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liberty wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:03 am
If I see something that doesn't look fair; I will speak up.
Ah, that accounts for your being so upset about 5 white people assaulting 1 black man. Good on yer, mate! You keep sticking up for those poor white folks.
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rubato wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:07 am
Identifying truth with faith is a description of self delusion. Faith is the opposite of truth and a mental cancer. The empirical method says so and the empirical method has done more to reduce suffering, extend life, and increase freedom than 1500 years of “ faith”.

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No it isn't
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Never contradict rube. He KNOWS ALL!
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Jarlaxle wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:29 am
Never contradict rube. He KNOWS ALL!
I think you missed a word out between KNOWS and ALL but I couldn't possibly type it for you.
:lol:
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Rubato, you are way off the mark when you say faith is the opposite of truth. Your announcement has all the utility of declaring that truck is the opposite of magenta. Different cognitive realms.

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Burning Petard wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:54 pm
Rubato, you are way off the mark when you say faith is the opposite of truth. Your announcement has all the utility of declaring that truck is the opposite of magenta. Different cognitive realms.

snailgate.
Faith taught that disease could be cured by confining sick people en mass in churches during the plague, which according to modern science is stupid.

Faith is brute animal stupidity.

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Have you seen the Republican field? The only one mildly palatable is Christie and he doesn’t stand a chance in hell of being the nominee.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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rubato wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:07 pm

Faith taught that disease could be cured by confining sick people en mass in churches during the plague, which according to modern science is stupid.

Yrs,
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What a farrago of ignorance
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Crackpot wrote:
Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:15 pm
Have you seen the Republican field? The only one mildly palatable is Christie and he doesn’t stand a chance in hell of being the nominee.
For those who need it, here’s a good resource: https://www.politico.com/interactives/2 ... fuls-list/

Bearing in mind that I find most policy positions of even pre-Trump GOP politicians abhorrent, there are a few candidates on this list who are as palatable as Christie. Will Hurd. Asa Hutchinson. Even Mike Pence. Maybe Tim Scott? I’m sure I would find most of his positions unpalatable, but in terms of restoring normalcy to the GOP he seems a possible candidate for that.

It’s too bad the GOP didn’t rise to the moment, reject Trump wholeheartedly post-Jan. 6 and embrace somebody like Larry Hogan or Charlie Baker. But I know it’s a pipe dream in the the face of the cult of personality fever currently holding the party hostage.
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Charlie Baker? Charlie Baker. That cannot be a serious post. It's not possible.
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Jarlaxle wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:34 am
That cannot be a serious post. It's not possible.
"Serious"? "Serious"?????

Hmm... Seriously, it's sometimes hard to gauge "serious" around here...let alone "possible"! :mrgreen:




(Remember this classic 282-page, 5627-post thread, and its serious opening post?)
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Mike pence, who I do not otherwise credit,
Has performed one of the most heroic and successful important. acts of our history, We all owe him a debt. If he had acted only slightly differently the Trump insurgents would have screwed us. Into the end of our democracy.

He continued the count accurately ND CORRECTLY when doing otherwise was politically and socially easier.

We still have our democracy because of him.

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Econoline wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:43 am
(Remember this classic 282-page, 5627-post thread, and its serious opening post?)
:arg http://www.theplanbforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13607 :beat
Ugh. Future me hates me.
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This is a great day for Comedy.
GAH!

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rubato wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:27 am
Mike pence, who I do not otherwise credit,
Has performed one of the most heroic and successful important. acts of our history, We all owe him a debt. If he had acted only slightly differently the Trump insurgents would have screwed us. Into the end of our democracy.

He continued the count accurately ND CORRECTLY when doing otherwise was politically and socially easier.

We still have our democracy because of him.

Yes,
Rubato
Mike Pence is not a hero. He managed to do the bare minimum to avoid becoming a villain. He spent four years as nothing but a toadying lickspittle to a lunatic clown. And even now, he can't bring himself to say that the guy who literally put his life in danger is unfit for office.
GAH!

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Jarlaxle wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:34 am
Charlie Baker? Charlie Baker. That cannot be a serious post. It's not possible.
You may not like Charlie Baker personally, Jarl, but the consensus of bay staters is that he governed well - and a Republican who could please as many Massachusetts liberals as Charlie Baker did would have been a very formidable opponent for the WH and a likely winner for the GOP if the base could get past their brainwashing.
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BoSoxGal wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:30 am
Jarlaxle wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:34 am
Charlie Baker? Charlie Baker. That cannot be a serious post. It's not possible.
You may not like Charlie Baker personally, Jarl, but the consensus of bay staters is that he governed well - and a Republican who could please as many Massachusetts liberals as Charlie Baker did would have been a very formidable opponent for the WH and a likely winner for the GOP if the base could get past their brainwashing.
He'd get pasted. In addition to losing his home state, he's essentially a nonentity-he accomplished essentially nothing as governor except getting a bunch of veterans killed in Holyoke.
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Sue U wrote:
Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:00 am
Mike Pence is not a hero. He managed to do the bare minimum to avoid becoming a villain. He spent four years as nothing but a toadying lickspittle to a lunatic clown. And even now, he can't bring himself to say that the guy who literally put his life in danger is unfit for office.
Hear, Hear !!
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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:36 am
liberty wrote:
Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:20 pm

If the spot was reserved, that changes everything. But if it was reserved should there not have been a sign displayed. If that had explained instead of ordering them off, it might have turned out differently.
Bet you're feeling dumb right now. Big signs! In English! Guess the drunk racist crackers can't read
That doesn't bother me at all; when CBS News lies by omission, I feel licensed to fill in the blanks. I'd rather be wrong than fail to speak up when I see something that looks wrong. If you fail to defend your rights, you will lose them. I know that the news media is biased; it has been biased for a very long time. Remember the kidnapping of Patricia Hearst by the SLA? She said: after recapture, the black leader of the army had raped her in a closet. I remember liberals at the time commenting in Time Magazine that it was a lie because black men did not rape white women. That mindset is now in charge of the national news media. Just recently, there was a case in Oregon, I think, where a black man kidnapped and enslaved a woman and kept her in a homemade concrete cell. She managed to escape, and he was arrested. The photo of the accused showed he was black, but no indication the woman's race. My suspicion is that she's white; I do know this is a fact: if she had been black and the man white, that incident would have been news for weeks instead of one day. So, the liberal news media does lie by omission, and my license is justified.
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All news media lies by omission. They have to. The target of the communication will not receive for an infinite period. Something has to omitted, edited, Many things are left out. As even 'the good book' admits that there is not books enough in the world to completely describe every that the main character did.

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liberty wrote:
Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:28 pm
I'd rather be wrong than fail to speak up when I see something that looks wrong . . . followed by more ethnic bias.
Obviously you saw five white people beating on a black man and your natural thought was for the agony those poor white people were going through being asked to move their illegally parked boat.

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