BLM, murder communist

[liberty]

BLM, murder communist

AOC, Omar silent after Black Lives Matter voices support for Cuban regime
Peter Hasson 9 hrs ago


Democratic Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Cori Bush of Missouri have yet to weigh in on Black Lives Matter declaring its support for Cuba's communist regime, even though the congresswomen have been vocal BLM supporters in the past.

Black Lives Matter sparked a backlash late Wednesday after posting a statement that blasted the U.S. embargo and praised Cuba's government.

ILHAN OMAR SAYS AMERICA, LIKE HAMAS AND THE TALIBAN, HAS COMMITTED ‘UNTHINKABLE ATROCITIES’
"The people of Cuba are being punished by the U.S. government because the country has maintained its commitment to sovereignty and self-determination," the statement said. "United States leaders have tried to crush this Revolution for decades."
The statement also credited Cuba's government for "protecting Black revolutionaries like Assata Shakur," a convicted cop-killer who fled to Cuba after escaping from prison in 1979. BLM co-founder Patrisse Cullors has repeatedly praised Shakur in the past.
Ocasio-Cortez and Omar are vocal supporters of BLM, while Bush was a BLM activist before joining Congress.

[liberty]

What do you think has happened to the leaders or highly visible Cuban protesters. My guess is they are already serving the communist revolution as fertilizer. Yes, I think they have already been through a wood chipper and are rotting in the soil of some Cuban farm. There was a time when one didn’t have to guess as much about the actions of murdering communists; however, in recent times, they have become more cautious about their murders. A good rule of thumb to remember when someone opposed to a communist regime disappears is that they were murdered.

And there are still those in this country that approves of these killing as just punishment for reactionaries. If you are a communist, you are a criminal, yes criminal, because you are as guilty of murder as the communist that pulled the trigger in terms of ethics. The guilty include BLM and the member of the squad, and plenty of other Democrat party members. BLM and the squad members are communists with blood on their hands or do you approve of murdering reactionaries?

[Scooter]

[liberty]

I see no real difference between communist and Nazis; they are all thugs, but liberals do. Apparently, liberals like AOC don’t care how many people communist murder. The only real difference between communists and Nazis is that Nazis are no longer a threat to freedom, but communists are. There are no longer any actual Nazis, but there is plenty of communists around. How would you feel if the Cuban government was Nazi instead of communist?


"In addition to the 73,000 victims of communism in Cuba estimated by the Museum of Communism, Political Science Prof. R.J. Rummel (d. 3/2/2014) of the University of Hawaii, a specialist in genocide, provided a mid-range estimate of the number of victims as 73,000, for the years 1959 to 1987."

[Bicycle Bill]

There are no longer any actual Nazis, but there is plenty of communists around

Just what color is the sky in your world?


Just because they don't call themselves 'Nazis' doesn't mean they aren't there.  To paraphrase Shakespeare,

"What’s in a name?  That which we call shit
By any other name would smell as foul... "

-"BB"-

[MajGenl.Meade]

I see no real difference between communist and Nazis

Here you go, lib.

Communist:



Nazis:


Now do you have it sorted?

[Scooter]

I wonder if anyone has ever tried to tally up all the victims of capitalism.

We can start with all of those who died in slavery in the service of capitalist economies.

Then all those who died in workplaces of all kinds - mines, farms, factories, construction sites, etc. - due to accident or disease.

Plus all who have died for lack of health care, because providing it to everyone who needed it would be "socialism".

How many tens or hundreds of millions would that add up to?

73,000 would be a speck of dirt by comparison.

[BoSoxGal]

I wonder if anyone has ever tried to tally up all the victims of capitalism.

Capitalism is on a fast track to making a victim of the entire human species, as it catapults us fast as it can toward climate induced extinction.

[Econoline]

WOO-HOO!!! Capitalism FTW!

Yippee-ki-yay, motherfucker!

[liberty]

I wonder if anyone has ever tried to tally up all the victims of capitalism.

Capitalism is on a fast track to making a victim of the entire human species, as it catapults us fast as it can toward climate induced extinction.

Then you agree that third world countries should not be allowed to develop high consuming societies for the world's good? The earth can't stand more widespread air conditioning and private auto usage. They have not become accustomed to the way of life, so they shouldn't start.

[Big RR]

So you believe conspicuous consumption is the equivalent of capitalism? I think it is something that is observed in many cpaitalist socieities, but is not capitalism per se.

[Scooter]

Electricity for both air conditioning and to power cars can be produced from non-carbon sources. The village idiot's lack of awareness in how developing economies can grow is predictable.

[BoSoxGal]

I agree with liberty’s equating capitalism with high consumption because quite simply that IS the modality that has manifested in the USA and the rest of the western world, spilling over into all the developing countries where people quite understandably see the standard of living we enjoy here and envy it. Who wouldn’t envy all the shiny things? All the abundance? The luxury to be wasteful? The emphasis on personal fulfillment? Everything about late stage capitalism plays to humankind’s basest instincts and is very hard to resist, for even the most moral among us.

I do not agree that some people should be ‘allowed’ to live that way and others not ‘allowed’ to attain the same standard of living. I believe we should all have invested in maximizing human fulfillment while minimizing human pain and if we had done things very differently we might have made a world that was really beautiful and sustainable.

But we didn’t, and this world is doomed. Whatever our opinions of it, none of that matters anymore. If there is an actual climate scientist in your circle of existence, have a conversation with them and ask them what they think the future holds. Ask them to be straight with you.

Mainstream media sources are still spending very little time on the climate crisis proportional to all the other stories in the news, because follow the money. But if the world was structured on what is really most important, the climate crisis would be talked about all day long like the Surfside condo collapse was for those first two weeks. Because the climate is devolving faster than the climate scientists predicted in their worst case models - the firenados that last for months, the heat domes that kill billions of animals and hundreds or thousands of people over just days, the catastrophic floods that wipe out thousands year old villages, etc. blah blah blah . . .

Methane has been spiking for months, the most recent reports on global levels are setting off alarms in the scientific community. A warming ocean and thawing permafrost allows the release of massive quantities of methane stored in the sea bed and on the land masses as well. Methane makes CO2 look like a choirboy.

The Amazon rainforest is now releasing more CO2 than it is removing from the atmosphere.

Every year from here on out will be more and more and more environmental horror. Mass migration, starvation, conflicts and uprisings as the most precious natural resources become scarce. Society has already begun breaking down. I believe a near term extinction of the species is very likely - before the environment becomes so bad as to kill us off, the disruption in society will lead to destabilizing and destruction of nuclear power stations and weapons caches and the result will be death of the vast majority of the species - and most of the other species of earthlings.

I believe the pandemic was an opportunity for us all to slow down enough to see some truths about how badly dysfunctional our species’s relationship to the earth has become. Far too many people were distracted by other truths - many of them also compelling - and a great many lies, too. And the powers who can profit from the status quo keep making it their mission to deflect and squelch the message.

But honestly that’s alright because it’s too late. It’s been too late for many years, I think. I think if you talk to your friends who are climate scientists - I went to school myself with a few back in the day, and they certainly hold this opinion - and you ask them to be honest, they’ll tell you your grandchildren haven’t much to look forward to.

Solastalgia is my mindset these days. Solastalgia and Hiraeth.

[liberty]

Lets concentrate on one region of the third world and one sector of their economy. There is no reason that the African farms have to be industrialized. An agricultural society can be a well-fed and happy people. Instead of a tractors for Africa program, mules for Africa would make more sense. Tractors require expensive fuel, which environmentalists want to make more expensive were as mules eat grass. Grass, the African farmer, can grow himself. Tractors are costly to buy and maintain. African governments could subsidize the purchase and maintenance of tractors, but African governments have not been known for their reliability in the past. In my opinion, the more independent and self-reliant the farmer is, the better. And instead of industrialized agriculture like the US that requires very few workers, a system based on draft animals would provide more jobs for people. People working on environmentally friendly farms instead of in polluting factories would produce less CO2.

[liberty]

I see no real difference between communist and Nazis

Here you go, lib.

Communist:



Nazis:


Now do you have it sorted?

Communism is a form of slavery where the state owns the people. Anyone who supports communism supports slavery. Are you a supporter of slavery Meade? For some sweet bed time reading check-out the history of the great leap forward in communist China. Please pay special attention to the peasant slaves' terror of the communist party and how they melted down and destroyed the farm tools they needed to make a living to make the great leader happy.

[Big RR]

There are and have always been communist societies which are not as you have suggested--from the kibbutzes in Israel to any number of settlements (such as communes), religious or otherwise, where resources, work, and rewards are shared equally by all (and anyone can choose to leave when they want). Sure, communism has been perverted by corrupt leaders--but then so has capitalism, and we need only look at a number of societies which are capitalist but give the reward only to a few, with the rest being forced to toil for many hours to make a barely living wage. Communist societies can be democratic (small d), and capitalist societies can be authoritarian and in brutal control of the people.

[liberty]

There are and have always been communist societies which are not as you have suggested--from the kibbutzes in Israel to any number of settlements (such as communes), religious or otherwise, where resources, work, and rewards are shared equally by all (and anyone can choose to leave when they want).

Do you remember Jim Jones' commune?

“Jones founded the organization that would become the Peoples Temple in Indianapolis, in 1955. Jones distinguished himself with his civil rights activism, founding the Temple as a fully integrated congregation. In 1965, he moved the Temple to California, where the group established its headquarters in San Francisco and became heavily involved in left-wing politics through the 1970s.”

[Econoline]

The kibbutzim in Israel were/are explicitly leftwing/socialist, yet they never imprisoned or murdered their members. Neither did The Farm (in Tennessee) or Twin Oaks (in Virginia), both of which have been around since the 1960s. (are there any others left over from that era?) And of course there are a number of abbeys and monasteries which are effectively communes. The Peoples Temple/Jonestown is very much the odd man out, and that's because Jim Jones himself was (or turned into) an odd madman out.

[Scooter]

There are also Radical Faerie sanctuaries around the world that operate as communes for LGBTQ folks and espouse a clearly left-wing philosophy on sexuality, environment, economics, etc.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Communism is a form of slavery where the state owns the people. Anyone who supports communism supports slavery. Are you a supporter of slavery Meade? For some sweet bed time reading check-out the history of the great leap forward in communist China. Please pay special attention to the peasant slaves' terror of the communist party and how they melted down and destroyed the farm tools they needed to make a living to make the great leader happy.

Well I'm glad that you have at last conceded that Trump supporters are Nazis - and there's no difference between them and communists you say?