Campaign 2022 is ALMOST over....
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You forgot to add that they are changed by Jewish space lasers.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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From the CNN piece BSG posted:
But most of those who still voted for him in 2020 must be in a different category after all the evidence of (a) incompetence and (b) total fucking idiocy.
And re Joe's comment:
This. I can even understand - and that's a very long way away from condoning - people who voted for Trump in 2016. Some undoubtedly were single issue voters - border control, abortion etc. - who thought that maybe he had the answers; some were those who had not fared well in the economy and wanted change, any change; some of course were Hillary's 'deplorable'; and there were probably some who wanted to register a protest vote -'a plague on both their houses.'In my book, I devote an entire chapter to my transformation from a 2016 Trump voter to a 2020 Biden voter. I had been a single-issue voter: law enforcement. But early in Trump’s term, my views evolved, as I realized I’d been duped by a carnival barker. My point is that people can change, and we need to do whatever it takes to help them – starting with explaining why it’s so important that they vote on Tuesday.
But most of those who still voted for him in 2020 must be in a different category after all the evidence of (a) incompetence and (b) total fucking idiocy.
And re Joe's comment:
Yeah. George Soros still owes me big time for those Women's Marches I went on. Up at the crack of dawn (7 AM) on a cold Saturday morning in January - I need my compensation. Sent the invoice and everything. Nada . . .I got a free "My Pillow" for writing that....
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Lots of people voted for Trump because he wasn't Hillary. (Including my neighbor, two guys I work with, and me.) My wife supported Trump because she hoped he'd stop the flood at the border.
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That's sexist as hell. And since Trump wasn't able to stop the flood at the border, although he might have slowed it up a little bit with that magnificent wall that Mexico paid for — oh, that's right, the wall never did get built, did it? — I assume she's seen the error of her ways as well.
So by my count, that's five people who will flip and vote Democratic in next Tuesday's election.

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OK...I understand that you are quite comfortable being wrong...but this is bad even for you. (Or you're just shitposting again, which is far more likely.)Bicycle Bill wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:14 amThat's sexist as hell. And since Trump wasn't able to stop the flood at the border, although he might have slowed it up a little bit with that magnificent wall that Mexico paid for — oh, that's right, the wall never did get built, did it? — I assume she's seen the error of her ways as well.
So by my count, that's five people who will flip and vote Democratic in next Tuesday's election.![]()
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My wife will be bringing voters to polls for Bolduc, Leavitt, and Burns.
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Always nice when get out the vote volunteers only provide rides to people who are voting the way they demand.Jarlaxle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 6:11 amOK...I understand that you are quite comfortable being wrong...but this is bad even for you. (Or you're just shitposting again, which is far more likely.)Bicycle Bill wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:14 amThat's sexist as hell. And since Trump wasn't able to stop the flood at the border, although he might have slowed it up a little bit with that magnificent wall that Mexico paid for — oh, that's right, the wall never did get built, did it? — I assume she's seen the error of her ways as well.
So by my count, that's five people who will flip and vote Democratic in next Tuesday's election.![]()
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My wife will be bringing voters to polls for Bolduc, Leavitt, and Burns.
The first time I worked as a get out the vote volunteer was way back in the 90s when a friend was first running for the Maine legislature. I visited over a hundred elders who were home bound, delivered their absentee ballot, waited while they voted it and returned it to city hall for them. Lots of them voted against my friend but I still happily assisted them to vote - and listened patiently and politely while they made my ears bleed as lonely elders often do.
My friend won anyway.
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And if I may expand on BSG's comment, what's the difference between transporting carloads of voters to the polling place as opposed to transporting an envelope or two containing an absentee ballot to the clerk's office or polling place? Especially when you're talking about a November election, where the weather is so unpredictable (I've seen snow in the air in my corner of Wisconsin already this year)?
Or are you people who are so intent on "protecting the integrity of the voting process" (yeah, right!) trying to tell me that you're OK with dragging some 80-year-old grandma with her walker or wheelchair to the polling place, come hell or high water, rather than let her stay safe and comfortable in her own home or nursing facility and vote absentee?
Hell, even TFG is known to have voted in advance rather than drag his Big Mac-filled carcass to the polls and have to rub elbows with the riff-raff on Election Day.
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Or are you people who are so intent on "protecting the integrity of the voting process" (yeah, right!) trying to tell me that you're OK with dragging some 80-year-old grandma with her walker or wheelchair to the polling place, come hell or high water, rather than let her stay safe and comfortable in her own home or nursing facility and vote absentee?
Hell, even TFG is known to have voted in advance rather than drag his Big Mac-filled carcass to the polls and have to rub elbows with the riff-raff on Election Day.
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Yes, I suppose I could agree with you ... but then we'd both be wrong, wouldn't we?
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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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Who said anything about get out the vote? She's working with the Leavitt, Burns, and Bolduc campaigns.
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Yes and I was working for my friend’s campaign but I delivered absentee ballots to dozens of registered Republicans who were 99% likely to vote against him.
Some folks support democracy more than others.
eta: Of course that gets right to the crux of the issue - when a party can’t win on its messaging and policies, it wins by suppressing the votes of people who don’t agree with it.
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That is...ridiculous.BoSoxGal wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:31 pmYes and I was working for my friend’s campaign but I delivered absentee ballots to dozens of registered Republicans who were 99% likely to vote against him.
Some folks support democracy more than others.
eta: Of course that gets right to the crux of the issue - when a party can’t win on its messaging and policies, it wins by suppressing the votes of people who don’t agree with it.
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Riiiiiight - nevermind that Republican candidates are currently running on the promise that they’ll never lose again if they win next week.
The only way Republicans never lose again is fascism. Autocracy. Tyranny. The end of our 246 year experiment in reason over power.
The only way Republicans never lose again is fascism. Autocracy. Tyranny. The end of our 246 year experiment in reason over power.
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Your system is fucked.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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After listening to "This American Life" broadcast/podcast on NPR this morning, I will be watching the Ohio state legislature election results closely. GOP continues to flourish by dominating rule changes.
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I know that the impetus for this Amendment to the Ohio Constitution is reaction to increasing argumentation that non-citizens should be allowed to vote in municipal elections. They work, pay taxes, equal protection under the law, and perhaps even illegal immigrants should be allowed to vote. Locally.Ohio issue 2 - Requires that only a citizen of the United States, who is at least 18 years of age and who has been a legal resident and registered voter for at least 30 days, can vote at any state or local election held in this state.
- Prohibit local governments from allowing a person to vote in local elections if they are not legally qualified to vote in state elections. If passed, the amendment will be effective immediately.
That was true of me - from 1977 until 2008. I was a registered alien (live with it - I thought it was cool), USian wife and child, job, etc. etc. It never occurred to me that as a non-citizen I should have the right to vote to order the society in which I lived. In fact, the reverse was true - I wasn't a citizen and therefore did not have the rights of a citizen.
If I did want my vote to be in the balance, then becoming a citizen is about as taxing as buying stamps at the Post Office. So, I have voted FOR this issue. Only citizens should vote, anywhere, for anything when it comes to running a town, school district, county, state. whatever there is. And illegal aliens most certainly should not vote.
(I voted against Issue 1 trying to take away from the Ohio Supremes the right to set the rules for bail and give the Legislature that right. I figured the purpose was to make it more difficult for the poor to make bail)
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People who are wrong are just as sure they're right as people who are right. The only difference is, they're wrong.
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$16 BILLION spent on this midterm election. Imagine the good that could have been done by that money!
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As Meade said. I'm a green card holder - i.e., legal alien - and have been since 1984. I could have become a citizen at any time but saw no point. But my own country - I still think of myself as a Brit despite having spent only 18 years living there - is such a mess these days I may decide to stay here for the rest of my life and even (gasp!) take out citizenship if only so I can cast a vote against Trump in 2024.
It never occurred to me to resent not being able to vote -it has always been a given that you have to be a citizen. I have all the duties of a citizen - pay tax, not be an asshole to the neighbo(u)rs, etc. I am allowed to contribute to politicians the same as any citizen is allowed to and I have yard signs. If they ever relax the rules about non-citizens voting - and I do not see that they should - it might make sense to start with school boards. In KY at least all state reps and governor and judicial folk have to be citizens and in the majority of case - I just skimmed the KY Constitution - for at least two years prior to their election. School board members too although it seems that they must have been citizens for at least three years.
I could make a case for school board members who are non-citizens being allowed (but it will never happen) on the grounds that they are consumers of education and just might have some foreign ideas which would make sense in an American context and yes, improve education overall.
It never occurred to me to resent not being able to vote -it has always been a given that you have to be a citizen. I have all the duties of a citizen - pay tax, not be an asshole to the neighbo(u)rs, etc. I am allowed to contribute to politicians the same as any citizen is allowed to and I have yard signs. If they ever relax the rules about non-citizens voting - and I do not see that they should - it might make sense to start with school boards. In KY at least all state reps and governor and judicial folk have to be citizens and in the majority of case - I just skimmed the KY Constitution - for at least two years prior to their election. School board members too although it seems that they must have been citizens for at least three years.
I could make a case for school board members who are non-citizens being allowed (but it will never happen) on the grounds that they are consumers of education and just might have some foreign ideas which would make sense in an American context and yes, improve education overall.
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And almost all of it was donated to the candidates..... in other words, there were pissing away other people's money.
Now figure that the biggest donors will get a huuu-u-u-ge tax break for these donations.
Maybe it's time to put a cap on the amount of donations that are deemed tax-deductible as a way to try to hold down election costs.
And maybe unicorns will fly through the skies all across our country Tuesday, shitting glitter and farting rainbows, too.
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Political donations are not federal or state tax deductible.
However, that is not to say that donors and donees (is that a word?) do not sometimes find creative ways to classify a political donation as a charitable - and hence deductible - donation.
And it's one of the reason that the federal tax code is 2600 pages long - it's full of deductions placed there to benefit specific individuals or industries who have bought their way in through a donation to a legislator.
However, that is not to say that donors and donees (is that a word?) do not sometimes find creative ways to classify a political donation as a charitable - and hence deductible - donation.
And it's one of the reason that the federal tax code is 2600 pages long - it's full of deductions placed there to benefit specific individuals or industries who have bought their way in through a donation to a legislator.