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The Vatican has recalled its special envoy in Ireland after a damning report on the Catholic Church's handling of child abuse by priests.
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It showed how allegations of sex abuse by priests in Cork had been covered up.
The report led to angry condemnation of the Vatican by Prime Minister Enda Kenny in the Irish Parliament.
In a blistering attack, Mr Kenny accused the church of putting its reputation ahead of child rape victims.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14272988

Seems the catholic church is more interested in its reputation than the plight of those poor children
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Wow.

When the Irish criticise the Vatican it means that they have really fucked up...
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Deliver Us From Evil

Documentary about Father Oliver O'Grady, a Catholic priest who was relocated to various parishes around the United States during the 1970s in an attempt by the Catholic Church to cover up his rape of dozens of children.

Moving from one parish to another in Northern California during the 1970s, Father Oliver O'Grady quickly won each congregation's trust and respect. Unbeknownst to them, O'Grady was a dangerously active pedophile that Church hierarchy, aware of his predilection, had harbored for over 30 years, allowing him to abuse countless children. Juxtaposing an extended, deeply unsettling interview with O'Grady himself with the tragic stories of his victims, filmmaker Amy Berg bravely exposes the deep corruption of the Catholic Church and the troubled mind of the man they sheltered.
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The problem is that these fuckers see themselves as above the law.
A possible indication of the mood towards Ireland came in the weekend choice of words by Msgr Gianfranco Girotti, number two at the apostolic penitentiary, when he told Il Foglio newspaper the Holy See would never accept Irish legislation that might attempt to break the seal of confession. “Ireland can pass all the laws it likes but it should understand that the church will never accept the obligation on a confessor to report to civil authorities . . .”

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It will be interesting to see what happens if/when the Irish government change that legislation...
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Sick bastards
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So how many priests will be jailed for obstructing the course of justice before the fuckers change their attitude?

I really hope the Irish go through with this and as they are not exactly enamoured with the Vatican at the moment I think they just might...
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Time for a 16th century Reformation.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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It is obvious that some people within the Church still don't get it.

And yet, the Church has the power to force the entire hierarchy to take this seriously. Pastors, Monsignors, Bishops, etc., should be faced with excommunication and loss of all support if found to be negligent or complicit, or even not appropriately diligent in rooting out these people and problems.

Ironically, aside from the victims themselves, the people who are being hurt most by this organizational negligence are the priests (etc) who are clean. These are the ones who come under a cloud for no reason other than association with the Church.

The root problem is the Church's method of recruiting and training priests. It is a virtual invitation to pedophiles and other men of a perversion which shall remain nameless. The Church's insistence on confining the priesthood to unmarried males is neither scriptural nor historical, and the sooner it ends - as it inevitably will - the better it will be for everyone associated with the Church.

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dgs49 wrote: Ironically, aside from the victims themselves, the people who are being hurt most by this organizational negligence are the priests (etc) who are clean. These are the ones who come under a cloud for no reason other than association with the Church.

Well said Dave!
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