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Public education is a responsibility of government. Public education on issues of health is a responsibility of government.

If that is not so then the lies of the tobacco companies go unanswered and people suffer needless death, disease and disability as a result.

Anti-smoking ads in California have reduced smoking levels from about 26% (the same as the national average) in 1984 to below 14% today with huge savings in health care &c.

Only a moron whines about an accurate expression of facts to the general public.

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I reckon you are right on the ciggie skins Joe Guy.

Unfortunately I couldn't be arsed. so there is another fortune going begging.
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rubato wrote:Public education is a responsibility of government. Public education on issues of health is a responsibility of government.

If that is not so then the lies of the tobacco companies go unanswered and people suffer needless death, disease and disability as a result.

Anti-smoking ads in California have reduced smoking levels from about 26% (the same as the national average) in 1984 to below 14% today with huge savings in health care &c.

Only a moron whines about an accurate expression of facts to the general public.

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Making cigarette pack unattractive" is "an accurate expression of facts to the public"/ I don't think so, it is an attempt to provoke a negative emotional response, not an attempt to provide any facts whatsoever. Indeed, right up front I said i support education, just not this manipulative crap.

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What they need on the package is "SMOKING MAKES YOU STINK" because it does in fact make you stink, 100% of the time. All smokers stink, virtually all the time. I worked with a smoker who, when confronted with her malodorous-ness complained, "but I wash my hands and use a mint for my breath after smoking", to which I am thinking, yes but you didn't wash your hair and change your clothes so the stench sticks.

Apparently smoking makes you clueless as well.

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Thoroughly agree @m. I didn't realise how badly my clothes stunk until my nose and lungs were no longer desensitized by smoking.
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I can't argue with the smell observation, but if people ignore the comments of their friends/acquaintances, do you really think they'll pay any attention to a warning on a cigarette pack.

And as for stink warnings, I'd like to see them on beans as well. And possibly garlic.

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Big RR wrote:I can't argue with the smell observation, but if people ignore the comments of their friends/acquaintances, do you really think they'll pay any attention to a warning on a cigarette pack.

And as for stink warnings, I'd like to see them on beans as well. And possibly garlic.
But of course it's not the same because one simply excuses oneself to the next room to release the malodorous results of the beans and a breath mint will in fact take care of the garlic. Smoking stench is only remedied by a shower and a complete change of clothes.

But thanks for trying to play.

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In defense of the tobacco companies, if everybody smoked cigarettes, smell wouldn't be a problem.

It's not their fault that you don't smoke.

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@meric@nwom@n wrote:
Big RR wrote:I can't argue with the smell observation, but if people ignore the comments of their friends/acquaintances, do you really think they'll pay any attention to a warning on a cigarette pack.

And as for stink warnings, I'd like to see them on beans as well. And possibly garlic.
But of course it's not the same because one simply excuses oneself to the next room to release the malodorous results of the beans and a breath mint will in fact take care of the garlic. Smoking stench is only remedied by a shower and a complete change of clothes.

But thanks for trying to play.
Breath mint? I've met people who sweat garlic through their pores (you haven't?), and others who have flatulence which is not quite so controlled to permit them to excuse themselves to another room.

Gee, this is such a fun game, let's keep going.

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I agree with the garlic stink problem with some people. A shower won't fix that.

And perfume or cologne is another stinking problem.

Should they put pictures of smelly corpses on perfume bottles?

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Or French whores?

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Just a wild guess, mind you, but I think everyone who is buying cologne is buying it for its smell.

And again, I could be wrong, but I don't think anyone buying cigarettes is smoking them because they want to get cancer (or heart disease, or a limp dick, or...)
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Scooter wrote:Just a wild guess, mind you, but I think everyone who is buying cologne is buying it for its smell.
Once again you've proven that you are a very perceptive person.

But that doesn't mean you've made a good point.

The problem with a person wearing too much cologne is that not everyone wants to smell it.

And regarding your comment on people's reasoning for smoking, you're right again. But what's your point?

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You asked why there aren't pictures of smelly corpses on perfume bottles. I answered that no one needs to put a warning label on cologne to inform people that it has a smell. The reason for warning labels on cigarettes is to inform people of consequences which they didn't intend to have occur by smoking.
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Scooter wrote:The reason for warning labels on cigarettes is to inform people of consequences which they didn't intend to have occur by smoking.
Okay. Sorry I missed your point, but I find it difficult to believe that people nowadays need to be told that smoking can hurt them.

So, if our government thinks we all need to be warned about the consequences of our actions, maybe they should put pictures on perfume & cologne bottles of people holding their noses and running away from someone who is wearing an odor producing product.

And pictures of mangled dead people on the steering wheel of automobiles.

And graphic pictures of heart surgery on fast food hamburger wrappers.

And much more...

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The thing about smoking, which sets it aside from eating garlic/beans or driving a car, is that it has profound negative consequences, and negligible positive consequences.
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Gob wrote:The thing about smoking, which sets it aside from eating garlic/beans or driving a car, is that it has profound negative consequences, and negligible positive consequences.
True.

But the idea of a government requiring disgusting pictures to be placed on cigarette packs seems odd to me.

What about alcoholic beverages?

Why aren't the producers of alcohol required to put pictures of damaged livers and emaciated winos on their bottles?

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Well alcohol levels and advice are placed on bottles etc here, but not pictures.

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I suggest this picture and others like it should be placed on all alcoholic beverages -

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More effective for men;

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