'He drinks a liquid, falls into a deep sleep and dies'

[Gob]

A healthy millionaire businessman killed himself with his terminally ill wife because he couldn’t bear to be apart from her, an inquest heard yesterday.

John Lawrenson, 80, and his wife Caroline, 70, who had cancer, arranged the pact after researching how to commit suicide on the internet.

The couple, who had been married for 47 years, took their lives using a substance they had purchased by mail order from a vet in Mexico.

A neighbour found them dead in bed together at their £1.2million Grade II listed 18th century home in Great Waldingfield, near Sudbury in Suffolk, when he arrived to feed their dogs.

Police who were called to the house found a suicide note.

Greater Suffolk coroner Dr Peter Dean said: ‘Mr Lawrenson explained in the letter that he could not live without his wife and they started researching a planned suicide.

‘Having read the letter it was clearly apparent that Mr and Mrs Lawrenson had taken their own lives in a well organised suicide.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1PZxZtNLe

Should a healthy man be allowed to end his life this way?

[Andrew D]

My answer is "yes," but I think the question is incorrectly phrased.

The question should not be whether he should be allowed to do that. Or anything else. The question should always be "what, if any, justification is there for prohibiting ...."

[loCAtek]

Lo - Where did "worthless" come from? Is this an example of you not reading posts properly? Please point to any prior post in this thread where I said "worthless" ... and if you can't then please explain why you are making things up.

Opposite of sacred = profane:

1pro·fane
verb \prō-ˈfān, prə-\
pro·fanedpro·fan·ing
Definition of PROFANE
transitive verb
1
: to treat (something sacred) with abuse, irreverence, or contempt : desecrate
2
: to debase by a wrong, unworthy, or vulgar use

Next pendant question?

[The Hen]

Unworthy does not equal worthless. The words have two entirely different meanings.

Also the other word you are having difficulties with should be written pedant, not pendant. They also have two different meanings.

[Gob]

Mr Dictionary is your friend;

worth·less
   
adjective
without worth; of no use, importance, or value; good-for-nothing: a worthless person; a worthless contract.

worth

preposition
1. good or important enough to justify (what is specified): advice worth taking; a place worth visiting.
2. having a value of, or equal in value to, as in money: This vase is worth 12 dollars.
3.having property to the value or amount of: They are worth millions.

noun
4. excellence of character or quality as commanding esteem: women of worth.
5. usefulness or importance, as to the world, to a person, or for a purpose: Your worth to the world is inestimable.
6. value, as in money

un·wor·thy
 
adjective
1. not worthy; lacking worth or excellence.
2. beneath the dignity (usually followed by of ): behavior unworthy of a king.

wor·thy
   
adjective
1. having adequate or great merit, character, or value: a worthy successor.
2. of commendable excellence or merit; deserving: a book worthy of praise; a person worthy to lead.

ped·ant
   
noun
1. a person who makes an excessive or inappropriate display of learning.
2. a person who overemphasizes rules or minor details.
3. a person who adheres rigidly to book knowledge without regard to common sense.

pend·ant
 
noun Also, pendent.
1. a hanging ornament, as an earring or the main piece suspended from a necklace.
2. an ornament suspended from a roof, vault, or ceiling.
3. a hanging electrical lighting fixture; chandelier.

[Sean]

I wouldn't mind but I corrected "pendant" for her on the previous page.

[loCAtek]

I listen to all my friends;

UNWORTHY
Pronunciation (US):

Dictionary entry overview: What does unworthy mean?

• UNWORTHY (adjective)
The adjective UNWORTHY has 2 senses:

1. lacking in value or merit
2. morally reprehensible

Familiarity information: UNWORTHY used as an adjective is rare.

Dictionary entry details

• UNWORTHY (adjective)

Sense 1 unworthy [BACK TO TOP]

Meaning:

Lacking in value or merit

Context examples:

dispel a student whose conduct is deemed unworthy / unworthy of forgiveness

Similar:

undeserving; undeserving of; unworthy of (not deserving)

unmerited (not merited)

unmeritorious (without merit)

Also:

contemptible (deserving of contempt or scorn)

dishonorable; dishonourable (lacking honor or integrity; deserving dishonor)

unrighteous (not righteous)

worthless (lacking in usefulness or value)

Attribute:

worthiness (the quality or state of having merit or value)

Antonym:

worthy (having worth or merit or value; being honorable or admirable)

Sense 2 unworthy [BACK TO TOP]

Meaning:

Morally reprehensible

Synonyms:

despicable; vile; slimy; unworthy; worthless; ugly; wretched

Context examples:

would do something as despicable as murder / ugly crimes / the vile development of slavery appalled them / a slimy little liar

Similar:

evil (morally bad or wrong)

http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/unworthy.htm

[Sean]

Now look up 'synonym'...

[loCAtek]

I think you need to; also synonymous.

[Gob]

Where does "worthless" come into this discussion again? Nobody has used the word as far as I can see.

[The Hen]

Which was the Stoat's point.

[Sean]

It was used by a poster who you have on ignore.

She claimed that 'worthless' is the opposite of 'sacred'.

[Gob]

I had to open her posts to find this, why do I bother?

1pro·fane
verb \prō-ˈfān, prə-\
pro·fanedpro·fan·ing
Definition of PROFANE
transitive verb
1
: to treat (something sacred) with abuse, irreverence, or contempt : desecrate
2
: to debase by a wrong, unworthy, or vulgar use

transitive verb
 
noun Grammar .
a verb accompanied by a direct object and from which a passive can be formed, as deny, rectify, elect.

The usage is "TO PROFANE" you silly bitch, it does not mean that profane = unworthy. It mean "to profane" something, you use it in an wrong or vulgar or unworthy way.

Jesus, therefore her whole derailing of this thread to get fucking attention off people is based on her own inability to understand what she herself posts, just as Stoat said.

Fuck me pink, back to ignore.

[loCAtek]

Jeez Gob, stay on ignore then please. No one asked you to butt in.

Even the pedant can see the opposite of sacred is profane AKA unworthy, which is a synonym of worthless.

Next?

[The Hen]

Ignorant, much?

[Sean]

Show some encouragement Hen.
She did manage to get 'pedant' right this time...

Maybe we can do a Care in the Community type thing and help her with the rest of the language.

[Sean]

Jeez Gob, stay on ignore then please. No one asked you to butt in.

Even the pedant can see the opposite of sacred is profane AKA unworthy, which is a synonym of worthless.

Next?

I couldn't let you miss out on this gem Strop...

More butchering than Jack the Ripper in a brothel!

[Gob]

Jeez Gob, stay on ignore then please. No one asked you to butt in.

Even the pedant can see the opposite of sacred is profane AKA unworthy, which is a synonym of worthless.

Next?

Nope, the opposite of sacred is profane, however profane does not mean unworthy.

Your blatant fucking stupidity and inability to understand a basic dictionary reference is astonishing. It gets you attention though I suppose.

pro·fane
   
adjective
1. characterized by irreverence or contempt for God or sacred principles or things; irreligious.
2. not devoted to holy or religious purposes; unconsecrated; secular ( opposed to sacred).
3. unholy; heathen; pagan: profane rites.


verb (used with object)
6. to misuse (anything that should be held in reverence or respect); defile; debase; employ basely or unworthily.
7. to treat (anything sacred) with irreverence or contempt; violate the sanctity of: to profane a shrine.


Origin:
1350–1400; (adj.) < Latin profānus literally, before (outside of) the temple; replacing Middle English prophane < Medieval Latin prophānus desecrated ( see pro-1 , fane); (v.) < Latin profānāre, derivative of profānus; replacing Middle English prophanen < Medieval Latin prophānāre to desecrate


Can be confused:  lewd, obscene, pornographic, profanatory, profane .

Synonyms
1. blasphemous, sacrilegious, impious, ungodly. 2. temporal. 3. unhallowed. 5. low, mean, base. 7. desecrate.

Antonyms
1. sacred. 2. spiritual. 3. holy.

Dictionary.com Unabridged
Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2011.

Collins
World English Dictionary
profane (prəˈfeɪn) [Click for IPA pronunciation guide]

— adj
1. having or indicating contempt, irreverence, or disrespect for a divinity or something sacred
2. not designed or used for religious purposes; secular
3. not initiated into the inner mysteries or sacred rites
4. vulgar, coarse, or blasphemous: profane language

— vb
5. to treat or use (something sacred) with irreverence
6. to put to an unworthy or improper use

[C15: from Latin profānus outside the temple, from pro- 1 + fānum temple]

Let's see if she falls into the obvious trap shall we?

[loCAtek]

We've been through this already

Lo - Where did "worthless" come from? Is this an example of you not reading posts properly? Please point to any prior post in this thread where I said "worthless" ... and if you can't then please explain why you are making things up.

Opposite of sacred = profane:

1pro·fane
verb \prō-ˈfān, prə-\
pro·fanedpro·fan·ing
Definition of PROFANE
transitive verb
1
: to treat (something sacred) with abuse, irreverence, or contempt : desecrate
2
: to debase by a wrong, unworthy, or vulgar use

Next pendant question?

I listen to all my friends, stay on ignore if you're not my friend, then.

[Gob]

Do you know what the difference between using a word as an adjective and as a verb is? Do you?

to debase by a wrong, unworthy, or vulgar use

Does not mean profane = unworthy, nor does it mean profane =wrong, nor does it mean profane = vulgar.

It means PROFANE = TO DEBASE. You silly cow.

You have made an error which most reasonably educated ten year olds would not.

smear
   
verb (used with object)
1. to spread or daub (an oily, greasy, viscous, or wet substance) on or over something: to smear butter on bread.
2. to spread or daub an oily, greasy, viscous, or wet substance on: to smear bread with butter.
3. to stain, spot, or make dirty with something oily, greasy, viscous, or wet.

so according to your way of abusing the English language, smear = viscous.