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[Gob]

But really, isn't the whole point of this thread (in "Laffs" I might remind you) that it was ludicrous that ANYONE was required to declare the headless body "life extinct".

Hang about! They may have been wondering if it was gainfully employed somewhere as a welder...

[Rick]

Lo I hate to be the bearer of bad news (Hen beat me to it).

The pronouncement only has to be made by a Coroner in the US.

The cop in the article almost had his procedure correct.

It was a funny story, really doesn't matter who printed it 1st.

Just sayin...


ETA--The head before it went missing:

[Rick]

I will admit after opening the full "paper" the articles do appear a bit Tabloidish...

[Sean]

Well I think they can be forgiven as The Mail is indeed a tabloid... not to mention more right-wing than David Beckham...

It did inspire a Beatles song however and there's not many daily rags with that claim to fame...

[Rick]

Which song?

[@meric@nwom@n]

Why shouldn't it be possible to live without head?

Chickens do it all the time.


Incidentally nurses here are not allowed to chart that someone is dead. Nurses chart instead "Pt. is RHC.

RHC means "respirations have ceased." Apparently though, local people with no medical education at all can be elected coroner and can declare that a person is dead.

[Sean]

Which song?

A Day in the Life.

[Rick]

It appears however it will have to take only 50% credit.

The number of holes to fill Albert Hall was supplied by the "UK Daily Express".

A prolific reader that John was.

So howd he end up with Yoko Ono?

Boggles the mind...

[Timster]

Indeed Keld, that whole YOKO thing still boggles the mind. *Love is indeed fickle*

Hey, I'm not saying that she couldn't suck a golf ball through a frozen garden hose. Whatever. Just not my taste in musical interpretation. *sigh*

Sean! You slay me!~

A@W! True story! We actually had a chicken flop down the outhouse hole whilst butchering* them some 40 feet away. The headless chicken does indeed have a life of it's own...

[*chopping their heads off, dipping them in boiling water, and plucking the feathers... oh, and ripping their guts out... Dang! did I mention that the Gob should start eating meat??

[loCAtek]

No, problem Keld, a coroner is a doctor, medical professional or medical lawyer. They've just specialized in investigating deaths.

In fact, that kind of explains this article better, if a coroner has never been a physician at all; by law they are required to get a expert medial opinion.

[Sean]

Well, just as long as you weren't wrong about anything Lo...

I can add 'coroner' to my vocabulary now.

[loCAtek]

Cool , pardon added more...

[The Hen]

Ha!

[Rick]

No, problem Keld, a coroner is a doctor, medical professional or medical lawyer. They've just specialized in investigating deaths.

In fact, that kind of explains this article better, if a coroner has never been a physician at all; by law they are required to get a expert medial opinion.

Actually a coroner is an elected official or even appointed and requires no medical training whatsoever, yet they have the power to overrule an ME as to cause of death.

The coroner for the county I live in works at the local funeral home.

The one (that just got fired as he was appointed) for the county next door (West) does construction as his main gig...

[@meric@nwom@n]

Same as it is in many small counties around here Keld. Zip on the medical training.

http://www.decaturcounty.in.gov/coroner/coroner_faq.htm





Is the coroner a physician?
Indiana has a coroner system, not a medical examiner system. As an elected official to a constitutional office the legal requirements are that the individual be a resident of the county for a least one year. The coroner serves the role of an administrator of the death investigation.

[loCAtek]

In CA;

A coroner or medical examiner has varying levels of responsibilities and requirements based on jurisdiction. According to the State of California government code, the coroner is responsible for investigating circumstances in violent, sudden or unattended deaths. See "California Government Code Section 27491" for more information.


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Become state licensed (if required) and pass all state examinations and medical board exams.


Each state has a different definition of what a coroner's job functions are, and how to become one. In some states this is an elected position and does not require the same credentials as a medical examiner.

From Wiki;

[edit] Qualification

To become a coroner in England and Wales the applicant must have a degree in a medical or legal field, e.g., criminology or bio-medical sciences.

[Sean]

It amuses me how one can completely discredit the Mail and still regard Wikipedia as a reliable source.

[Rick]

3. Coroners are independent judicial officers. They are barristers, solicitors or medical practitioners of not less than five years standing (S.2 Coroners Act 1988 (“CA”)). When not engaged in their coronal duties, coroners (other than whole-time coroners) continue in their legal or medical practices. They are required to appoint a deputy and may appoint an assistant deputy to act in their stead if they are out of the district or otherwise unable to act. Deputies and assistant deputies have the same professional qualifications as the coroner.

Not from Wiki:

http://www.coronersociety.org.uk/wfBecomingCoroner.aspx

[Jarlaxle]

Which song?

A Day in the Life.

Also mentioned in Paperback Writer.

[liberty]

Hen, what do you say we trade police? We will give you Johnny Ray Carpenter police chief of Winnfield, Louisiana for your dumbest rule follower. Pay no never mind to the trumped up allegation criminality. The chief was just protesting the disrespecting of a black police chief by not informing him of the arrest. Where is Al Sharpton when you need him?

Can you believe it the FBI acting as if defrauding Yankees is as actually some kind of crime.

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Winnfield police chief guilty of hindering arrest
Winnfield Police Chief Johnnie Ray Carpenter was convicted Thursday of interfering with the arrest of a woman wanted for bank fraud in Washington state.
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ALEXANDRIA, La. —
Winnfield Police Chief Johnnie Ray Carpenter was convicted Thursday of interfering with the arrest of a woman wanted for bank fraud in Washington state.
His attorney, Eugene Cicardo Jr., said Carpenter will appeal.
Carpenter could get up to a year in prison and a $100,000 fine at sentencing scheduled July 27 before U.S. Magistrate Judge James D. Kirk, U.S. Attorney Stephanie Finley said in a statement.
Two members of the law enforcement task force that arrested Porcia Sanders on Aug. 27, 2009, testified Wednesday that Carpenter whipped a crowd into an angry mob because he was upset that federal and state agents hadn't notified him beforehand of plans to arrest two fugitives in his town.
Deputy U.S. Marshal Glenn Belgard testified that he hadn't told Carpenter because he thought the chief might tip off the suspects. Louisiana State Police had investigated allegations that Carpenter was running drugs, Belgard testified.
Finley said the crowd gathered after officers converged on Sanders' apartment, knocked on the door and arrested Sanders, and several men shouted to "get the chief."
"A male later identified as Carpenter emerged from the crowd and demanded to know 'why are these folks being arrested,'" she said. "He never identified himself, nor did he have any badge or markings of any type on his person. He yelled for the crowd to follow him, and the crowd pushed forward around the arrest team."
Carpenter ignored Belgard's repeated orders to move away, "and he continued to yell over Belgard's commands," Finley said.
"Later on that same day, Carpenter showed up at the police station and got into a shouting match with the deputy about the arrest and activities related to their earlier exchange," she said.
Carpenter's trial took two days from jury selection to conviction. The jury took two hours to convict, Finley said.
Sanders made a sealed guilty plea last year in Seattle to bank fraud totaling about $2,600 and was sentenced to time served. According to Finley, Sanders allegedly was affiliated with a violent gang in Seattle.