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Would You Buy One of These?

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for yourself, that is...


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If I wanted to kill myself, perhaps. I'd want to know a bit more on how death achieved, but if it is quick and painless and I had a reason to desire death, then why not?

As for "people profiting from death" as the report claims, funeral homes have done this for centuries, and hospital and nursing homes have profited from delaying death for as long as possible for decades, if not more. Is this really that different?

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I agree with you, Big RR. I'd also like details on how death is achieved but I don't see anything wrong with the idea.

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I googled it and the oxygen depletion is achieved by a rapid introduction of nitrogen; this prevents any panic or choking (usually due to the build up of carbon dioxide) and induces a euphoric feeling (the nitrogen narcosis scuba divers are taught about). It appears to be a peaceful death and one that can be self prescribed and administered. Not only that, you wind up in a coffin looking like the one Spock had in Star Trek 2. I hope these become more common for those who want them.

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Sounds like a plan! :D

Based on your info it looks like a good way out for those who want it. I'd do it.

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For some reason I can’t see Joe’s photo, but I’ve seen this story in the news. I would totally buy one if they become available here. A nitrogen gas canister from the party store, a hose and a plastic bag has been my exit plan for some time - after 6 years of hospice work I have no interest in experiencing the extended withering process. From all the research I’ve read it’s a quick, nearly foolproof and entirely painless method.

Incidentally, some states have been exploring nitrogen gas chambers as a means of imposing the death penalty. https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/388249/

The article is from 2015, but as of this year Alabama has completed construction of a nitrogen gas chamber.
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A nitrogen gas canister from the party store, a hose and a plastic bag has been my exit plan for some time
Interesting. I recall reading a few years back that someone (maybe this guy) was selling (or applying to sell) suicide bags in Switzerland using essentially the same technology; I would think having a plastic case of some sort would be more comfortable, and would not make someone think they were suffocating in a plastic bag (even though they are not).

ETA: Well, not entirely; from Wikipedia for Nitschke:

Nitschke created devices to aid people who want euthanasia, including a product called the "exit bag" (a large plastic bag with a drawstring allowing it to be secured around the neck) and the "CoGen" (or "Co-Genie") device. The CoGen device generates the deadly gas carbon monoxide, which is inhaled with a face mask.

Even thought the device used CO, there is no reason nitrogen (or helium for that matter, couldn't be used.

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Oh right HELIUM that’s what I was thinking of - the canisters you use to fill up balloons. It very rapidly displaces oxygen but without any sensation of gasping or breathlessness.
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BoSoxGal wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:15 am
For some reason I can’t see Joe’s photo, but I’ve seen this story in the news. I would totally buy one if they become available here. ....
It's a YouTube link. Here's the URl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJBelNnLELQ

It does seem like it could be a good solution for many people. It also seems like something that you would expect to see in the U.S. in the 21st century. Of course, there would be a lot of debate and it would be opposed by the politicians who like to tell you what's right or wrong for you (and who pander for the vote of religious based groups).....

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Like so many things he described in 'The Simpsons', Matt Groening apparently also foresaw this as well.



Didn't follow the YouTube link, but saw this on some other web site.  From the way THAT article was written, you do not 'buy' the booth; it's something that you utilize to euthanize yourself.
To qualify to use the pod, the person who wants to die must answer an online survey that is meant to prove whether they are making the decision of their own accord.  If they pass, they will be told the location of the pod and given an access code.
Once you've assumed room temperature, then, it would appear that someone else has to come by and empty you out, and reset the gizmo for the next client.
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I think the capsule/box you are in can be used as a coffin; not sure what happens to the rest.

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One of our clients in Aus took himself out with a low tech version of that, one of the "suicide bags" that BigRR alluded to. It was obtained from Switzerland.
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It's bad for the quality control staff though . . .
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Meh...a shotgun and a 00 round is a lot cheaper.
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Jarlaxle wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:42 pm
Meh...a shotgun and a 00 round is a lot cheaper.
You’ve clearly never known someone who attempted to blow their brains out, but failed. There ARE fates worse than death.
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Jarlaxle wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:42 pm
Meh...a shotgun and a 00 round is a lot cheaper.
And a handgun is even easier, as it is hard to hold and fire a shotgun pointed at yourself; I recall reading that many people either rig up some sort of string on the trigger or use their foot to pull it.

But the point is, not everyone can easily hold and kill themselves with a gun, and a good number fail and make themselves worse off; this is a much more foolproof way that doesn't rely on any skill or luck. It's a peaceful death for those who choose it.

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And I don't want to leave a mess behind for others to clean up. If you're gonna blow your head off with a gun, you should at least consider doing it inside a Hefty bag.

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Joe Guy wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:02 pm
And I don't want to leave a mess behind for others to clean up. If you're gonna blow your head off with a gun, you should at least consider doing it inside a Hefty bag.
Having viewed far too many firearm suicide crime scene photos for one lifetime, I can attest that the mess is beyond disgusting when shotgun meets brains - it’s a cruel thing to do to your loved ones.

I knew one guy in Montana who blew his head off with a shotgun out on the prairie, in a cut bank. Much nicer for the loved ones and a nice place to be in the final moments.
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BoSoxGal wrote:
Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:34 pm
2I knew one guy in Montana who blew his head off with a shotgun out on the prairie, in a cut bank. Much nicer for the loved ones and a nice place to be in the final moments.
You knew him, and he blew his head off.   Cause and effect, perhaps?
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Allow me to post from personal experience. If you are thinking of ending your own life -- DO NOT DO IT ! Particularly do not do it with a firearm in a situation where one who knows you will find your remains. It hits those left behind with a terrible emotional load of why's and what ifs and I shudda's
Perhaps that is what you really intend but that is a legacy of cruelty.

If you must, talk it over with your friends and family before you do it. Don't skip out with just a letter of explanation(or none) left behind. Actually this coffin with an asphyxiation gas source connected seems to me to be better than hanging, a gun, poison, auto crash or any of the other ways that have been used more often.

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