WWIII? Or just a little fuckery?

[MajGenl.Meade]

Anybody who takes pride in rebellion against the legal government, conducting war against fellow citizens and enslaving millions of people because they happen to be black should probably not be in the military.

I'm glad to see that we agree on at least that.

Sorry about your grandson being proud of rebellion, warfare against the USA and slavery. I guess he's hugging the wrong tree!

However, your grandson has nothing to disqualify him; he can go and fight in the Arctic and maybe he'll get lucky and come back with artificial feet, hooks for hands and maybe an artificial nose. I will be happy to thank him for his service.

No my grandson's too busy smokin'. My son, he served two combat tours in Afghanistan so, you know, he came home with all his parts and a huge beard.

To him the Southern Cross, that I would encourage him to tattoo on his hand, would be nothing more than a sign of pride

Australians were they?


Brazilians?


New Zealanders? From Papua New Guinea?

[Scooter]

This thread has become a Seinfeld episode, people wasting their time trying to reason with an idiot about nothing.

[liberty]

Anybody who takes pride in rebellion against the legal government, conducting war against fellow citizens and enslaving millions of people because they happen to be black should probably not be in the military.

I'm glad to see that we agree on at least that.

Sorry about your grandson being proud of rebellion, warfare against the USA and slavery. I guess he's hugging the wrong tree!

However, your grandson has nothing to disqualify him; he can go and fight in the Arctic and maybe he'll get lucky and come back with artificial feet, hooks for hands and maybe an artificial nose. I will be happy to thank him for his service.

No my grandson's too busy smokin'. My son, he served two combat tours in Afghanistan so, you know, he came home with all his parts and a huge beard.

No, you're wrong, like I said he's Liberal. I think he's ashamed of being white; he's always accusing other white people of being racist. He came home for a visit unannounced and brought a black friend with him and was outraged that my daughter would not let him spend the night; that wasn't racist that was good sense. I don't give a damn; I am not going to allow anybody spend the night in my house with my little kids that I don't know. Buying drugs, he probably meets all kinds of people I wouldn't want in my house.

[liberty]

Lib told us:

All my grandson has to do is to show up at the induction center with a southern battle flag tattooed on his hands and he's disqualified from the draft. He is by the way a blooming tree hugging PETA type Liberal.

I'm really confused now. Is lib's grandson really a tree hugger with a Southern battle flag tattoo? What draft? And BTW the Southern Cross is something else unless they changed it while I wasn't looking.

No like I said he is a liberal, and he probably sees the battle flag as a sign of racism because that's what he's been told. It would just be a way of getting him out of the draft in order to save his life for that reason I think I could get him go along with it. I don't think it would even have to be a tattoo it could be permanent ink that would wear off in time. The so-called Confederate flag is a racist symbol that cannot be allowed on base since it would be on his hand he couldn't be on base, so he couldn't be drafted. As I said, it would just be a way to save his life. If you're going to send him off the fight a war you might as well just shoot him in the head and save him the suffering. He can't do it; however, I have a granddaughter that could; that girl has grit.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Anybody who takes pride in rebellion against the legal government, conducting war against fellow citizens and enslaving millions of people because they happen to be black should probably not be in the military.

I'm glad to see that we agree on at least that.

Sorry about your grandson being proud of rebellion, warfare against the USA and slavery. I guess he's hugging the wrong tree!

No, you're wrong, like I said he's Liberal.

No. I'm quoting you. You outlined in Red my first statement quoted above and then you said that you agree with it. You wrote it. You're stuck with it.

(Yes scooter, but it's fun baiting the disadvantaged when they use English as a third language)

[liberty]

Sorry about your grandson being proud of rebellion, warfare against the USA and slavery. I guess he's hugging the wrong tree!

No, you're wrong, like I said he's Liberal.

No. I'm quoting you. You outlined in Red my first statement quoted above and then you said that you agree with it. You wrote it. You're stuck with it.

(Yes scooter, but it's fun baiting the disadvantaged when they use English as a third language)

No those are your words that makes you a liar; I have nothing to do with liars.

[ex-khobar Andy]

Lib told us:

. . . . he [lib's grandson] probably sees the battle flag as a sign of racism because that's what he's been told.

I submit that he probably sees the battle flag as a sign of racism because that's what it is.

To quote from the South Carolina Declaration of Secession:

An increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. The States of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa, have enacted laws which either nullify the Acts of Congress or render useless any attempt to execute them.

Seems clear enough to me. And, evidently, to your grandson, lib.

[Joe Guy]

I wonder if liberty's grandson thinks he has a racist grandfather.

[Crackpot]

Liberty thought he came here for an argument and would up at abuse.

[liberty]

I wonder if liberty's grandson thinks he has a racist grandfather.

If my grandson thought I was a racist he'd say so he doesn't hesitate with anyone else. When my granddaughter was still a teenager, she lived with me for a while, and she dated a black boy I had no problem with it. As I saw it, she was old enough to start making her own decisions. However, when you start telling me I have to say things are true that are not you can kiss my ass, I'm not going to do it. The truth is the truth if the truth's inconvenient for you that's just too bad. Examples, there are black raciest don't try to convince me there are not. When blacks were saying ancient Egypt was a black nation, they were lying; genetics proved me correct. They are now claiming that ancient sub-Saharan Africa had its own independent iron age; they're lying again.

[Joe Guy]

If my grandson thought I was a racist he'd say so he doesn't hesitate with anyone else. When my granddaughter was still a teenager, she lived with me for a while, and she dated a black boy I had no problem with it. As I saw it, she was old enough to start making her own decisions. However, when you start telling me I have to say things are true that are not you can kiss my ass, I'm not going to do it. The truth is the truth if the truth's inconvenient for you that's just too bad. Examples, there are black raciest don't try to convince me there are not. When blacks were saying ancient Egypt was a black nation, they were lying; genetics proved me correct. They are now claiming that ancient sub-Saharan Africa had its own independent iron age; they're lying again.

Why are you so concerned about black people? Have they been harassing you?

[Scooter]

They are now claiming that ancient sub-Saharan Africa had its own independent iron age; they're lying again.

Third time posting this, because the village idiot keeps lying about it:

Iron metallurgy in Africa

Iron metallurgy in Africa developed within Africa; though initially assumed to be of external origin, this assumption has been rendered untenable; archaeological evidence has increasingly supported an indigenous origin. Some recent studies date the inception of iron metallurgy in Africa between 3000 BCE and 2500 BCE. Archaeometallurgical scientific knowledge and technological development originated in numerous centers of Africa; the centers of origin were located in West Africa, Central Africa, and East Africa; consequently, as these origin centers are located within inner Africa, these archaeometallurgical developments are thus native African technologies.

Iron metallurgical development occurred 2631 BCE – 2458 BCE at Lejja, in Nigeria, 2136 BCE – 1921 BCE at Obui, in Central Africa Republic, 1895 BCE – 1370 BCE at Tchire Ouma 147, in Niger, and 1297 BCE – 1051 BCE at Dekpassanware, in Togo.[4] Evidence exists for early iron metallurgy in parts of Nigeria, Cameroon, and Central Africa, possibly from as early as around 2,000 BCE.

The invention of radiocarbon dating in the late 1950s enabled dating of metallurgical sites by the charcoal fuel used for smelting and forging. By the late 1960s some surprisingly early radiocarbon dates had been obtained for iron smelting sites in both Niger and central Africa (Rwanda, Burundi), reviving the view that iron-making was independently invented by Africans in sub-Saharan Africa as far back as 3600 BCE. These dates preceded the known antiquity of ironworking in Carthage or Meroe, weakening the diffusion hypothesis.

[MajGenl.Meade]

Anybody who takes pride in rebellion against the legal government, conducting war against fellow citizens and enslaving millions of people because they happen to be black should probably not be in the military.

And yet proud Southerners are serving their country (the United States of America) under the rules and regulations of their country (the United States of America). Evidently the vast majority of those proud Southern boys are quite content to do so, without decorating their walls with flags representing hatred, rebellion, chattel slavery and destruction of civil society.

Apparently they have grown up some in the past 165 years. God bless 'em

I'm glad to see that we agree on at least that.

Explain yourself more clearly, sir. YOU highlighted my words in RED. YOU write that "we agree on at least that. So YOU agree that Anybody who takes pride in rebellion against the legal government, conducting war against fellow citizens and enslaving millions of people because they happen to be black should probably not be in the military.. Fair enough.

And you go on to write "To him the Southern Cross, that I would encourage him to tattoo on his hand, would be nothing more than a sign of PRIDE in the courage of his ancestors" thus confirming that he would be PROUD of the "courage" of his ancestors to rebel against his country, kill fellow citizens and enslave black people.

And to show that, he'll wear a tattoo of a symbol associated with a Pacific nation or Brazil? I don't know which of you, if either, would classify as an extraordinarily confused racist. S

Congratulations by the way on having a grandson old enough to join the army while you have "my little kids" still in the house. Your daughter must be a pistol too if at the age of (what?), 6 or 7 she can deny your grandson staying overnight. Perhaps I misunderstand you there.

[BoSoxGal]

Meade, are you unaware that the Confederate battle flag is also called the Southern Cross in the USA? Here's a helpful blurb from Google's AI:

AI Overview
Highlight
Yes, the Confederate battle flag is also known as the Southern Cross:
Design
The Southern Cross is a square flag with a blue diagonal cross, or saltire, trimmed in white, and 13 white stars on a red field. The stars represent the 11 Confederate states plus Kentucky and Missouri.
Use
The Southern Cross was used by Southern troops during the Civil War, but it was never the official flag of the Confederacy.
Meaning
The Southern Cross is a symbol of racism and white supremacy, and has been used by white supremacist organizations like the Ku Klux Klan to intimidate Black citizens. Some people view it as a symbol of Southern heritage.
History
The Southern Cross became more prominent in the 1950s and 1960s during the civil rights movement. For example, in 1962, white students at the University of Mississippi flew the flag during a riot to protest James Meredith's enrollment as the school's first Black student.

[BoSoxGal]

This Southern Cross:

[MajGenl.Meade]

The Battle Flag of the Confederacy (incorrectly painted on the General and waved about these days as a rectangle rather the true square).

But I confess to never having seen it referred to in any credible written source as "The Southern Cross" using caps. It is a lazy bit of semi-plagiarism. (Not by you, not by you!!!!). I blame AI for parroting back whatever term is googled. One certainly does not get the flag of oppression if one googles "Southern Cross" - well, other than the Oz and NZ flags of course

And I have heard of the Confederate Congress approval of the Southern Cross of Honor in 1862 to recognize the valor of Confederate soldiers. Due to wartime shortages, the medals were not made and instead the recipients' names were recorded on an Honor Roll. It was left to the Daughters of the Confederacy in the 20th century to come up with this design:


At this point, you and I are both better informed than lib

[liberty]

If my grandson thought I was a racist he'd say so he doesn't hesitate with anyone else. When my granddaughter was still a teenager, she lived with me for a while, and she dated a black boy I had no problem with it. As I saw it, she was old enough to start making her own decisions. However, when you start telling me I have to say things are true that are not you can kiss my ass, I'm not going to do it. The truth is the truth if the truth's inconvenient for you that's just too bad. Examples, there are black raciest don't try to convince me there are not. When blacks were saying ancient Egypt was a black nation, they were lying; genetics proved me correct. They are now claiming that ancient sub-Saharan Africa had its own independent iron age; they're lying again.

Why are you so concerned about black people? Have they been harassing you?

No I haven't had a problem with any black person since I was in job core as a kid and a black boy, and his two giant friends wanted to kill me. If it had not been for my black friend walking in the bathroom at that time I would most likely end up in the hospital or maybe the morgue. He saved my life and now I can't even remember his name. I can still remember what he looked like; he was kind of slim and not very tall with a brown complexion. I've often thought about him and wonder what he's doing now. I would like to find him but after over 50 years I don't think that's possible.

No, the problem with the black community is it's just full of lies and hypocrisy; I'm not saying everyone's lying many probably believe that propaganda. Remember a while back When a white reporter almost lost her job because she reported what she knew; a black family was murdered by a black gang, and she reported that it was a problem in the black community, a problem that's caused by black people killing other black people and people not snitching to the police. Somehow this high murder rate is caused by white people.

And then there was the ridiculous notion that ancient Egypt was a black nation; that's been proven wrong, but you didn't need a DNA test to show that was wrong. An examination of the mummies showed that they weren't black, for the most part.

And now there's a claim that sub-Saharan Africa had its own independent iron age; that is impossible you can't discover iron unless you have a previous metal age without a furnace and a bellows you cannot get heat high enough to make iron bloom; Why would a stone age people without copper or bronze have a furnace. They claim that deposits of charcoal and iron residue were found in the same place. Assuming they're telling the truth, which I doubt, charcoal occurs naturally in nature finding charcoal with iron together doesn't necessarily mean they are of the same age. I believe iron making has been happening in Sub-Saharan Africa for a very long time, but the knowledge of iron traveled up the Nile Valley and not discovered independently In Sub-Saharan Africa.

[Joe Guy]

Why does it matter to you whether or not Egypt was a black nation or if sub-Saharan Africa had its own iron age?

No I haven't had a problem with any black person since I was in job core as a kid....

...No, the problem with the black community is it's just full of lies and hypocrisy....

I think you don't like black people.

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[Scooter]

And now there's a claim that sub-Saharan Africa had its own independent iron age

Not a claim, a demonstrated fact:

Iron metallurgy in Africa

Iron metallurgy in Africa developed within Africa; though initially assumed to be of external origin, this assumption has been rendered untenable; archaeological evidence has increasingly supported an indigenous origin. Some recent studies date the inception of iron metallurgy in Africa between 3000 BCE and 2500 BCE. Archaeometallurgical scientific knowledge and technological development originated in numerous centers of Africa; the centers of origin were located in West Africa, Central Africa, and East Africa; consequently, as these origin centers are located within inner Africa, these archaeometallurgical developments are thus native African technologies.

Iron metallurgical development occurred 2631 BCE – 2458 BCE at Lejja, in Nigeria, 2136 BCE – 1921 BCE at Obui, in Central Africa Republic, 1895 BCE – 1370 BCE at Tchire Ouma 147, in Niger, and 1297 BCE – 1051 BCE at Dekpassanware, in Togo.[4] Evidence exists for early iron metallurgy in parts of Nigeria, Cameroon, and Central Africa, possibly from as early as around 2,000 BCE.

The invention of radiocarbon dating in the late 1950s enabled dating of metallurgical sites by the charcoal fuel used for smelting and forging. By the late 1960s some surprisingly early radiocarbon dates had been obtained for iron smelting sites in both Niger and central Africa (Rwanda, Burundi), reviving the view that iron-making was independently invented by Africans in sub-Saharan Africa as far back as 3600 BCE. These dates preceded the known antiquity of ironworking in Carthage or Meroe, weakening the diffusion hypothesis.

[liberty]

Why does it matter to you whether or not Egypt was a black nation or if sub-Saharan Africa had its own iron age?

No I haven't had a problem with any black person since I was in job core as a kid....

...No, the problem with the black community is it's just full of lies and hypocrisy....

I think you don't like black people.





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No, I disagree with white liberals too, but I don't hate them either. Liberals are hypocrites too; I remember when they would waive the Vietcong flag and burn the American flag and now, they try to tell me they didn't do it; somebody was doing it and I don't think it was members as John Burke Society. Actually, I don't hate anybody but thugs and bullies, and tyrants.