A Bit of a Dilemma

[Joe Guy]

and a hate crime.

[Big RR]

Maybe, maybe not (depending on how the jokes went), but I think we are (especially Americans) hung up too much on nudity. I do know one of my daughters went to a nude beach in the Caribbean a few times--it's not that big a deal. which is another reason why I didn't think it was something he should be bothered to tell her dad about.

Maybe it's just my hippy college days--we played mixed strip poker and went skinny dipping a few times in the nearby lake; guys and girls, and I don't recall it going further than that (although I don't remember a lot of those times, to be fair). Not that it couldn't have for some, but sex was not the reason behind it.

[TPFKA@W]

Are you sure this wasn't an "asking for a friend" post?

[Big RR]

Nah, not that.

[Joe Guy]

I have a friend that told me that if your friend took any pictures, send them to him and he will destroy them.
As Gob wrote, "Before the usual humour-free denizens chip in, this is 'a joke'."

[Big RR]

Just don't use the mail?

[TPFKA@W]

Have the girl down below pony-express it to him.

[Scooter]

So now the "joke" has expanded into a conspiracy to produce and distribute child pornography.

[ex-khobar Andy]

There was a bit of a giveaway in this part of BigRR's initial post:

His neighbor has a young (15 years old) daughter who sunbathes in the nude in her backyard, when no one else is at home, sometimes alone, sometimes with (female) friends.

Two 'sometimes' = at least four times. He also knows it's when her parents are out. It does not sound like an accidental glimpse to me which puts him squarely in the creep category.

[Joe Guy]

So now the "joke" has expanded into a conspiracy to produce and distribute child pornography.

We need someone here to translate things for the humor impaired...

[Scooter]

I get that it's what you consider to be a "joke". I'm just curious how far the "joke" would go past the several sexual felonies involving minors that have already been contemplated.

Even "comedy" usually has a third rail.

[Big RR]

Scooter--other than perhaps child pornography (if photos) are taken, what "sexual felonies involving minors" are contemplated? I am unaware of any. I concede the laws of Canada may be different, but I see nothing illegal in looking out one's window at whatever is there. If he used special equipment such as binoculars or some night vision goggles to peer into the house it migh be actionable, but I do not see anywhere that this would be a misdemeanor, let alone a felony. Perhaps the laws of Canada are different?

Andy--"Two 'sometimes' = at least four times. He also knows it's when her parents are out. It does not sound like an accidental glimpse to me which puts him squarely in the creep category."

Perhaps; I'm fairly certain he has looked more than once. I'm not defending i (it is a bit creepy at the very least), but I have no reason to believe it goes anywhere beyond the occasional glance (and, as I said, I suggested he should stay away from that window).

[liberty]

Recently, a friend (who lives nearby) contacted me for advice, and I figured I'd thro it out to all of you to see what you think. His neighbor has a young (15 years old) daughter who sunbathes in the nude in her backyard, when no one else is at home, sometimes alone, sometimes with (female) friends. The backyard is surrounded by a solid 7 - 8 foot fence so no one can see in, but he can see from an upstairs window (the way the properties are arranged, it appears he is the only one who can see her). He gets along OK with her father (but is hardly a friend) and says he thinks he should tell him know. I cautioned against it as it is likely her dad could get angry and not believe him (He suggested he could take a few pictures, but I told him that could open him to a charge of child pornography), and the situation could get very animated. He said he could also speak to her, but I cautioned against that because she may complain to her father that he is always spying on her and that he made up the nude allegation. His wife gets along better with the mother and could talk to her, but I suggested he think long and hard before she did that as it could likely go very badly.

We discussed his sending an anonymous letter, but given the way the houses are arranged it would be pretty clear who sent it, so I suggested not to.

He also asked if he should tell the police, but my research indicated that she is likely doing nothing illegal as she is on her own property in a fenced yard, so nothing could likely be done, and the cops may brand him a pervert for bringing it up.

Personally, I think the best thing to do is to ignore it and stay away from that window unless he has to go near it. It should be over in a month or 6 weeks, and next year may not even start up again.

Does anyone disagree or have any other ways to handle it?

Big, does your friend have any teenage sons or grandsons that might look out of those windows? If he does, he might consider moving or having the offending windows removed. It might not be a bad idea to move anyway. If he can see her backyard, she can see his windows. It might be a blackmail scam of some type. I might be a little suspicious, but I don’t think it is a good idea to live next door to a weirdo.

[Big RR]

No sons.

As for living "next store to a weirdo", I don't know her or her family, but I do know that many people like to sun bahe in the nude and get no tan lines. It doesn't seem that weird to me. A blackmail setup? Perhaps, but that seems more like something you might see in a Lifetime movie than in real life

[Joe Guy]

Big, does your friend have any teenage sons or grandsons that might look out of those windows? If he does, he might consider moving or having the offending windows removed. It might not be a bad idea to move anyway. If he can see her backyard, she can see his windows. It might be a blackmail scam of some type. I might be a little suspicious, but I don’t think it is a good idea to live next door to a weirdo.

Yeah, that's it. Remove the offending windows or sell the house and move somewhere else. Or maybe it might be cheaper to poke his own eyes out. At the very least he should wear a face mask over his eyes whenever he's near the window.

[Gob]

Yes, because I know that my friends would be having "a joke"

Sure, I believe that.

Now pee on my other leg and tell me it's raining.

Ok, do you know my friends? No.

Have you raised a young girl, through adolescence and puberty? No.

Now, as you said;

I think there should be a new rule - unless you have won as many Olympic medals as the athlete in question, you don't get to have an opinion about their decision to pull out of competition.

Maybe when you've raised a young lady, as I have, ( to become a VERY intelligent, successful, but most of all loved and loving person,) until then you should keep quiet, huh?

You're becoming so self righteous in your virtue signaling these days it's become your trademark.

[Scooter]

Did I offer any opinion on how you raised your daughter? Because I'm not seeing those words anywhere.

[Gob]

YOu stated;

Dear god, it must be a great life being a humour vacuum.

Ok, fine, but...

...you overhear your mates at the pub having this conversation...

...then you realize they are talking about your daughter.

Are you still laughing?

Is not the way I handle that situation about the way I raise her?

And until you have a daughter, why comment about other people's?

[Scooter]

No, it has nothing to do with your how you relate to or interact with your daughter. It was about how you would react to others exhibiting the "humour" you are engaging in here.

And I never made any comment about your or anyone else's daughter, because unlike what has been going on in this thread, I don't find sexual banter about minor children to be particularly humorous.

[Gob]

No, it has nothing to do with your how you relate to or interact with your daughter. It was about how you would react to others exhibiting the "humour" you are engaging in here.

But obviously it would relate, to and reflect on, how I raise her. My tolerance and understanding of friends banter with regard to her activities is all part of raising her.

And I never made any comment about your or anyone else's daughter, because unlike what has been going on in this thread, I don't find sexual banter about minor children to be particularly humorous.

But here you are, criticising us, people who may have daughters, and who may have raised children, or may still have kids, as you are a true believer.