Prime Rib For The Doggy....

[Gob]

Allow me to remind you that you started the sweep with your ignorant comments about the Russians in this article...

You're confusing 'Russia' the location of documented human trafficking activities, with the one of over twenty nationalities found in the Saratov region alone. I don't know what 'Olga's' ethnic background was, nor did I attribute her behavior to her heritage. Allow me to inform you: The present high crime rate in former Soviet Union is due to dire economic factors following the fall of the communist party. The sociological reaction to the prolonged stress of financial instability and weak government, is entirely human and not unprecedented. You have people trying to lead normal lives there, and you have the criminal element trying to exploit the circumstances. Eventually, some sort of equilibrium will be achieved. (hopefully)

In the meantime, average folks will try to protect their immediate interests themselves, with dogs, gates and guards. Being responsible or irresponsible about that protection, is up to the individual.

She's been googling again, and found some shit.

Lets look at her actual words about Russia...

Knowing Russian cops, the babe was in better paws; the Ruskies would have shot first and asked questions later.

Can anyone explain the "logic" of this one please?

The park in Saratov was rife with potential kidnappers, the mother knew this, yet abandoned it.

'The public' in Saratov, Russia in a park, the middle of the night would be pimps and their human traffick - prostitutes.

Saratov, one of the corridors of the human trafficking industry to Europe;

Did you know that Moscow and Saratov were both in Eastern Russia and part of 'the center of European human trafficking', I linked to?

(Her link was a map showing that both Moscow and Saratov are in the USSR, Saratov is in Southern Russia..)

The Saratov region is highly industrialized, due in part to the rich in natural and industrial resources of the area. The region is also one of the more important and largest cultural and scientific centres in Russia. Saratov possesses six institutes of the Russian Academy of Sciences, 21 research institutes, 19 project institutes, as well as the Saratov State University, the Saratov State Socio-Economic University, the Saratov State Technical University, and many scientific and technological laboratories attached to some of the city's large industrial enterprises.

Of course, any of the academics, researchers, or good people who work in these places automatically becomes a kidnapping pimp, human trafficking, prostitute, according to Lo...

[The Hen]

No, no, no. She may have SAID all that and you may be able to prove that she said all that. But that doesn't mean that I wasn't "confusing 'Russia' the location of documented human trafficking activities, with the one of over twenty nationalities found in the Saratov region".

Lo wasn't being a sweeping generalising racist. Not at all.



And all because I just wanted to know what she meant by her statement that "Dogs command too much respect, to narc on'em."

[Scooter]

But that doesn't mean that I wasn't "confusing 'Russia' the location of documented human trafficking activities, with the one of over twenty nationalities found in the Saratov region".

How does one go about confusing a country with a nationality? Wouldn't that be a little bit like confusing a wheat field with a vodka tonic?

Oh wait, she drank the vodka tonic

[The Hen]

But at least I now know that dogs command too much respect from scum of over twenty nationalities for these said scum to narc on the dog.

[Scooter]

[loCAtek]

So anyone who walked by the baby in the park was justified in doing nothing because he/she was afraid of being a victim of crime???

Long before this incident, the reason Olga probably owned a large dog trained to guard, was because the crime in that area Is so high. Here in the states, rotties are popular on the East coast and Pitbulls on the west coast, for that reason: personal protection. Walk through a low income neighborhood, with little police presence and you'll see a lot of tough-looking breeds. Now, either the park was completely deserted; or Lada, the dog was very efficient in protecting her ward.

The mother herself said her first concern was that her child had been kidnapped. The rise of organized crime, the Red Mafia has been pretty obvious; with human trafficking being one of there stocks in trade;


CONTRABAND WOMEN -- A special report.; Traffickers' New Cargo: Naive Slavic Women

It's a big enough global concern that the US military service members are briefed in reported it if they suspect it.

[Scooter]

And what does any of that have to do with why someone who noticed the baby in the park would have done nothing and walked right on by?

[Lord Jim]

The mother herself said her first concern was that her child had been kidnapped

LoCa, my take on that was that the reason she thought he had been kidnapped was because she got so polluted that she had a blackout, so when she came to the next morning she didn't remember that she had left junior in the park....she thought the kid had been kidnapped from the house when she discovered that the baby was missing.

[loCAtek]

Well, this has all been in answer to the question: Why didn't someone call the cops? Or;

And what does any of that have to do with why someone who noticed the baby in the park would have done nothing and walked right on by?

Because the cops are corrupt; corrupted by the Red Mafia. Calling Saratov police may have been handing the baby over to mob kidnappers, who are so powerful they targetl government officials;

Saratov's Prosecutor Gunned Down [for fighting corruption]

The Saratov region's top prosecutor was gunned down near his home in an attack authorities said resembled a contract[mafia] murder.

...

The attacker likely used a silencer, as witnesses heard no sounds of gunshots, a source in the Prosecutor General's Office told RIA-Novosti.

Grigoryev was known for taking a tough public stance on corruption and had already been the target of a purported assassination plot.

A Saratov court last month convicted local resident Yevgeny Rusakov of plotting to kill Grigoryev and sentenced him to five years in prison, Interfax reported.

Last year, Grigoryev set up a special department to fight corruption among civil servants, sending more than 132 corruption cases to court, Gazeta.ru reported.

The department targeted senior officials suspected of bribery and blackmail, including regional agriculture minister Alexander Nemyslenov, senior police official Dmitry Maloshenko, and former Saratov Mayor Yury Aksyonenko

[Gob]

and opening up Lo's selectively edited link, what do we find?

Yevgeny Grigoryev, head of the Saratov Regional Prosecutor's Office, was shot dead by an unidentified man at around 7:30 p.m. Wednesday in the courtyard of his apartment building in central Saratov, a spokeswoman for the regional branch of the Investigative Committee said Thursday.

Grigoryev, 48, was shot in the head and chest and died at the scene, said the spokeswoman, who refused to give her name.

"The possibility that this was a contract murder is being investigated, though all other possible scenarios are also being considered," the spokeswoman said.

Last year, Grigoryev set up a special department to fight corruption among civil servants, sending more than 132 corruption cases to court, Gazeta.ru reported.

The department targeted senior officials suspected of bribery and blackmail, including regional agriculture minister Alexander Nemyslenov, senior police official Dmitry Maloshenko, and former Saratov Mayor Yury Aksyonenko.

Aksyonenko is suspected of abuse of office in connection with the purportedly illegal distribution of land plots.

The spokeswoman for the regional Investigative Committee, which is still investigating Aksyonenko, declined to speculate on any possible links between the Aksyonenko case and Grigoryev's murder.

Prosecutor General Yury Chaika has moved in to take personal control of the case, saying that "such crimes against law and order cannot go unpunished," Chaika's office said in a statement.

Yury Denisov, head of the Samara Regional Prosecutor's Office, praised Grigoryev as a "very qualified specialist" and said the type of weapon used in the attack "indicates that this was a contract murder connected, naturally, with his professional activities," Interfax reported.

So far from being anything to do with "Red Mafia Cops" this cop was possibly, but not definitely gunned down in 2008 for banging up corrupt civil servants...

[Sean]

I think the question and the answer are as follows:

Why did nobody stop to assist the baby?
Because the dog was doing a better job of childminding than any goddamn pinko Commie would!

Perfectly sane and reasonable.

[Scooter]

And what does any of that have to do with why someone who noticed the baby in the park would have done nothing and walked right on by?

Because the cops are corrupt; corrupted by the Red Mafia. Calling Saratov police may have been handing the baby over to mob kidnappers

You have offered nothing to demonstrate that the Russian mafia has anything to do with baby kidnapping, much less that they are aided in such endeavours by police (all of the "sources" you have provided have been on the subject of human trafficking for prostitution - no one is going to kidnap a baby and take care of it for years until it is old enough to be a prostitute). Besides which, Russian hospitals are overflowing with thousands upon thousands of infants that have been abandoned by their mothers and for whom there is no foster placement; who is going to pay the mob for a black market baby when they can take their pick from the multitude of infants already in the system? It's nothing like North America where people might attempt to buy a black market baby because it's so difficult to get an infant.

And lookee here, it describes a human trafficking case in Saratov where the police investigated and arrested the perpetrator. If all of the police in Saratov are as corrupt as you say, why wouldn't they just take a payoff and look the other way?

And here's a story about Saratov police rescuing a group of women who had been forced into prostitution and arresting the gang who controlled them. Shouldn't their corruption have caused them to offer protection (for a price, of course) to the pimps?

And here is a story about the take down of an extortion gang by the Saratov police. Where could their completely corrupted souls possibly have mustered up the integrity to root out mob activity?

And here is a story about the arrest in Saratov region of 36 organized crime figures. B-B-B-But, isn't the Saratov police force in the pocket of organized crime? Why would they be arresting their good pals in the mob?

Here's a story about a Saratov police officer who lost his job after taking a bribe from a pimp. What, you say, taking bribes from pimps isn't considered acceptable behaviour on the hopelessly corrupt Saratov police force? Apparently not...

The Saratov region's top prosecutor was gunned down near his home in an attack authorities said resembled a contract[mafia] murder.

Hmmm

SARATOV. Oct 6 (Interfax) - On Tuesday, a court in the Saratov region issued a guilty verdict in the case over the murder of regional prosecutor Yevgeny Grigoryev, an Interfax correspondent reported from the courtroom.

Defendant Alexander Panchenko has been sentenced to 17 years of imprisonment, Bukenbai Kaziyev and Marat Kazakov to 20 years of imprisonment. All of them will serve their sentences at high-security prisons.

The court also compelled them to pay nine million rubles in damages to the victims. During the trial the victims claimed a 50 million ruble compensation.

On September 30 the jurors found all three defendants guilty. The defendants pled not guilty.

Grigoryev was killed outside his house in Saratov on February 13, 2008.

No mention in reporting on the trial of mob involvement in the murder?

Say it isn't so.

So much for your pathetic attempt (with absolutely zero evidence) to accuse the entire Saratov police force of corruption.

But even if this fairy tale you concocted about police passing on abandoned babies to the mob had been true, it still wouldn't have justified doing nothing. Someone who noticed the baby could have brought it to a hospital, where they are already set up to handle cases of abandoned babies. Or are Russian doctors and nurses as corrupt and tied to the mob as police?

[Sean]

Or are Russian doctors and nurses as corrupt and tied to the mob as police?

Of course they are... they're RUSSIANS!

[loCAtek]

Someone who noticed the baby could have brought it to a hospital, where they are already set up to handle cases of abandoned babies

Yet, they/he/she were;/did not: explain that one?

They feared the [corrupt] authority perhaps?

[Sean]

Perhaps they were twats who couldn't care less about the child.
Perhaps they didn't see the pram in the dark.
Perhaps they were scared of the dog.
Perhaps nobody walked through the park that night.

But no, your explanation is the only possible answer as it's the most sensationalist!

[Scooter]

Yet, they/he/she were;/did not: explain that one?

There are several explanations that make sense (see above), and one that came out of the bottom of a bottle (yours).