?

How Johnson Won Election He'd Lost - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

A study of Lyndon B. Johnson provides new evidence that the 36th President stole his first election to the United States Senate, in 1948.

I'm not defending LBJ; but let's not forget that the election he supposedly stole - and I tend to support that view - was the Democratic primary, not the Senate election itself.

[Econoline]

1948 United States Senate, Texas Democratic Party runoff election results:
Party . . . . . . . Candidate . . . . . . . Votes . . . . %
Democratic . . . Lyndon B. Johnson . .494,191 . . 50.004%
Democratic . . . Coke Stevenson . . . .494,104 . .49.996%
Total votes . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 988,295 .100.000%

United States Senate election in Texas, 1948, results:
Party . . . . . . . Candidate . . . . . . Votes . . . . %
Democratic . . . Lyndon Johnson . . 702,985 . . 66.22%
Republican . . . Jack Porter . . . . . .349,665 . . 32.94%
Prohibition . . . Samuel N. Morris . . . .8,913 . . .0.84%
Turnout . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1,061,563 . 100.00%

Any election that was won by 87 votes (out of nearly a million) should be (and *IS*) closely scrutinized. Biden won the 2020 Presidential election by 7,052,770 votes (out of over 158 million). Even in the closest states, Arizona and Georgia, he won by 10,457 votes and 11,779 votes, respectively, and they've already recounted the fuck out of those ballots.

BTW....remind me: exactly how many people have been charged so far for voter fraud in the November 2020 election?

[eddieq]

BTW....remind me: exactly how many people have been charged so far for voter fraud in the November 2020 election?

Honestly, I think it's 2. Both were people who sent in Trump votes in the name of a dead voter.

[ex-khobar Andy]

Arizona is going to have to replace its voting machines - $$$$$$. I hope they sue those idiots at Cyber Ninjas for the cost of the damage they have done.

And I have never seen any evidence that you can detect the bamboo content of paper by using UV light.

[Burning Petard]

Oh Andy you just don't understand. Of course you can detect all kinds of bad things with UV light. You have not been keeping up with QAnon. Q explains everything.

By the way, the Arizona State Senate, that approved this whole farce, included details in writing that the state would carry the burden of cost for any damaged equipment. Does the secret handshake from QAnon get you out of paying taxes?

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