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No Mo' Cuomo?

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I think Cuomo isn't the greatest personality on TV but I'd prefer to watch his show before watching someone like Tucker Carlson or some of those people on those other channels that call themselves "News" stations. Anyway, what am I missing here? It has come out that Chris used some of his sources to get info on Andrew's accusers and that he gave him advice etc. What's the problem? He didn't talk about his brother on CNN after the scandal became public. DId he post info on Twitter or do something illegal with information that he received? Is it because he advised Andrew, he might become part of his brother's court case - which would not be a good thing?
Chris Cuomo says he's hurt and embarrassed about his suspension from CNN

Chris Cuomo says he's hurt and embarrassed about being indefinitely suspended as a primetime host from CNN.

A day after the cable news network distanced itself from the top-rated host, Cuomo addressed the matter Wednesday on his SiriusXM Satellite Radio show, Let's Get After It.

"Quick note about the obvious — I've been suspended from CNN," he told listeners.

"You know this already. It hurts to even say it. It's embarrassing, but I understand it. And I understand why some people feel the way they do," Cuomo said.

CNN announced Cuomo's suspension Tuesday after new revelations surfaced detailing his efforts to help his brother, former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, respond to an ongoing sexual harassment scandal.

A trove of documents, emails and text messages released by the New York Attorney General's office, showed that the anchor used his contacts to dig into the governor's accusers. They also show he consulted with various sources to help the elder Cuomo manage the sexual misconduct scandal that led to his resignation in August.

"The documents, which we were not privy to before their public release, raise serious questions," CNN said in a statement.

"The last thing I ever wanted to do was compromise any of my colleagues or do anything but help," Cuomo said in the first minute of the radio broadcast.

"I've apologized in the past," Cuomo added.

CNN says Cuomo will be off the air indefinitely, pending an evaluation.
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Personally, I wouldn't miss him; but if he used CNN resources to help his brother, that could be a significant conflict of interest whch could lead to hsi dismissal. At the very least it does cast some question about CNN's objectivity if they do nothing.

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Aside from anything else, using his work contacts to dig up dirt on his brother's accusers was so far over the ethical line that his career should be over.
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It was always going to be a problem at some point, and IIUC Cuomo had some sort of agreement with CNN that he would never cover his brother, good or bad. Makes sense and of course everyone knew that they were brothers, so even if he (C) did report something which reflected well on A we'll take it with a pinch of salt. The brotherly 'sparring' of a few months ago was just vomit inducing but it made no pretense of being news.

It does appear that C crossed an obvious ethical line when trying to dig up dirt on one of A's accusers and if that is true he should be gone, no more questions to be asked.

It's interesting following the story at Fox. At one point they were clutching their pearls and gasping through their tears that even (shock! horror!) liberals thought his behavior beyond the pale. Ya think?

C Cuomo's behavior, if as reported, was clearly wrong. But if Fox continues to allow Lara Rogan's outlandish claims about Dr Fauci ( = Mengele) then it's a first time misdemeanor against their correspondent's felony.

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With friends like these . . .

https://www.aol.com/entertainment/fox-n ... 06294.html
On Tucker Carlson Tonight Tuesday, the Fox News host reacted to CNN announcing an indefinite suspension for prime-time anchor Chris Cuomo for helping his brother, former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, as he faced numerous sexual-harassment accusations leading to his resignation. And the point Carlson wanted to make was that family comes first.

“Helping his brother is not the worst thing Chris Cuomo ever did, in fact, it may have been the best thing he ever did,” Carlson said. “Not because Andrew Cuomo was a good person — he certainly wasn't a good person, Andrew Cuomo was loathsome — but Andrew Cuomo was Chris Cuomo's brother and that's what you do with brothers, even the loathsome ones. You help them when they need it. Period. It's called loyalty.”
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You have to love this:
Andrew Cuomo was Chris Cuomo's brother and that's what you do with brothers, even the loathsome ones. You help them when they need it. Period. It's called loyalty.”
I guess the Fox announcers thought of Trump as a brother, or at least that is the way I'd rationalize it.

FWIW, I love my siblings, but I'd never help any of them to get away with some of the things Cuomo did. Loyalty? no, that's called ethics and common sense. "Loyalty" only goes so far; it shouldn't be blind to the harm caused. But I wouldn't expect Carlson (or most other Fox hosts) to understand that.

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Scooter wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:47 am
Aside from anything else, using his work contacts to dig up dirt on his brother's accusers was so far over the ethical line that his career should be over.
I guess that's what he did because Cuomo is no more.
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Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:07 pm
......C Cuomo's behavior, if as reported, was clearly wrong. But if Fox continues to allow Lara Rogan's outlandish claims about Dr Fauci ( = Mengele) then it's a first time misdemeanor against their correspondent's felony.
“Has Lara Logan been quietly benched by Fox News? All indications are yes,”

Following her comments about Dr. Anthony Fauci during a Fox News appearance on Monday, Lara Logan has been noticeably absent from the airwaves this week, having made zero appearances since.

Oliver Darcy pointed out in the Reliable Sources newsletter. “Fox isn’t commenting on the matter, but prior to that Monday appearance, Logan was a mainstay on the network. Now she has disappeared.”

Darcy may have a point. Looking into some immediately prior appearances, we found that for the week of November 21 to 27, Logan was on that Sunday on Fox & Friends, and that Friday on The Faulkner Focus. That week the network also aired the Fox Nation “Patriot Awards” show, where Logan was a presenter.

The previous week, Logan was on with Trey Gowdy, Sean Hannity, Fox & Friends, Fox News Primetime, The Five, and America’s Newsroom with Bill Hemmer and Dana Bash, where she spoke with Sandra Smith about terror and promoted her special on Fox Nation. So she regularly appears both on the network’s opinion shows and the dayside news programs.

While Lara Logan is neither a contributor nor host on Fox News Channel, like many Fox Nation personalities she is on the network a lot. Or rather, she usually is. She wasn’t in the days following the Mengele comments.
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What happened to the Bill Clinton rule? Does it only apply to liberal presidents and not liberal governors? There was no good liberal woman in New York who was willing to suck Coumo’s dick so he could stay on the job?

What about the conservative women that accused Bill Clinton? Were they all sluts? You know they where not all conservatives. Liberals are such hypocrites.

Is it true that women are never wrong about these things:


After 40 years, the man wrongfully convicted of Alice Sebold’s rape has been exonerated. ‹ Literary Hub (lithub.com)

The rape conviction at the center of The Lovely Bones author Alice Sebold’s memoir, Lucky, has been overturned after an executive producer on its Netflix adaptation started asking questions about the guilt of Anthony Broadwater. Broadwater, now 61, served 16 years in prison after his conviction.
In Lucky, Sebold wrote about being raped as a first-year university student in 1981 and then recognizing a man in the street months later as her attacker. “He was smiling as he approached,” wrote Sebold in Lucky. “He recognized me. It was a stroll in the park to him; he had met an acquaintance on the street. ‘Hey, girl,’ he said. ‘Don’t I know you from somewhere?’ . . . I looked directly at him. Knew his face had been the face over me in the tunnel.
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What's your point on the Alice Sebold rape, Lib?

Clearly a miscarriage of justice. But Anthony Broadwater was not the man Sebold picked out on an identity parade; the forensic evidence was based on faulty hair matching criteria, and the police lied to Sebold about the nature of the identification parade. No-one here is blameless, except of course Broadwater who spent 16 years in jail for a rape he did not commit. But it's hardly relevant to the (IMO) rightful termination of Cuomo by CNN.

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ex-khobar Andy wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:54 am
What's your point on the Alice Sebold rape, Lib?
That's the part of his post that's irrational, insane and absolute garbage? :lol:

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ex-khobar Andy wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:54 am
What's your point on the Alice Sebold rape, Lib?

Clearly a miscarriage of justice. But Anthony Broadwater was not the man Sebold picked out on an identity parade; the forensic evidence was based on faulty hair matching criteria, and the police lied to Sebold about the nature of the identification parade. No-one here is blameless, except of course Broadwater who spent 16 years in jail for a rape he did not commit. But it's hardly relevant to the (IMO) rightful termination of Cuomo by CNN.
Consider the logic all humans are capable of lying and being wrong women are people, so women can lie and be wrong. And there are plenty of innocent people in prison, and most of them, in my opinion, are there because of stupid assumptions like the validity of lie detector tests and the reliability of eyewitnesses. How do we know the accusations against Cuomo are valid? Investigating the accuser needs to be the first step in any investigation. I see nothing wrong in investigating the accusers; otherwise, we are back to the Salem Witch Trials and might as well allow spectral testimony. Before you start accusing me of being biased, let me remind you Cuomo is a liberal. I have no interest in Cuomo; I only care about the principal.
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Consider the logic all humans are capable of lying and being wrong agreed women are people agreed, so women can lie and be wrong agreed. And there are plenty of innocent people in prison agreed, and most of them, in my opinion, are there because of stupid assumptions like the validity of lie detector tests and the reliability of eyewitnesses agreed. And, by way of a corollary, there are plenty of guilty people who will never see the inside of a prison, and many of them because they are able to buy the sort of justice they want. How do we know the accusations against Cuomo are valid? Investigating the accuser needs to be the first step in any investigation. I don't know about the first step in any investigation, but establishing the reliability of an accusation is always part of an investigation and subsequent judicial proceedings. But just as we do not allow testimony that the accused is a habitual thief (if that were allowed the cops would just go and pick up some known criminal and paint him with whatever crimes they need clearing up) we need be very careful with whatever we allow against the accuser. "She was wearing a short skirt, Your Honor!" won't and shouldn't work. I see nothing wrong in investigating the accusers; otherwise, we are back to the Salem Witch Trials and might as well allow spectral testimony. Before you start accusing me of being biased, let me remind you Cuomo is a liberal. I have no interest in Cuomo; I only care about the principal. In the case of A Cuomo, there were 14 accusations from various women. Many of them were staff and might be described as 'liberals' (I do not know this for a fact) who might have at least a passing interest in Cuomo staying out as governor. I think it was the sheer weight of numbers: let's not forget the 'investigation' which takes place when a single woman blames someone of sexual assault. Christine Blasey Ford if that name rings any bells.

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*sigh*

I wasn’t any big Cuomo family fan, but I also won’t ever forget how much comfort I took in following Chris Cuomo’s covid19 illness experience and his nightly chats with Anderson Cooper, and in the brothers having their on screen chats on Cuomo’s show in the early days of the pandemic. I agree it was probably unwise from the word go in terms of journalistic integrity, but they were unprecedented times and I’m guessing millions of Americans were similarly comforted by seeing the two of them so regularly in those days.

Apparently Chris has also been recently accused of sexual harassment? More to come on that story, I’m sure.

Oh well I was always a Maddow fan so rarely watched Cuomo except the start of the pandemic and won’t miss him. He is however the highest rated CNN evening hour, so he clearly has a fan base. I fully expect we will have the opportunity to see mo’ Cuomo soon enough, ratings like that tend to make journalistic integrity take a back seat.
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The question isn't whether accusers and their accusations should be subject to scrutiny; the accusations were investigated by the appropriate entity (the Attorney General's office) and found to be credible. The issue is that Chris Cuomo threw himself into a manure pile of conflict of interest by abusing his position as a journalist to engage in dirt digging and other shady activities on behalf of his brother. Even if Andrew Cuomo's accusers had all been proven to be lying, Chris Cuomo would still have been 150% in the wrong for doing what he did.
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If Cuomo's intent was to dig up dirt, he should have done a better job of keeping his information secure and sources hidden (if that's even possible). But even now I don't blame him for getting involved, as stupid as that may have been career-wise. I probably would have done something similar for my brother.

Speaking of him talking to Andrew on CNN near the beginning of the pandemic, I watched his show during those days and thought their interaction was great comedy and (in my opinion) there was nothing wrong with it. I especially liked the nose swab prop he held up when he was showing the size that would be required for Andrew's nose....

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