A normal man does not shot a six-year-old child

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Sure Lib, or maybe the kid stole his wife, or his car, or a million dollars from him? Hell, the media didn't report that either.

and even then, it's no excuse for shooting a 6 year old.

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Joe Guy wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 4:37 am
Joe Guy wrote:
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I'm surprised liberty hasn't mentioned that the 6 yr old is black. Not that he would have any reason to bring anything more about race into the discussion or anything.
liberty wrote:
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The guy is east Asian.
Hot-headed motherfucker who shouldn't ever be allowed to breathe free air again, in my opinion.

And I'd say that if he was white, black, asian, hispanic, native american, martian, christian, jewish, buddhist, muslim, or any other race/gender/ethnicity/religion I've overlooked.
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Big RR wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:18 pm
Yep. $10,000 bail makes little sense, especially because he could put up $1000 and get out.
Eh? If bail is set at $10,000 how could $100 get him out?
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The U.S. uses bail bondsmen, who will put up the full amount of the bail in exchange for a non-refundable fee of 10% paid to them by the accused. They then have pretty sweeping powers to arrest and detain anyone who skips bail, so that they can present them for trial and get their surety back.
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As the linked story stated, THIS TIME the $100,000 bail is a cash bail. He won't be getting a bail bondsman to put up the total amount. He is where he belongs until he is tried and sent to prison.
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Scooter wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:29 am
The U.S. uses bail bondsmen, who will put up the full amount of the bail in exchange for a non-refundable fee of 10% paid to them by the accused. They then have pretty sweeping powers to arrest and detain anyone who skips bail, so that they can present them for trial and get their surety back.
Thanks mate, I didn't know this. Pretty screwy system...
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The UK system does not use bondsmen. The most notorious recent bail jumper was Julian Assange, who was bailed pending extradition to Sweden to face sex abuse charges. His supporters put up £240,000 to guarantee that he would show up and lost the lot when he decided to spend time at the Ecuadorean embassy in London. After a few years of this the Ecuadoreans got fed up with him and allowed Scotland Yard to pick him up. He spent a year in jail for jumping bail.

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Scooter wrote:
Sat Jun 19, 2021 11:29 am
The U.S. uses bail bondsmen, who will put up the full amount of the bail in exchange for a non-refundable fee of 10% paid to them by the accused. They then have pretty sweeping powers to arrest and detain anyone who skips bail, so that they can present them for trial and get their surety back.
Actually, it's a bit different; in many jurisdictions the court could impose a 10% bond where the 10% is deposited with the court. The reason for this is that the bail bondsman usually charges a fee of 10% of the total bond; depositing the 10% with the court imposes no fee if the person shows up for trial and the total amount is refunded. Not all jurisdictions do this, and in many it does not apply to all crimes or in all circumstances.

You'll see this sometimes in US crime procedural TV shows, where the court will say "bail is $100,000, cash or bond", meaning the $100,00 most be deposited with the court in cash or by a bondsman's guarantee, no option of 10%.

TThat may be what happened here, if he has to post the entire $100,000, although one account I read said he could get out by posting $10,000.

FWIW, many jurisdictions are now doing away with bail, especially for lower level crimes.

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Any time I ever got arrested I always got out on a signature bond... basically, I signed a piece of paper saying that I promised I'd show up for trial and wouldn't run off anywhere in the meantime.

Of course, I never shot anybody, either.
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Teh procedurals call that "ROR", released on your own recognizance. Not sure if that's the usual term or not.

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I am not excusing anything; I want to know the whole story. The list of possibilities is extensive, but if there is more to the story, it most likely has something to do with the father or mother, and the kid was just the point at which the guy snapped. I remind you, I am just speculating as requested. Doesn’t this story seem suspiciously short?

Looking at the kid, I wonder if the mother is Vietnamese or something, and maybe the guy feels that those black men are stealing their women. You know what I am talking about the same way some black men feel when they see a white boy dating a black girl.
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