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I wasn't trying to imply that the vaccines work as a treatment; just comparing the wealth of evidence that has been used to approve the vaccines but which is ignored by many, while seemingly accepting zero evidence for the usefulness of ivermectin as a treatment.

I suppose if the Ohio patient is at death's door and has tried the approved/accepted treatments (generally dexamethazone and remdesivir or variants thereof) then there is no harm clutching at the straw of an unproven drug. I hope it works for him.

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“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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Joe Rogan, who apparently is some sort of podcast star, has acquired COVID and has, according to the Guardian, "thrown the kitchen sink" at his infection. Not literally of course AFAIK (but time will tell: CDC should probably ask Lowes and Home Depot to report sales of kitchen sinks so we can determine if there is an otherwise unexplained spike) and his medication regime does include ivermectin.

Naturally I hope he gets better: but if he does I expect him to applaud the ivermectin for his recovery and the net result will be that even more idiots will self medicate from Tractor Supply.

Interesting piece here (from July) pointing out how a major study which apparently justified the use of ivermectin was falsified and retracted from publication. Of course once something is out there and running rampant on the Intertubes, it cannot be retrieved and nullified.

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Being double-jabbed almost halves the likelihood of long Covid in adults who get coronavirus, a new study has suggested.

Researchers at King's College London also said that being admitted to hospital with the virus was 73 per cent less likely, and the chances of severe symptoms were reduced by almost a third (31 per cent) in the fully vaccinated.

The team analysed data from more than two million people logging their symptoms, tests and vaccine status on the UK Zoe Covid Symptom Study app between December 8 2020 and July 4 this year.


Some 6,030 app users reported testing positive for Covid-19 at least 14 days after their first vaccination but before their second, while 2,370 reported testing positive at least seven days after their second dose.

The research, published in the Lancet, said: 'We found that the odds of having symptoms for 28 days or more after post-vaccination infection were approximately halved by having two vaccine doses.

'This result suggests that the risk of long Covid is reduced in individuals who have received double vaccination, when additionally considering the already documented reduced risk of infection overall.'

WHAT ARE THE SYMPTOMS OF LONG COVID?
Most coronavirus patients will recover within a fortnight, suffering a fever, cough and losing their sense of smell or taste for several days.

However, evidence is beginning to show that the tell-tale symptoms of the virus can persist for weeks on end in 'long haulers' — the term for patients plagued by lasting complications.

Data from the Covid Symptom Study app, by King's College London and health company Zoe, suggests one in ten people may still have symptoms after three weeks, and some may suffer for months.

It added: 'Almost all individual symptoms of Covid-19 were less common in vaccinated versus unvaccinated participants, and more people in the vaccinated than in the unvaccinated groups were completely asymptomatic.'

The research team said their data suggested that frail, older adults and people living in more deprived areas were still at an increased risk but that the effects of the virus appeared to be less severe in those who are vaccinated.

They said their findings were relevant 'for health policies post-vaccination, and highlight the need to balance personal protective measures in those at risk of post-vaccination infection with the adverse effects from ongoing social restrictions'.
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:lol:
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September 2, 2021

Oh My Fucking God, Get the Fucking Vaccine Already, You Fucking Fucks

by Wendy Molyneux

Hi, if you are reading this essay then congratulations, you are still alive. And if you are alive, then you have either gotten the COVID-19 vaccine, or you still have the opportunity to get the vaccine against COVID-19. And holy fuck, if you aren’t fucking vaccinated against COVID-19, then you need to get fucking vaccinated right now. I mean, what the fuck? Fuck you. Get vaccinated. Fuck.

The fucking vaccine will not make you magnetic. Are you fucking kidding me? It just fucking won’t. That’s not even a fucking thing, and that lady who tried to pretend the vaccine made her fucking magnetic looked like a real fucking fuckwad and a fucking idiot, so get fucking vaccinated. Jesus. Fuck.
The hardcover edition of The Every will be available in a dizzying and entirely randomized array of cover variations, and exclusively through independent bookstores and here at McSweeney's.

The vaccine also doesn’t have a fucking 5G chip in it. What the fuck do you think a fucking 5G chip is, fucknuts? You think it’s like some invisible nanotechnology they can suspend in a liquid and then just put in your fucking blood and then it what, exactly? Fucking floats around in your body going on Instagram and telling the government you went to the grocery store? No one fucking cares where you go, you absolute fucking fuck-barf. Fuck off with that. Fuck.

Oh, you’re afraid of fucking side effects? Fuck you. You know what has fucking side effects? Fucking aspirin, fucking Tylenol. You could be fucking allergic to pineapple, you fucking fuckwit. Everything has side effects. You’re being a big fucking baby with a huge diaper full of fucking diarrhea, complaining about maybe feeling slightly tired for a day or two while your asymptomatic COVID case you get and pass to some innocent fucking kid could wind up killing them or someone else. Fuck you, you fucking selfish fucking shit-banana, you unredeemable ass-caterpillar, you fucking fuck-knob with two fucks for eyes and a literal poop where your heart should be. You want a two-month-old to wind up on a fucking ventilator instead of you, a fucking adult, getting a fucking sore arm for a day? What are you, a pitcher for the Yankees? A fucking concert pianist? An arm model? Get the fuck out of here! Fuck you. Get vaccinated. Fuck. Fuck you!

You think vaccines don’t fucking work? Oh, fuck off into the trash, you attention-seeking fuckworm-faced shitbutt. This isn’t even a point worth discussing, you fuck-o-rama fuck-stival of ignorance. Vaccines got rid of smallpox and polio and all the other disgusting diseases that used to kill off little fucks like you en masse. Your relatives got fucking vaccinated and let you live, and now here you are signing up to be killed by a fucking disease against which there is a ninety-nine-percent effective vaccine. You fucking moron. Go in the fucking ocean and fuck a piranha. Fuck. Fuck that. Fuck you. Get vaccinated.

Oh, you say you have a genuine allergy or medical condition that prevents you from receiving a fucking vaccine? That’s fine. I’m clearly not talking to you. I fucking love you. Fuck.
Behold our most ambitious issue to date, co-produced with Radiotopia from PRX.

Look, if you have been forwarded this essay from a friend or loved one, then there are two possibilities. Either you are a normal, regular, sensible fucking person like me who got fucking vaccinated at the first possible moment, and this essay channels all your fucking rage and sadness and is therefore cathartic OR, and I really hope this isn’t the fucking case, you AREN’T fucking vaccinated, and someone sent it to you because you fucking fucking fuck, you need to get fucking vaccinated. And rather than being fucking offended that someone is trying yet again to get you to take the fucking vaccine, you should understand that someone fucking loves you enough to try one last motherfucking time to get you to take the fucking vaccine before you fuck off to heaven, or hell, or some in-between place that’s just like a fucking mall or something where everything is free, including and especially the soft pretzels. So, congratulations! There is ONE person remaining in your life who wants to fucking save you from drowning in your own fucking lungs, you fucking fuckshit fuckdick, so for god’s sake, get your fucking ass out of your chair, go to the fucking pharmacy, and get a fucking vaccine, you absolute conscienceless fucking fuck fuck fuck. Get it. Get the fucking vaccine. Fuck you. Fuck fuck fuck. Fuck. Fuck you. Fuck!
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Well *I* loved that! But you knew I would. :mrgreen:

(The expletive laden rant would flow better if you edited out the advertisements, however. That happens to me too when I use reader view and select all to C/P an article. FUCK.)
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I'm genuinely curious. I see nothing but a quote of the text of the post and the link. And if you click the link, McSweeny's is ad free. So I don't understand why you are seeing ads.

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Sue U wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:26 pm
September 2, 2021

Oh My Fucking God, Get the Fucking Vaccine Already, You Fucking Fucks

by Wendy Molyneux

Hi, if you are reading this essay then congratulations, you are still alive. And if you are alive, then you have either gotten the COVID-19 vaccine, or you still have the opportunity to get the vaccine against COVID-19. And holy fuck, if you aren’t fucking vaccinated against COVID-19, then you need to get fucking vaccinated right now. I mean, what the fuck? Fuck you. Get vaccinated. Fuck.

The fucking vaccine will not make you magnetic. Are you fucking kidding me? It just fucking won’t. That’s not even a fucking thing, and that lady who tried to pretend the vaccine made her fucking magnetic looked like a real fucking fuckwad and a fucking idiot, so get fucking vaccinated. Jesus. Fuck.
The hardcover edition of The Every will be available in a dizzying and entirely randomized array of cover variations, and exclusively through independent bookstores and here at McSweeney's.

The vaccine also doesn’t have a fucking 5G chip in it. What the fuck do you think a fucking 5G chip is, fucknuts? You think it’s like some invisible nanotechnology they can suspend in a liquid and then just put in your fucking blood and then it what, exactly? Fucking floats around in your body going on Instagram and telling the government you went to the grocery store? No one fucking cares where you go, you absolute fucking fuck-barf. Fuck off with that. Fuck.

Oh, you’re afraid of fucking side effects? Fuck you. You know what has fucking side effects? Fucking aspirin, fucking Tylenol. You could be fucking allergic to pineapple, you fucking fuckwit. Everything has side effects. You’re being a big fucking baby with a huge diaper full of fucking diarrhea, complaining about maybe feeling slightly tired for a day or two while your asymptomatic COVID case you get and pass to some innocent fucking kid could wind up killing them or someone else. Fuck you, you fucking selfish fucking shit-banana, you unredeemable ass-caterpillar, you fucking fuck-knob with two fucks for eyes and a literal poop where your heart should be. You want a two-month-old to wind up on a fucking ventilator instead of you, a fucking adult, getting a fucking sore arm for a day? What are you, a pitcher for the Yankees? A fucking concert pianist? An arm model? Get the fuck out of here! Fuck you. Get vaccinated. Fuck. Fuck you!

You think vaccines don’t fucking work? Oh, fuck off into the trash, you attention-seeking fuckworm-faced shitbutt. This isn’t even a point worth discussing, you fuck-o-rama fuck-stival of ignorance. Vaccines got rid of smallpox and polio and all the other disgusting diseases that used to kill off little fucks like you en masse. Your relatives got fucking vaccinated and let you live, and now here you are signing up to be killed by a fucking disease against which there is a ninety-nine-percent effective vaccine. You fucking moron. Go in the fucking ocean and fuck a piranha. Fuck. Fuck that. Fuck you. Get vaccinated.

Oh, you say you have a genuine allergy or medical condition that prevents you from receiving a fucking vaccine? That’s fine. I’m clearly not talking to you. I fucking love you. Fuck.
Behold our most ambitious issue to date, co-produced with Radiotopia from PRX.

Look, if you have been forwarded this essay from a friend or loved one, then there are two possibilities. Either you are a normal, regular, sensible fucking person like me who got fucking vaccinated at the first possible moment, and this essay channels all your fucking rage and sadness and is therefore cathartic OR, and I really hope this isn’t the fucking case, you AREN’T fucking vaccinated, and someone sent it to you because you fucking fucking fuck, you need to get fucking vaccinated. And rather than being fucking offended that someone is trying yet again to get you to take the fucking vaccine, you should understand that someone fucking loves you enough to try one last motherfucking time to get you to take the fucking vaccine before you fuck off to heaven, or hell, or some in-between place that’s just like a fucking mall or something where everything is free, including and especially the soft pretzels. So, congratulations! There is ONE person remaining in your life who wants to fucking save you from drowning in your own fucking lungs, you fucking fuckshit fuckdick, so for god’s sake, get your fucking ass out of your chair, go to the fucking pharmacy, and get a fucking vaccine, you absolute conscienceless fucking fuck fuck fuck. Get it. Get the fucking vaccine. Fuck you. Fuck fuck fuck. Fuck. Fuck you. Fuck!
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ex-khobar Andy wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:20 pm
I'm genuinely curious. I see nothing but a quote of the text of the post and the link. And if you click the link, McSweeny's is ad free. So I don't understand why you are seeing ads.
Bottom of 2nd and 6th paragraphs. If you follow the link you’ll see they are ad boxes in the text that get formatted into the essay itself when cut/pasted from a text only version.

Apparently I’m the only one whose reading appreciation was affected.
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BoSoxGal wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:33 pm
(The expletive laden rant would flow better if you edited out the advertisements, however. That happens to me too when I use reader view and select all to C/P an article. FUCK.)
Sorry, I didn't notice that I had copied the ads, too. I was laughing too hard.
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This is interesting and maybe I am learning something about how the internet works and specifically ads. This screenshot shows what I get when I go to the McSweeney's site. It boasts ad-free and sure enough, I see no ads. I am not a subscriber or a patron and AFAIK I have no ad-blocker in pace. I tried one once and it was more trouble than it was worth and besides, if the price of free content is that I have to look at an ad now and then, I am willing to pay that price.

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But if Sue accidentally pasted the ads, then how come I do not see them?

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That’s the bottom of the essay. Here are two screenshots from earlier in the essay. To clarify, the ads are for McSweeney content, so a no-ad policy doesn’t apply to them.
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Reads like I wrote it.
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My local Walgreens tells me they cannot do Covid19 vaccinations because of computer problems. They have everything needed to do them, but there is some kind of computer glitch. No they cannot do the vaccinations, write down all the data on a piece of paper and then keyboard it later. That suggestion got a big laugh. This does not seem to be limited to just my local drugist. The phone in Walgreen system, which is company wide, will not do appointments.

I have not checked to see if this applies to other venues. I was calling for a neighbor who has a 14 and a 16 year-old who could not figure it out. She thought it was just her lack of technical savvy.

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Usually problems like that are fairly temporary- did they give you some idea when to call back?
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I went in in person Friday with an appointment and they said come back tomorrow. So I did, with similar results. Me, I think somebody is honoring Labor
day by not laboring on this problem. Give it another try next Wednesday.

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Someone with deep pockets in the anti-vaxxer camp  (cough-cough-lindell-cough-cough)  has secretly cut a deal with off-shore hackers to create a huge 'denial of service' attack on the Walgreen's computers.  :o    That's the real reason he sold that airplane for $2.3 million at the end of July.

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“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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