Moobs banned

[Timster]

Who knows? Rubato does.

Evidently...

[loCAtek]

And what gives you the idea that he is either a drag queen or a 'she-male' or indeed anything other than an androgynous male?

He's a man dressing like a woman*, is a big clue.


*Glaringly obvious feminine WEDDING DRESS, 'eh?

[Sean]

Okay, let me put it another way.

Do you know the difference between a drag queen, a she-male and a cross-dresser?

Why not google Eddie Izzard. It may help you understand...

[Timster]

Eddie ROCKS!! . . . I'm not helping am I?...

[Sean]

You're always helpful Timster...

But be careful... Eddie doesn't have tits so in Loca's eyes you are probably a pedophile.

[The Hen]

[Timster]

Sokay Sean, he's over 21. And he looks better in leather and heels than most wannabe bitches~

[loCAtek]

Yes, of course. A drag queen is the most flamboyant homosexual, striving to be 'glamorous' to the extreme.

A she-male, most commonly found in Indonesia, is a man who to all appearances is a female, but at mundane levels. Can be a prostitute, to patrons who still consider themselves heterosexual, but not always

A cross-dresser, most often found in the West; is a person who strongly associates with the opposite gender roles; is often gay, but is not necessarily flamboyant or a sex worker.

[Timster]

"Indonesia"? Wait, what?

And frankly, I didn't understand the rest of that either... huh?

[The Hen]

A she-male, most commonly found in Indonesia, is a man who to all appearances is a female, but at mundane levels. .

I believe you mean Thailand, and not Indonesia.

[sarcastic mode] Though I do realize one little brown person is much like the other ... [/sarcastic mode]

[Sean]

Wow.

Just wow.

Yes, of course. A drag queen is the most flamboyant homosexual, striving to be 'glamorous' to the extreme.

A drag queen is in fact a man who dresses and acts like a female for purposes of entertainment. Absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality.

A she-male, most commonly found in Indonesia, is a man who to all appearances is a female, but at mundane levels. Can be a prostitute, to patrons who still consider themselves heterosexual, but not always

A she-male is in fact a pre-op or a never-going-to-have-that-final-op transsexual. The term has got nothing to do with prostitution. You might as well say that a female "can be a prostitute... but not always".

A cross-dresser, most often found in the West; is a person who strongly associates with the opposite gender roles; is often gay, but is not necessarily flamboyant or a sex worker.

A cross-dresser is a person who enjoys dressing in clothes designed for and traditionally worn by the opposite gender. Absolutely nothing to do with being gay, flamboyant, a sex worker or associating with any gender roles. Just somebody who gets a thrill out of it.


Psst Lo, a word to the wise... When you get your definitions from websites and forums and then try to change it into your own words it should still make sense in order to be convincing... and you should also try to make sure that your sources know what they are talking about.

[Gob]

Or you could just blather a load of stupid shite, in the hope that someone will pay attention to you...

[The Hen]

Who are you talking to in this small sloping font? Sean or Lo?

Hey is this a new fad I should know about?

[Crackpot]

No

[loCAtek]

Wow.

Just wow.

Yes, of course. A drag queen is the most flamboyant homosexual, striving to be 'glamorous' to the extreme.

A drag queen is in fact a man who dresses and acts like a female for purposes of entertainment. Absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality.

LOL I realize you know about homosexuality from movies so I'll recommend 'The Crying Game', 'La Cage aux Folles' and 'Rent' all feature gay Drag Queens. I happen to meet them on occasion, snce I live in the Bay Area.

A she-male, most commonly found in Indonesia, is a man who to all appearances is a female, but at mundane levels. Can be a prostitute, to patrons who still consider themselves heterosexual, but not always

A she-male is in fact a pre-op or a never-going-to-have-that-final-op transsexual. The term has got nothing to do with prostitution. You might as well say that a female "can be a prostitute... but not always".

Again, I speak from real life, not saying you're wrong, but while in the Navy I heard of 'she-males' or'Ladyboys'
(Link NSFW Do you just love Filipina Shemales? Look no further! ) On leave, to Indonesia, Thailand, the Philippine Islands, and other Polynesian countries the sailors were warned before leave, 'Look out for she-males!' They've been a part of that culture for eons, and the translation was around before the invention of the surgery.

Shemale (also she-male) is a term used in sex work to describe trans women with male genitalia and augmented female breasts from breast augmentation and/or use of hormones.[1] According to Professors Laura Castañeda and Shannon Campbell at the University of Southern California's Annenberg School of Journalism, "Using the term she-male for a transsexual woman would be considered highly offensive, for it implies that she is working 'in the [sex] trade.'"[2]

The term she-male has been used since the mid-19th century, when it was a humorous colloquialism for female, especially an aggressive woman. It was also briefly used as an exclamation during The Great Depression era United States, before eventually settling into its current definition..

[ur=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_%28South_Asia%29l]Hijra (South Asia)[/url]

A cross-dresser, most often found in the West; is a person who strongly associates with the opposite gender roles; is often gay, but is not necessarily flamboyant or a sex worker.

A cross-dresser is a person who enjoys dressing in clothes designed for and traditionally worn by the opposite gender. Absolutely nothing to do with being gay, flamboyant, a sex worker or associating with any gender roles. Just somebody who gets a thrill out of it.

Then we pretty much agree; most 'round hear are gay, so that's just my experience.

Psst Lo, a word to the wise... When you get your definitions from websites and forums and then try to change it into your own words it should still make sense in order to be convincing... and you should also try to make sure that your sources know what they are talking about.

You should get out more, Sean

[loCAtek]

The last time I met a cross-dresser, the time I was sure 'she' was a crossdresser (hollywierd gives you the impression they're easy to spot, when in fact it's quite the opposite. They really become the opposite sex.) was when I was on that work furlough program a few years ago. The men were separated from the women, when we rode to the work sites in two different vans. 'Juanita' who rode with us, was just another old Mexican woman to me, in average hairstyle and clothes. We would chat as best we could, but her English wasn't very good, so we just enjoyed feeding the squirrels on breaks together mostly. I didn't notice anything unusual about 'her' at all, but that's normal. In the Bay Area you may be meeting a crossdresser, at any time, you just don't know it. It wasn't until, the lead female worker mentioned to me that I shouldn't go into the bathroom with Juanita. The lead's English was also iffy, so I thought she was trying to warn me, Juanita was a lesbian. I thought that was odd, because I'd seen Juanita behaving flirty with some of the guys? Finally, she told me Juanita's paperwork listed her as a man. Ooooooo.

This was not entertainment for Juanita, she obviously lived this way as a woman, and had done so her whole life. That and her attraction to men, made me think she was probably gay too. No big deal, it happens in this world; we still continued to feed the squirrels together.

[Sean]

LOL I realize you know about homosexuality from movies so I'll recommend 'The Crying Game', 'La Cage aux Folles' and 'Rent' all feature gay Drag Queens. I happen to meet them on occasion, snce I live in the Bay Area.

Okay, if that's the way you want to play...
Bit of advice, if you wish to recommend movies with drag queens you ought to watch them first. I mean, 'The Crying Game'? If you think that Dil being a singer makes 'her' a drag queen you need to get out more...
The whole point of a drag queen is that the audience knows that they are watching a male. That's the entertainment value you numpty.

Oh and congratulations on meeting some drag queens... it's pobably worth me pointing out at this stage that over the years I have met hundreds through the course of my work. Some gay, some not. My point is that you think that being gay is a prerequistite for the job and I'm here to educate you. What's that? You think they only perform in gay clubs? Google 'Lily Savage' you muppet!
I'm just trying to stop you from embarrassing yourself even further... no need to thank me.

Again, I speak from real life, not saying you're wrong, but while in the Navy I heard of 'she-males' or'Ladyboys'

I'll bet you did...

According to Professors Laura Castañeda and Shannon Campbell at the University of Southern California's Annenberg School of Journalism, "Using the term she-male for a transsexual woman would be considered highly offensive, for it implies that she is working 'in the [sex] trade.'"

In the US maybe, certainly not in the enlightened part of the world I come from...

A cross-dresser, most often found in the West; is a person who strongly associates with the opposite gender roles; is often gay, but is not necessarily flamboyant or a sex worker.

A cross-dresser is a person who enjoys dressing in clothes designed for and traditionally worn by the opposite gender. Absolutely nothing to do with being gay, flamboyant, a sex worker or associating with any gender roles. Just somebody who gets a thrill out of it.

Then we pretty much agree; most 'round hear are gay, so that's just my experience.

How the fuck can we agree? Are you too dumb to see that our defintions are very different?

You should get out more, Sean

When you say 'out' do you mean further than http://www.psychforums.com?

[loCAtek]

no need to thank me.

Thank you for what? Agreeing with me now, that Drag Queens can be homosexual?

In the US maybe, certainly not in the enlightened part of the world I come from...

Um, we're not talking about 'part of the world' but all of it. Welcome to it.

You should get out more, Sean

When you say 'out' do you mean further than http://www.psychforums.com?

Yes, we agree again; you should get out further than http://www.psychforums.com and see the world of lifestyles out there.

[Sean]

Wow. I almost feel that I should answer that with, "I know you are but what am I?"

It's probably best you don't carry on Lo. This latest bout of childishness only serves to further humiliate you.
Be sure to get back to me if you decide to post anything of any substance. If indeed you are capable...

[loCAtek]

Cool, meanwhile back on topic ...?

While Andrej Pejic is androgynous, his 'look' in this photo shoot is too youthful and feminine at the same time.