Nice to have someone his own age to talk to.

[Gob]

Joe Biden revealed the Queen had asked him about his Russian and Chinese counterparts, Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping, during their 45-minute talk over tea at Windsor Castle, in the aftermath of the G7 summit on Sunday.



It was an exceptionally rare, if limited, insight into political discussions involving the British monarch: the contents of her regular weekly audiences with the British prime minister of the day are kept confidential.

But the US president, the most powerful politician in the western world, gave a brief taste of their meeting to White House reporters on the tarmac at Heathrow airport on Sunday evening, before flying out to his next stop, Brussels.

“We had a long talk, she was very generous. I don’t think she’d be insulted, but she reminded me of my mother. In terms of the look of her and just the generosity,” Biden, 78, said of the Queen, 95.

Those who speak to the Queen on other occasions are also not supposed to reveal what she has said to avoid embarrassing her, because, as head of state, the monarch does not publicly comment on political matters.

In 2012, the BBC was forced to apologise after its security correspondent, Frank Gardner, revealed on Radio 4 that the Queen had told him she was aghast that Abu Hamza could not be arrested during the period when he aired vehemently anti-British views as imam of Finsbury Park mosque in north London.

Biden also said he had invited the Queen to the White House, which she first visited in October 1957 on a four-day stay when Dwight Eisenhower was president. That was not her first meeting with a US president: as a princess she met with Harry Truman in 1951.

Biden, accompanied by his wife, Jill, was the 13th holder of the office to have met Elizabeth II. His meeting in the castle in Berkshire came after he inspected a ceremonial guard of honour in the building’s central quadrangle.

No details of their discussion was disclosed by the palace, although a picture was taken of the Queen and her visitors in the castle’s Grand Corridor, featuring a diminutive monarch dressed in pink flanked by somewhat taller visitors.

Earlier, PA Media reported a snippet of overheard conversation, as the official party headed inside to the castle. The Queen said to the president: “You completed your talks.” Biden replied: “Yes we did.”

The president had flown up from Cornwall on the Marine One presidential helicopter, arriving at Windsor in a black Range Rover, where he was greeted by the Queen, who was standing alone, two months after the death of her husband, Prince Philip.

Clearly at ease with each other, Biden then inspected the troops on his own, so preventing a repeat of Donald Trump’s faux pas where the former president walked in front of the Queen on his own visit to Windsor in 2018.

The Queen has met every US president since visiting Truman, with the exception of Lyndon Johnson in the 60s. The first US president to visit Windsor was Ronald Reagan, who rode on horseback with the monarch in 1982.

During the G7 summit, the royal family has taken a particularly active role, with the Queen hosting a reception for Biden and other G7 leaders at the Eden Project in Cornwall, also attended by Prince Charles, and his wife, Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, and Prince William and wife, Kate, the Duchess of Cambridge.

Earlier, the president was 15 minutes late for a 9am mass at the Sacred Heart and St Ia Catholic church as his cavalcade negotiated the twisting streets of St Ives in Cornwall.

Parishioner Ann Buckley: said: “It was an ordinary mass. He didn’t arrive on time. He missed father’s sermon. Father didn’t wait for him. He has another mass in Penzance to get to.”

Her brother, Martin, was disappointed that Boris Johnson had not visited too. “Boris gets married in Westminster Cathedral but doesn’t come here. What a golden opportunity and he didn’t come.”

Father Philip Dyson said he had not been given advance warning that the president and his wife would be joining them for the service and admitted he was slightly nervous while conducting the service.

“I welcomed him to Cornwall and he said he was enjoying his time here and there were many serious matters they were discussing and just hope it’s going to come to fruition.

“I think the G7 has been such a great occasion. The scripture readings were appropriate because it was about creation and climate, and things growing, so it absolutely suited the occasion.”

He added that the scriptures were not selected “by choice”, adding: “It’s just the way it always is. The word of God always fits in.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... sor-castle

[Burning Petard]

Just where did the tradition of various VIPs walking about/among military forces in fancy uniform? What are they looking for? Why should the VIP think this is a great honor? From my experience (I did participate in such a formal event when NATO Hq was in Heidelberg, Germany because the French were at the time having a hissy fit and pulled out of NATO) Nobody participating liked it or thought it was anything beyond an onerous tradition.
The VIP doing the review never stoped to look in the barrel of a rifle to look for a speck of dust or measured the collar brass to be sure it was the exact prescribed position on the lapel. We just stood in the hot sun forever then 'passed in review'

snailgate

[Bicycle Bill]

I always thought it was meant to be a show of respect and honor to the leader by the massed military and not the other way around.

Not to mention that we haven't had a POTUS who would know how to conduct a formal inspection since Ike.
(Well, perhaps JFK or Bush 43, as they actually had military experience as well; just not at so high a level.)

-"BB"-

[liberty]

Just where did the tradition of various VIPs walking about/among military forces in fancy uniform? What are they looking for? Why should the VIP think this is a great honor? From my experience (I did participate in such a formal event when NATO Hq was in Heidelberg, Germany because the French were at the time having a hissy fit and pulled out of NATO) Nobody participating liked it or thought it was anything beyond an onerous tradition.
The VIP doing the review never stoped to look in the barrel of a rifle to look for a speck of dust or measured the collar brass to be sure it was the exact prescribed position on the lapel. We just stood in the hot sun forever then 'passed in review'

snailgate

I did it and never thought it was a big deal. Of course, I was a young man then; I don’t know if I could do now. But even then, we had pussies that complained about it. We had plenty of people who wore the uniform but were not military. One of my military instructors in basic warned us about them, and he was right.

But those are not the people liberals want to get out of the military. They want to kick out those southerners who are not ashamed of their ancestors. It wouldn’t surprise me if the left didn’t institute a loyalty oath that would require white military members to renounce their ancestors.

[ex-khobar Andy]

Just to be clear and I want to make sure I understand you lib: we're talking about ancestors who rebelled against the democratically* elected leadership of the country - i.e., were traitors - and who initiated a civil war which resulted in the deaths of something like 750,000 Americans. That's counting only the military dead, not civilian deaths.

* democratically - i.e., by the standards of the time.

[ex-khobar Andy]

And AFAIK the Oath of Enlistment is:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962)."

I think that pretty much covers it. Did you take that when you joined the military, lib? If yes did your southern buddies cross their fingers? I'm not sure that counts, but maybe.

[liberty]

Just to be clear and I want to make sure I understand you lib: we're talking about ancestors who rebelled against the democratically* elected leadership of the country - i.e., were traitors - and who initiated a civil war which resulted in the deaths of something like 750,000 Americans. That's counting only the military dead, not civilian deaths.

* democratically - i.e., by the standards of the time.

No, they pulled out of the union to form their own democratic republic. The states had voluntarily joined the union, so they felt they could voluntarily withdraw from it. And one can only commit treason against a sovereign. The federal government is not sovereign; the people are. How can the people be traitors to themselves? Their states and the central government authorized their actions. Who authorized Jane Fonda to aid the communist during wartime; was that not treason?

[Scooter]

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.

--- United States Constitution, Article III, Section 3

Confederate = Traitor

Q.E.D.

[liberty]

And AFAIK the Oath of Enlistment is:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962)."

Did you take that when you joined the military, lib?

Yes, I did, and I lived up to it without someone holding a gun to my head, but I wasn't asked to condemn my grandfather.

[Joe Guy]

Who authorized Jane Fonda to aid the communist during wartime; was that not treason?

I'm a little fuzzy on my Jane Fonda history. What treasonous act did she commit?

[liberty]

Who authorized Jane Fonda to aid the communist during wartime; was that not treason?

I'm a little fuzzy on my Jane Fonda history. What treasonous act did she commit?

She made propaganda for the enemy.

[Bicycle Bill]

Who authorized Jane Fonda to aid the communist during wartime; was that not treason?

I'm a little fuzzy on my Jane Fonda history. What treasonous act did she commit?

She made propaganda for the enemy.

If being photographed sitting at the controls of an anti-aircraft cannon is propaganda and therefore makes one a traitor, then every stateside American college student who dared to utter a word in the 1960s - early 1970s against the US involvement in what was essentially a Vietnamese civil war was also providing "aid and comfort to the enemy" and therefore ipso facto a traitor.  So go ahead, lib, round them all up and make 'em face the music too.  Maybe you could start with this young lady.


And just for the record ... the LAST time the US formally declared war on anyone was in 1941, when CONGRESS declared war against Japan (on Dec 8 1941) in response to the Pearl Harbor attack and Roosevelt's "Day of Infamy" speech, followed three days later by a similar declaration of war, again by CONGRESS, against Germany and the Axis powers following Hitler's declaration of war against the United States.  Anything since then — Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Afghanistan, even Desert Shield/Desert Storm — have most emphatically NOT been a war, and people speaking or acting out against them are merely, to echo your own mindset and to recycle a phrase I'm sure you've used here yourself on more than one occasion, "patriots exercising their First Amendment rights".

-"BB"-

[MajGenl.Meade]

And one can only commit treason against a sovereign. The federal government is not sovereign; the people are.

So, no one can commit treason against the United States of America?

Hamilton and Madison would be surprised that they wasted all those words justifying Article III, Section 3: Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

Jane's happy though because you have just cleared her of treason against her country that your fevered imagination produced.

But on the trail of facts . . . When Lee graduated and was commissioned a Brevet Lieutenant in the United States Army in 1829, he took the Officer’s Oath: “I do solemnly swear that I will bear true allegiance to the United States of America, and that I will serve them honestly and faithfully against all their enemies or opposers whatsoever, and observe and obey the orders of the President of the United States and the officers over me according to the rules and articles for the Armies of the United States.”

Nothing in there about "people". Allegiance to whom? "The United States of America". And he took up the sword against . . . "The United States of America".

Score:
Jane 0 dead Americans
Lee 700,000+ dead Americans (people)

And by all means justify your self-inflicted drivel that "liberals" (name them) want to "kick out those southerners who are not ashamed of their ancestors" (identify these people too by name).

It wouldn’t surprise me if you are once again making up nonsense

[Big RR]

Of course, Meade, Lee did publicly resign his commission before he took any arms against the armies that were invading his state (or country). , so his oath is really not applicable. Whether he committed treason against the USA is a different question which could be debated, preferably in another thread.

[liberty]

And by all means justify your self-inflicted drivel that "liberals" (name them) want to "kick out those southerners who are not ashamed of their ancestors" (identify these people too by name).

Read again what I said seems it should be clear enough for someone with your superior intelligence. “It wouldn’t surprise me if the left didn’t institute a loyalty oath that would require white military members to renounce their ancestors.” So you are either a liar, your analytical skills are not what they should be, or you have some other agenda. As I said, I wouldn’t be surprised me people who consider Christopher Columbus a fascist are capable of anything. They would disenfranchise white Southerners if they had the power to do so. I didn’t mention any names, but Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her ilk would do it if they could. I know that Shit Head is a foreigner, but this country has millions of other hate-filled communists/fascists looking for revenge.

[Big RR]

It wouldn’t surprise me if the left didn’t institute a loyalty oath that would require white military members to renounce their ancestors.”

IT would surprise me; there was no such oath when I was in the military, and I have never even heard of one.

I wouldn’t be surprised me people who consider Christopher Columbus a fascist are capable of anything

Not sure who they are, unless you mean those colonists who suffered under his reign as governor of Hispanola, a reign which was ended when he was arrested and brought to Spain in chains, where he was stripped of the governorship. I would imagine they thought of him as a fascist (or whatever they called a fascist in those days; but he definitely was a brutal dictator) but I do not know if they would be "capable of anything".

[MajGenl.Meade]

Of course, Meade, Lee did publicly resign his commission before he took any arms against the armies that were invading his state (or country). , so his oath is really not applicable. Whether he committed treason against the USA is a different question which could be debated, preferably in another thread.

and of course I am well aware of that. The question is, having sworn an oath, does it mean a hill of beans to say later "Well I didn't mean it". Or perhaps, "Well I decided that oath doesn't count any more"? Serious people can disagree.

[MajGenl.Meade]

And by all means justify your self-inflicted drivel that "liberals" (name them) want to "kick out those southerners who are not ashamed of their ancestors" (identify these people too by name.

Read again what I said seems it should be clear enough for someone with your superior intelligence. “It wouldn’t surprise me if the left didn’t institute a loyalty oath that would require white military members to renounce their ancestors.” So you are either a liar, your analytical skills are not what they should be, or you have some other agenda. As I said, I wouldn’t be surprised me people who consider Christopher Columbus a fascist are capable of anything. They would disenfranchise white Southerners if they had the power to do so. I didn’t mention any names, but Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her ilk would do it if they could. I know that Shit Head is a foreigner, but this country has millions of other hate-filled communists/fascists looking for revenge.

I asked nothing about loyalty oaths. Answer the damn question. Name the liberals who want to YOUR WORDS "kick out" the southerners. And second, name the southerners who are in this danger

Are you capable of providing any evidence at all?

[liberty]

And by all means justify your self-inflicted drivel that "liberals" (name them) want to "kick out those southerners who are not ashamed of their ancestors" (identify these people too by name.

Read again what I said seems it should be clear enough for someone with your superior intelligence. “It wouldn’t surprise me if the left didn’t institute a loyalty oath that would require white military members to renounce their ancestors.” So you are either a liar, your analytical skills are not what they should be, or you have some other agenda. As I said, I wouldn’t be surprised me people who consider Christopher Columbus a fascist are capable of anything. They would disenfranchise white Southerners if they had the power to do so. I didn’t mention any names, but Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her ilk would do it if they could. I know that Shit Head is a foreigner, but this country has millions of other hate-filled communists/fascists looking for revenge.

I asked nothing about loyalty oaths. Answer the damn question. Name the liberals who want to YOUR WORDS "kick out" the southerners. And second, name the southerners who are in this danger

Can’t you recognize an opinion?
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and her ilk are the prime suspects, and you would don’t lie and say you wouldn’t do it.
Just because these leftists won’t come out say it will not stop me from saying it.
Don’t have a stroke, you old fart.

Are you capable of providing any evidence at all?

Who would the leftists punish for the action of their confederate ancestors? That would be any white southerner who is not ashamed of his heritage and can’t prove his innocence. The left has a different idea of justice. To them, certain people are guilty until they prove themselves innocent.

[Scooter]

I know that S[cooter] is a foreigner

I might enjoy the fact that I live rent-free in the village idiot's brain, but it's quite boring because there is absolutely nothing going on in there that might help me pass the time.