Would that be justice?

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Would that be justice?

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This man, when he was 19, pushed an Asian grandfather face‑first onto the sidewalk and caused his death. He was originally charged with murder but was convicted of manslaughter. The judge sentenced him to probation.

However, the family can still sue for wrongful death. That would mean, among other things, that his wages could be garnished to a certain extent, making him a slave to that debt for years to come, maybe for life.

So do you think the family should sue, and would that be justice? Has justice been done, and how much money is an 84‑year‑old Asian man's life worth?

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If it was my grandfather, I would sue. I would consider the award to be social justice because I am a communist.

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I vote sue. And I would place the grandfather's "value" as about equal to mine or yours or anyone else - i.e. immeasurable
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Joe Guy wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2026 1:58 am
If it was my grandfather, I would sue. I would consider the award to be social justice because I am a communist.
Well, if you’re actually a communist, I can’t have much sympathy for you. If you really believe in that ideology, then you’ve supported doing the same things, or worse, to other people a hundred million times over
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liberty wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2026 1:38 am
So do you think the family should sue, and would that be justice? Has justice been done, and how much money is an 84‑year‑old Asian man's life worth?
If it had been YOUR 84-year-old grandfather, would you be asking these same silly questions?   Hell, you'd have probably been holding out for "Murder-1" and the death penalty from the get-go, and demanded to be the one to flip the switch or push the button on the chair or the chamber or the injection machine when the time came.
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Bicycle Bill wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2026 5:22 pm
liberty wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2026 1:38 am
So do you think the family should sue, and would that be justice? Has justice been done, and how much money is an 84‑year‑old Asian man's life worth?
If it had been YOUR 84-year-old grandfather, would you be asking these same silly questions?   Hell, you'd have probably been holding out for "Murder-1" and the death penalty from the get-go, and demanded to be the one to flip the switch or push the button on the chair or the chamber or the injection machine when the time came.
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You're entirely correct, it is a silly question, because I know exactly what I would do. I wouldn’t demand Murder One; I would comply with the law. It is manslaughter, and the guy should spend some time in prison. Whether he spent time in jail already doesn’t matter; jail is not punishment, it’s merely confinement to ensure you are present for trial.

The individual made the excuse that he had a hard life. Well, welcome to the party; that’s a very common thing. I had a stepfather who tried to destroy my life by trying to make me feel worthless. I didn’t go along with the program; I resisted. He broke my seven‑year‑old nose, but I later got it fixed. I didn’t submit, I resisted.

Now this guy is a fragile snowflake. That’s his problem. He can’t take it out on other people.

I wouldn’t expect to make any money by suing. I’d expect to lose money, because no lawyer would take such a case on contingency. But I would try to make life as hard for him as I could.

And the fact is, just because you get a judgment doesn’t mean you’ll ever collect a cent. One way to escape wage garnishment is simply to found a non‑profit and pay yourself an income that can’t be garnished. I think it’s a loophole, even unethical, but the law permits it.

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