You really, really, REALLY couldn't make this shit up

[Big RR]

Kind of reminds me of when Rush Limbaugh accused Michael J Fox of faking his symptoms. I guess making up shit is what right wing bradcasters do--so they assume everyone else does the same thing.

[Scooter]

RFK Jr. Admits to Leaving Dead Bear in Central Park in Bizarre New Video

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has confessed to retrieving a bear carcass killed by a motorist and leaving it in New York’s Central Park with a bicycle on top 10 years ago in a bizarre new video he posted on X on Sunday.

The video, which was shared with the caption, “Looking forward to seeing how you spin this one, @NewYorker,” came ahead of a critical profile of the independent presidential candidate published on Monday.

While recounting the story to actress Roseanne Barr, RFK Jr. said that he had been driving in upstate New York on his way to a hunting trip when a woman driving in front of him hit a bear with her car, accidentally killing it. “I pulled over and I picked up the bear and put him in the back of my van because I was gonna skin the bear and … put the meat in my refrigerator,” he said.

RFK Jr. said that the hunting trip ran late and he had dinner plans and needed to be at the airport that evening. “The bear was in my car and I didn’t want to leave the bear in my car because that would have been bad,” he added.

At that time, fatal bicycle accidents in New York City that were getting major media attention. RFK Jr.’s friends, who were drinking, decided to leave the bear carcass with an old bicycle he had. “We thought it would be amusing for whoever found it,” RFK Jr. said.

Two women walking their dogs discovered the bear the next day and alerted police. “To think people would do something like this to an animal—very disturbing,” one resident told CBS news.

The carcass was sent to Albany for a necropsy, which said that the animal was likely hit by a motor vehicle and was not a case of animal cruelty.

This is not the first unusual incident involving RFK Jr. during his longshot presidential campaign. Earlier this year, he denied eating a dog after a friend showed Vanity Fair a photo of him about to take a bite of a charred animal. RFK Jr. also revealed in May that he suffered memory loss more than a decade ago, potentially related to a parasite doctors found in his brain.

[BoSoxGal]

Why doesn’t he just admit he hit and killed the bear cub?

What a douche.

[Sue U]

Why doesn’t he just admit he hit and killed the bear cub?

Probably something about Kennedys and auto-related deaths.

[Burning Petard]

Eat the meat? Really? I leave it as a student exercise to discuss this with real bear hunters. I just might invite Mr. Kennedy to a Musk Rat dinner in lower Delaware. Those are a traditional community fund raiser activity. I don't know about New York, but in most states private consumption of road kill is illegal. It is supposed to be inspected by the state and if usable, donated to some charity.

snailgate.

[BoSoxGal]

New York is one of the several states where the private taking of roadkill is permitted subject to certain regulations. I’ve lived in three states where this is the legal practice, Arizona, Massachusetts and Montana.

Here’s a link that details the rules of the states which permit this practice, and you’ll see mentioned that Alaska is one where the roadkill is collected by charitable organizations which distribute the meat to the needy as you’d mentioned.
https://www.wideopencountry.com/all-the ... -for-food/

[MajGenl.Meade]

There are parts of New York state where a bear-fatality on the road must be attended to by tribal leaders. The police will call up the local tribe. It's a ceremonial thing. The roads run through tribal land - Oneida and such. Happened to a couple that Margaretta and I knew well on their way to the Finger Lakes.

Tremendously inconvenient (though interesting for most normal humans). Explains RFK Jr reaction.

[Bicycle Bill]

New York is one of the several states where the private taking of roadkill is permitted subject to certain regulations. I’ve lived in three states where this is the legal practice, Arizona, Massachusetts and Montana.

Wisconsin is another one.   It's of particular interest to note, though, that any person can claim the carcass of a deer, bear, or wild turkey if it has been accidentally killed by a motor vehicle — although the driver of the vehicle that collided with the critter gets first priority.   I guess they figured that if the owner is going to have to take the financial loss of paying to repair the car, even if it's only the deductible on the insurance, they might as well be allowed to keep the meat as a consolation.

-"BB"-

[ex-khobar Andy]

I'm so glad I come here and learn stuff. I had no idea that someone might eat roadkill - I don't think I have ever given it a moment's thought - let alone that different states might have different rules about the legality of same.

[Big RR]

Most of the roadkill I see around my house are deer, and if anyone takes anything, it's usually the head, especially if it has large antlers. Maybe someone who is a hunter here could tell me about venison--I was always under the impression that a deer had to be gutted soon after death or the meat could not be consumed, so I would doubt anyone would eat roadkill unless they were the ones who killed it. How much time would a person actually have before gutting was needed.

[BoSoxGal]

Animals should ideally be gutted within an hour or at most a couple of hours - but that would be in cold conditions.

After the gutting the deer can hang for a little while before it has to be processed - I once lived across the street from a processor in small town Montana and every morning looked out my kitchen window to see hanging deer and antelope and elk.

Typically what happens is that if the person who hits the deer or other game doesn't want it, they report it to local law enforcement who usually know somebody in town who does want it. Sometimes the person who hits a deer knows a friend will happily process it or pay to process it. But yes, it has to happen quickly - otherwise it's wasted. Some states will relocate dead game animals to where they will be consumed by other animals as carrion, but some states will move them to a dump instead.

[Big RR]

I guess it depends on the locality and state; I have often seen deer (often headless) laying by the roadside on a highway for a couple of days before they are removed--not sure what they did then.

Actually, last fall I found a dead deer in my property 9(I live bear a small wooded areas and often get deer and foxes, less often coyotes and bears). I didn't did it for a few days (the smell dove me to it) and as it was on my property, the town would not remove it (and I couldn't find anyone else to do it. Happily, the turkey buzzards did their bit and a couple of days later I buried the clean (pretty much) bones. I think our problem with the highways is whether the town or state should remove the carcass.

[Scooter]

I'm not familiar with the circumstances of most of them (further posts indicate that many of the signatories claiming to be "retired" served only a few years).

But it is the height of unmitigated gall for Ronny Jackson and Troy Nehls to be signing this when they have so flagrantly misrepresented their service.

[Big RR]

I can't stand Jackson and think he is an asshole, but, FWIW, when he retired from the military he was a rear admiral (granted the lower half pay grade, but he was a one star admiral and the navy calls that a rear admiral. That the navy demoted him in rank for his behavior after retirement is something I don't really understand--I guess his pension is affected and his status in the inactive reserve is reduced, but I really don't know what regulations apply and how this action can be taken unilaterally for conduct that was not part of his service, but since no further action was taken (SFAIK), I have to presume it is legal. But, if I were Jackson, I may well still say I am a retired rear admiral, since that is what I wasn't the date of my retirement.

FWIW, Trump is a much bigger asshole, but I would still say he is an ex-president (and I hope he remains so); no administrative action can change that.

[Big RR]

Following up on my last post, I did want to say that there is not a lot of information available on exactly what conduct his demotion was based upon; clearly if it based on his conduct while a naval officer on duty, then it is pretty clear that the jurisdiction existed and, since the investigations could take some time, the decision could be finalized after his retirement, and the demotion made retroactive to the date of his retirement, meaning he retired as a captain rather than an admiral. Does this mean he should not call himself a retired admiral? There may be some regulation that applies, but I can understand why he would do so, even though he no longer holds that rank and does not receive the retirement pay appropriate to it. Of course, anyone who wants to can also point out the demotion. And, as I said above, since he has not attempted any sort of legal challenge to the demotion makes me think it is it legal and substantiated.

As I recall military actions, they can be taken administratively, generally by the consent of all parties, or require some sort of board inquiry or court martial, so I presume he had some chance to challenge this and defend himself ad chose to accept the decision.

[Scooter]

Who is going to tell her?

[Scooter]

[Bicycle Bill]

A N D    T H E Y    S H A L L    W E A R    T H E    M A R K    O F    T H E    B E A S T
U P O N    T H E I R    F O R E H E A D S   . . .   Revelations 13:16-17 (KJV)

-"BB"-

[ex-khobar Andy]

Would it be very wrong of me to say that I too would be disappointed if Trump does not earn the number one spot over Lincoln?

[Joe Guy]

Am I a bad person if I'd like to hear someone say, "Other than that, Melania, how was the play?"