USA & Israel launch illegal war on Iran

[MajGenl.Meade]

I wasn’t concerned with details . . . I think that . . . I think there are . . . I suspect they may . . . I cannot prove this . . . I believe . . . I know that the whipping I received from my mother for stealing a ball of twine stopped me from stealing again

That's part of the problem, lib. You always are long on speculation and short on facts. But I guess you got one fact there; personal experience counts. Did you need counseling or did you kind of get the idea when mom said "This will teach you not to steal twine"?

[BoSoxGal]

Children don’t require physical beatings to learn lessons about proper conduct. Actually no living creature with the capacity to learn requires physical beatings to learn. Beating an animal or child is the sign of a weak mind and corrupted heart, I’m sorry your mother like too many ‘parents’ fell into this toxic mindset. It’s sickening how high the percentage of people who believe it’s okay to beat children and animals, if polls are to be believed. I suspect that has a lot to do with the damage that is done to a child when they are beaten by their primary caregiver whom they adore, and the convoluted workings of their brains as they try to come to terms with the violence done to them and fear created in them at the hand of a beloved guardian.

People have actually been training up children and animals in nonviolent ways for millennia, it’s just recently becoming more commonly recognized as the more enlightened path - so no arguments about new fangled soft parenting need be asserted. The studies on the damage done to children by infliction of corporal punishment are voluminous and quite clear in their findings.

[Sue U]

What Meade and BSG said.

[liberty]

Children don’t require physical beatings to learn lessons about proper conduct. Actually no living creature with the capacity to learn requires physical beatings to learn. Beating an animal or child is the sign of a weak mind and corrupted heart, I’m sorry your mother like too many ‘parents’ fell into this toxic mindset. It’s sickening how high the percentage of people who believe it’s okay to beat children and animals, if polls are to be believed. I suspect that has a lot to do with the damage that is done to a child when they are beaten by their primary caregiver whom they adore, and the convoluted workings of their brains as they try to come to terms with the violence done to them and fear created in them at the hand of a beloved guardian.

People have actually been training up children and animals in nonviolent ways for millennia, it’s just recently becoming more commonly recognized as the more enlightened path - so no arguments about new fangled soft parenting need be asserted. The studies on the damage done to children by infliction of corporal punishment are voluminous and quite clear in their findings.

Well then, why is it that Iran has such a low level of juvenile crime compared to the West? Can you answer that?

[liberty]

Well then, I don’t get this. You all express great admiration for Iran, but there’s nothing they do that you actually want to emulate. What is going on here? Can’t you think of even one thing they do that you find admirable and would want to adopt? Or are you just being hypocrites, as usual?

[liberty]

I wasn’t concerned with details . . . I think that . . . I think there are . . . I suspect they may . . . I cannot prove this . . . I believe . . . I know that the whipping I received from my mother for stealing a ball of twine stopped me from stealing again

That's part of the problem, lib. You always are long on speculation and short on facts. But I guess you got one fact there; personal experience counts. Did you need counseling or did you kind of get the idea when mom said "This will teach you not to steal twine"?

No, counseling wasn’t needed, because I knew that my mother loved me. The whipping my momma gave me was probably the best things that ever happened to me. Considering my early experiences with my stepfather, I could have turned out much differently. While I was under his supervision, I got kicked out of two schools, including Catholic school.

I loved my momma very much. She had a hard life, and what little spare time she had, she spent with me, trying to undo the damage done by my stepfather.

She’s been gone for some years now, but I still miss her today just as much as the day she died.

[Joe Guy]

Children don’t require physical beatings to learn lessons about proper conduct. Actually no living creature with the capacity to learn requires physical beatings to learn. Beating an animal or child is the sign of a weak mind and corrupted heart, I’m sorry your mother like too many ‘parents’ fell into this toxic mindset. It’s sickening how high the percentage of people who believe it’s okay to beat children and animals, if polls are to be believed. I suspect that has a lot to do with the damage that is done to a child when they are beaten by their primary caregiver whom they adore, and the convoluted workings of their brains as they try to come to terms with the violence done to them and fear created in them at the hand of a beloved guardian.

People have actually been training up children and animals in nonviolent ways for millennia, it’s just recently becoming more commonly recognized as the more enlightened path - so no arguments about new fangled soft parenting need be asserted. The studies on the damage done to children by infliction of corporal punishment are voluminous and quite clear in their findings.

Well then, why is it that Iran has such a low level of juvenile crime compared to the West? Can you answer that?

[BoSoxGal]

Children don’t require physical beatings to learn lessons about proper conduct. Actually no living creature with the capacity to learn requires physical beatings to learn. Beating an animal or child is the sign of a weak mind and corrupted heart, I’m sorry your mother like too many ‘parents’ fell into this toxic mindset. It’s sickening how high the percentage of people who believe it’s okay to beat children and animals, if polls are to be believed. I suspect that has a lot to do with the damage that is done to a child when they are beaten by their primary caregiver whom they adore, and the convoluted workings of their brains as they try to come to terms with the violence done to them and fear created in them at the hand of a beloved guardian.

People have actually been training up children and animals in nonviolent ways for millennia, it’s just recently becoming more commonly recognized as the more enlightened path - so no arguments about new fangled soft parenting need be asserted. The studies on the damage done to children by infliction of corporal punishment are voluminous and quite clear in their findings.

Well then, why is it that Iran has such a low level of juvenile crime compared to the West? Can you answer that?

This is so funny because when I saw his reply I immediately thought of posting the same gif, but I didn’t bother going looking for it because I felt sure somebody else would.

Thanks for being my hero, Joe.

[Scooter]

You all express great admiration for Iran

No, not a single person has.

Third time you have attempted to peddle this lie.

Did you imagine if you tried it enough times you wouldn't get called out on it? Not going to happen.

[Scooter]

So the cease fire lasted for a half a scaramucci. The Strait of Hormuz is again closed to shipping.

[ex-khobar Andy]

You all express great admiration for Iran, but there’s nothing they do that you actually want to emulate. What is going on here?

Who here is expressing great admiration for Iran? Yes, I think we should avoid killing school kids even if they are Iranian. And apparently our 'rescue' of the downed airman (who, while wounded, managed to walk 100 miles and climb a 7000 foot mountain in 24 hours! - you have to take your hat off to this chap) involved shooting any person with 3 miles of him. The 'rescue' stories are coming unravelled.

I have great admiration for many of the people of USA. I think their president is a disaster, a con man, a moronic evil thief and a complete and utter head to tail fake. Sentence (a) does nothing to negate sentence (b). And vice versa.

[BoSoxGal]

I think I expressed some admiration for Iran, and I certainly have great admiration for Iran - the country and its people and culture, NOT the current regime.

I took a Middle East politics course at uni for my PoliSci degree - heavy on history obviously - and another course for my women’s studies minor that included extensive reading in Iranian literature and history. I’ve watched every film available to me made by Iranian filmmakers, documentary and non documentary. The first I saw was Children of Heaven, a beautiful film that was Oscar nominated - I highly recommend it.

The Persian culture is gorgeous in many ways and deserves to be admired. Don’t confuse the people with the mullahs and the ayatollahs and the IRGC - would you want to be confused with Trump and the Trumpublicans and ICE?

[BoSoxGal]

I just saw a segment on MSNOW Ana Cabrera Reports, I tried to record a video of it but couldn’t figure out how to upload it here.

The young correspondent was interviewing Jewish American voters in Boca Raton; the guy they showed on camera was a man named Dale Hershman who expressed frustration with the cease fire and suggested that Trump needs to finish the job and ‘push the one button’ and ‘end the Iranian problem once and for all.’ He stated he has ‘no concern whatsoever for the wellbeing of Iranian citizens.’ He further stated (not included in the video clip) that Israel needs to just annex southern Lebanon.

The reporter also mentioned that the next man he interviewed stated immediately upon being asked his opinion of the war with Iran, ‘KILL THEM ALL.’



I no longer have any of the feelings I used to have for Israel. I don’t believe I’m antisemitic, but I no longer have any automatic sympathy for Jewish people either. I do believe that Satanyahu and his supporters are doing immense damage to the state of Israel and the Jewish people globally, and making new antisemites every day. It’s a fucking tragedy.

[BoSoxGal]

Here’s another account: https://www.rawstory.com/amp/trump-dest ... 2676693664

[BoSoxGal]

‘Mental breakdown’: oil tanker workers stuck in Gulf for six weeks are reaching their limit

[liberty]

I think the U.S. military has achieved what it intended in terms of weakening Iran’s military capability. Of course, it’s just ‘mowing the grass’, it only keeps them down for a while, hopefully five or ten years. But that’s still better than the alternative of them getting a nuclear weapon. Or is there someone here who would actually argue that Iran should have nukes?

[Burning Petard]

BSG, I don't believe you are anti-semitic. 'Course, I have a basic problem with that term anyway. A Semite is one who is part of a culture that communicates mostly via a language that is part of the Semitic language group. That includes Arabs and Palestinians and Hebrew speaking Jews as well as others. My own innate pedantry holds that 'anti-semitic' as used to really mean anti-Jew, is some form of propagandistic obfuscation.

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