Warnings for us all there I think....AIUI they didn't tap the phones, they hacked in to people's mobile voicemail mailboxes. This is relatively straightforward to do if you know the network your target uses, their mobile number and you can take a guess at the security code which protects it. You access the mailbox by dialling the network's international voicemail access number. It will ask you for the number of the phone whose mailbox you want to access, and then for the security code.
Some networks seem to use a default security code so if the phone's owner hasn't changed it then that last bit is easy (let's face it, many mobile phone owners don't even bother to change the voicemail greeting).
Many phone owners will not even be aware of this alternative route to get in to their voicemail, either because they never use their phone abroad or because when they do they are on a system like Vodafone Passport which gives voicemail access via 121 and authenticates against the phone itself, same as in the UK.
UK tabloid hits a new low.
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Taken from another foum I infest;
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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All of Rupert Murdoch's empires should be shut down and killed.
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For simplicity's sake can't we just kill Murdoch?
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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Bin-dive/ Blag
As Britain descends into one of its regular bouts of self examination, it's worth asking whether the country's tabloids are really so much worse than those elsewhere. How do they stack up against rivals across the Atlantic, where the New York Post, another Murdoch property, faces a lawsuit over its claims that the maid at the center of an attempted rape case against Dominic Strauss-Kahn was a prostitute. And what about the rest of Europe?
Steven Barnett, professor of communications at Westminster University, is in no doubt that Britain's tabloids go further than any others.
"Time and time again, particularly in the last three or four years when I travel for work, I'm asked 'what is it about our tabloid press?'" he told Reuters. "Why are they so outrageous and why is nothing done about it? I think the rest of the world looks on in astonishment frankly."
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It doesn't help that the press watchdog is so weak. In Britain, the press is self-regulated by a body called the Press Complaints Commission, which can require a paper to publish its rulings on complaints against newspapers but little else. Even its gentlest critics call it toothless; one British parliamentarian this week described it as a "fishnet condom".
Given British tabloids' reputation, why the outrage over this case? It's one thing to target non-celebrities, many in the UK have noted this week, and another to go after the victims of crime and terrorism.
"Private Eye has long used the derogatory term 'hacks' to describe British journalists," said Ian Hislop, editor of Private Eye, a satirical bi-weekly magazine that has made media excesses a staple of its columns and is also a vigorous critic of Murdoch's companies. "We had no idea that under Rupert Murdoch's malign influence, so many of them would take the term literally," he told Reuters in an email.
Other democracies "every bit as strong and robust as ours" thrive without the "nauseating tabloid coverage and routine intrusion into ordinary people's private lives," said Westminster University's Barnett." In terms of the tactics that they use and the way they routinely invade people's privacy without any regard for the impact on those individuals, I think the Italians and others would still regard the British press as even below theirs. As do Americans."
As they say in my country, Boo-Yah Beaucoup! I'm wit'da Beeb beast
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Irony much?
Senior Anglicans are said to be "embarrassed" by the disclosure of the Church's links with the parent company of the News of the World.
The Church Commissioners, which manage investments on behalf of the Church of England, own almost 350,000 shares in News Corp, worth £3.8 million.
The Church's ethical investment committee has now written to Mr Murdoch calling on him to hold senior executives to account over the "gross failures of management" over phone-hacking at the News of the World.
However, members of the Church's national assembly, the General Synod, meeting in York this weekend, demanded swift action to extricate the Church from the scandal.
The Rev Canon Jonathan Alderton-Ford, a vicar in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, and a General Synod member, said: "Senior figures in the Church of England are embarrassed by this ownership.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -Corp.html
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
Re: UK tabloid hits a new low.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Now if you had the first and the last copy of NOTW you might be able to pull the prices these punters think it is worth.
Bah!
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Gee what clown thinks he can get 10 million for it when on the same page it's going for as cheap as a 1000?
Sheesh...
BTW, I can't help but notice that this scandal has spurred yet another round of Rupert Murdoch bashing...(not just here but among the liberal mainstream TV news pundits)
Gee, all these swipes at Murdoch over something he had no personal involvement with, but not one word of praise for him for shutting the paper down, (which was entirely his decision.)
I can't speak for other countries, but the visceral loathing that many on the left in this country have towards Murdoch can be attributed to one thing:
As I pointed out before, prior to the early 80's first with the advent of conservative talk radio, and then the subsequent creation and popularity of FOX News, for decades all of the major news venues in this country slanted left. Sure, there were a few conservative local papers, but all of the networks and the major national print news, (daily and weekly) to one degree or another, all of it... tilted left.
There are a lot of liberals in this country who have never gotten over the monopoly status they enjoyed over the ideological slanting of the news being lost (many of them will never of course even concede that this was the case; they have deluded themselves into believing that when all the news was slanted towards their point of view, the reporting was "objective") and who would dearly love to go back to those days. (This is why some of them are such big fans of anti-free speech concepts like the Orwellianly named "fairness doctrine")
And this bunch views Rupert Murdoch as having had a big role in ending the 100% news media bias in their favor, which is why they despise him so.
They do not of course see anything malevolent about their views on this. No, they see themselves as the folks in the white hats; they see conservative media in general and Murdoch in particular as leading the stupid masses away from supporting policies they approve of what's in there own best interests. (Which they, the intelligent enlightened liberals, are of course best positioned to determine for these ignorant unwashed)
It's a nauseatingly condescending view, but that's what it is.
Sheesh...
BTW, I can't help but notice that this scandal has spurred yet another round of Rupert Murdoch bashing...(not just here but among the liberal mainstream TV news pundits)
Gee, all these swipes at Murdoch over something he had no personal involvement with, but not one word of praise for him for shutting the paper down, (which was entirely his decision.)
I can't speak for other countries, but the visceral loathing that many on the left in this country have towards Murdoch can be attributed to one thing:
As I pointed out before, prior to the early 80's first with the advent of conservative talk radio, and then the subsequent creation and popularity of FOX News, for decades all of the major news venues in this country slanted left. Sure, there were a few conservative local papers, but all of the networks and the major national print news, (daily and weekly) to one degree or another, all of it... tilted left.
There are a lot of liberals in this country who have never gotten over the monopoly status they enjoyed over the ideological slanting of the news being lost (many of them will never of course even concede that this was the case; they have deluded themselves into believing that when all the news was slanted towards their point of view, the reporting was "objective") and who would dearly love to go back to those days. (This is why some of them are such big fans of anti-free speech concepts like the Orwellianly named "fairness doctrine")
And this bunch views Rupert Murdoch as having had a big role in ending the 100% news media bias in their favor, which is why they despise him so.
They do not of course see anything malevolent about their views on this. No, they see themselves as the folks in the white hats; they see conservative media in general and Murdoch in particular as leading the stupid masses away from supporting policies they approve of what's in there own best interests. (Which they, the intelligent enlightened liberals, are of course best positioned to determine for these ignorant unwashed)
It's a nauseatingly condescending view, but that's what it is.
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Jim, two words, "utter bullshit". Murdoch is a reprehensible creature no matter which side of the political divide you sit on.
THE Murdoch empire is under assault on new fronts, with questions over whether another senior executive suppressed evidence and misled Parliament and the revelation of an attempt to hack the phones of September 11 victims in the US.
Meanwhile, Rupert Murdoch's ambitions to buy the remaining stake in pay TV network BSkyB look likely to be dashed, with the Prime Minister, David Cameron, facing a humiliating backdown as his coalition partners say they will back a Labour motion tomorrow that would shelve the deal for years.
With more arrests and revelations expected, speculation is intensifying that the News of the World hacking and bribery allegations leave James Murdoch, as chairman of News International, open to prosecution over corporate corruption.
In the US, a former New York policeman has said News of the World reporters asked him to get the private phone records of people killed in the September 11 terrorist attacks, according to the Daily Mirror. A source quoting the officer said: ''The journalists seemed particularly interested in getting the phone records belonging to the British victims of the attacks.'' The policeman reportedly refused.
Meanwhile in Britain Rupert Murdoch's closest adviser, Les Hinton, faces questions over whether he saw an internal 2007 News International report that found phone hacking was more widespread than admitted before he told a 2007 parliamentary committee that it was done only by one rogue reporter.
The Guardian claims Mr Hinton, head of News International before James Murdoch, was one of five company executives who had access to the report. It has been described by anonymous company sources as a ''smoking gun'' and a ''ticking time-bomb''.
The legal implications of the scandal could have a global reach, with experts warning that US authorities might soon launch a corruption investigation into the claims that News of the World made more than £100,000 in payments to police officers.
The US Foreign Corrupt Practices Act forbids companies to be involved in bribery or corruption overseas. London's Telegraph reports News Corp would have to pay the cost of such an investigation, likely to be more than $US100 million, and could face a fine many times that size.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/news-is-all ... z1RqTE6WJG
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Well then, any minute now I should expect to see condemnations of him from the Conservative side of the political divide...Jim, two words, "utter bullshit". Murdoch is a reprehensible creature no matter which side of the political divide you sit on.
They'll be the first I've ever seen, but I anxiously await them....
As for that article...
I see "speculation intensifying" about Murdoch's son....
And a close associate of Murdoch's being "open to questions"....
And a scandal that "could have" global implications...
"speculation intensifying", "open to questions", and a "could have"....
Not really a whole lot to sink one's teeth into there....
Come to think of it, isn't trying to make a case against Murdoch with that sort of thin gruel pretty much the same sort of "sensationalism" that Murdoch's detractors are always carping about him engaging in?
I'm sorry but I'll stand by conclusion that the biggest thing that Murdoch's detractors dislike about him is his success.
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Plenty of condemnation from the right in the UK Jim....
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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The News of the World is dead! Long live The News of the World MkII...
The Sun On Sunday: websites now controlled by News International
Two domain names - thesunonsunday.co.uk and sunonsunday.co.uk - which were registered days before the News of the World's closure was announced are now under the control of News International, hinting at plans for a Sun On Sunday to replace the defunct paper.
The two domain names were registered on July 5 - two days before James Murdoch announced that the News of The World was to close in the wake of the phone hacking scandal.
They initially caused a flurry of suggestions that the closure was pre-planned, and that News International was planning on quickly launching a Sun on Sunday as a replacement for the axed title. But there was nothing to connect the domains to the company - according to the sites' WHOIS records (the standard check for information about the owners of a domain name) they were registered to something called 'Mediaspring' as a 'non-trading individual'.
But now News International does appear to have taken control of the domains - indicating that they may well have plans to launch the Sun on Sunday. At some point over the past few days, the WHOIS details for both the domain names changed to 'News International Newspapers Limited.'
It is not known at this stage who the original owners of the domain names were, or whether News International paid to acquire ownership of the domains.
The domains were initially registered through the domain registrar 123-reg. News International has its own 'IPS tag', meaning it is allowed to register domain names itself without going through a third-party registrar - suggesting it is highly unlikely they were behind the original registration.
A third domain, thesunonsunday.com, which was also registered on July 5 but by an apparently different individual, has not yet changed hands. Sunonsunday.com is owned by a band named Sun on Sunday, and has been registered since 2007.
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Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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The notion that the US mainstream media have been and are slanted to the left is an enduring fantasy of the right, especially of the far right. It is roughly on par with the claim that Christians are persecuted in the US. In fact, the mainstream media have been and are slanted toward conservatism -- not the radically reactionary pseudo-conservatism that has taken over the Republican part, but ordinary, largely sensible conservatism.
If the mainstream media actually were slanted to the left, every discussion of individual taxes on the evening news would include at least one reminder that the working poor pay a higher percentage of their incomes in federal taxes than do the working affluent. What hit the poor the hardest are not income taxes but payroll taxes -- the taxes that pay primarily for Social Security (and lesserly for a few other things).
If one is making $20,000 per year -- full-time work at $10 per hour -- one pays Social Security (FICA) taxes on one's entire income. But if one is making ten times that much, one pays Social Security tax (at the same rate) only on just over half of one's income. And no matter how wealthy one is when one is old, one is entitled to a Social Security check. If the mainstream media actually were slanted to the left, the question "Why should a young, working, struggling family have to pay taxes so that the government can give that money to retirees who already have more money than the young, working, struggling family?" would be a regular feature on all the networks.
If the mainstream media actually were slanted to the left, every time someone complained about taxes on small businesses, someone would be there to point out that whereas small businesses pay close to the statutory rate (there are deductions and credits and such), there are multi-billion dollar conglomerates that pay almost nothing. Ma and Pa running the corner store have to pay through the nose, while WBC company -- that's We Buy Congress, Inc. -- gets nearly a free pass. If the mainstream media actually were slanted to the left, everyone who watches the network news would hear that almost every day.
In reality, the extreme right's pretense of objectivity -- what could be more laughable than FOX's claim to be "fair and balanced"? -- although few people actually believe it, has succeeded in creating an illusory "center" which is itself substantially slanted to the right. From that standpoint, the mainstream media can be portrayed as slanted to the left.
Of course, from the twenty-yard line, one goalpost looks a lot closer than the other one ....
If the mainstream media actually were slanted to the left, every discussion of individual taxes on the evening news would include at least one reminder that the working poor pay a higher percentage of their incomes in federal taxes than do the working affluent. What hit the poor the hardest are not income taxes but payroll taxes -- the taxes that pay primarily for Social Security (and lesserly for a few other things).
If one is making $20,000 per year -- full-time work at $10 per hour -- one pays Social Security (FICA) taxes on one's entire income. But if one is making ten times that much, one pays Social Security tax (at the same rate) only on just over half of one's income. And no matter how wealthy one is when one is old, one is entitled to a Social Security check. If the mainstream media actually were slanted to the left, the question "Why should a young, working, struggling family have to pay taxes so that the government can give that money to retirees who already have more money than the young, working, struggling family?" would be a regular feature on all the networks.
If the mainstream media actually were slanted to the left, every time someone complained about taxes on small businesses, someone would be there to point out that whereas small businesses pay close to the statutory rate (there are deductions and credits and such), there are multi-billion dollar conglomerates that pay almost nothing. Ma and Pa running the corner store have to pay through the nose, while WBC company -- that's We Buy Congress, Inc. -- gets nearly a free pass. If the mainstream media actually were slanted to the left, everyone who watches the network news would hear that almost every day.
In reality, the extreme right's pretense of objectivity -- what could be more laughable than FOX's claim to be "fair and balanced"? -- although few people actually believe it, has succeeded in creating an illusory "center" which is itself substantially slanted to the right. From that standpoint, the mainstream media can be portrayed as slanted to the left.
Of course, from the twenty-yard line, one goalpost looks a lot closer than the other one ....
Reason is valuable only when it performs against the wordless physical background of the universe.
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Jim, it seems the repubbies are up for it..
Republican Congressman Peter King - who is chairman of the House homeland security committee and represents a constituency in New York that lost more then 150 people in the 9/11 attacks - called on Wednesday for an FBI inquiry.
"The thought that anyone would have hacked into the phones of either those who were killed, those who were missing, the family members, during that tragic time... is contemptible," he told the BBC on Thursday.
He declined to say whether he had any direct evidence that journalists working for News Corporation companies had sought to hack 9/11 victims' phones.
"There were allegations, I want the FBI to investigate them, I'm not making any conclusions at all," he said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14162545
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Up for what Strop?Jim, it seems the repubbies are up for it..
That's a far cry from joining the Rupert Murdoch lynch mob, which because of it's long standing loathing of the man is prepared to lunge to the conclusion that he was personally involved in approving these repulsive activities without a shred of evidence.He declined to say whether he had any direct evidence that journalists working for News Corporation companies had sought to hack 9/11 victims' phones.
"There were allegations, I want the FBI to investigate them, I'm not making any conclusions at all," he said.
Rupert Murdock is so viscerally despised in some quarters that he even served as the basis for an Uber Bad Guy in a James Bond movie....
I'm certainly not claiming that Murdoch is an angel; one doesn't get to be fabulously wealthy without being a fairly ruthless sonuvabitch, whether your name it's Rupert Murdoch, Bill Gates, George Soros, or Warren Buffett...
But that doesn't mean he's involved in this. And I find the speed with which some are willing to put the blame on him both unseemly and revealing.
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The most powerful agent of the Republican right-wing in America has his nuts in a vise.
yrs,
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...or Lord Jim...Lord Jim wrote: I'm certainly not claiming that Murdoch is an angel; one doesn't get to be fabulously wealthy without being a fairly ruthless sonuvabitch, whether your name it's Rupert Murdoch, Bill Gates, George Soros, or Warren Buffett...
Can't say I've seen anyone putting the blame directly on him Jim, not over here in any case...Lord Jim wrote:But that doesn't mean he's involved in this. And I find the speed with which some are willing to put the blame on him both unseemly and revealing.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
