Calderon, demanded a crackdown on drugs

[Jarlaxle]

So if I read this right, the current preferred theory is: if it aint gonna get em all, make no attempt to get any of them.

I have to seriously question your ability to grasp basic concepts in the English language if you got that conclusion out of our posts. Because your conclusion is in no rational way implied by anything we've said. The super border wall is an impractical waste of money, that doesn't mean that existing border security should be completely trashed.

But you know what's hilarious about this? If President Obama did enact this super border wall? You and the rest of the Republican Party would instantly start berating him for a. not doing it soon enough and b. wasting taxpayer dollars that could be better used giving the rich another tax cut.

Not soon enough, absolutely. Wasting tax dollars? No. In fact, sealing the border is the BEST possible use I have heard lately for tax dollars!

Of course, something like a third of everything spent WILL, of course, be wasted due to cronyism, corruption, and general bureaucratic incompetence...but that's the government.

[Scooter]

So what percentage of drug traffic will be stopped as you are probing the body cavities of 335 people per minute at your two border crossings?

[Jarlaxle]

Drugs should be legalized. Someone wants to ssnort coke or shoot heroin, I don't give a shit. It would also cut the Mexican cartels off at the knees.

[Scooter]

Oh, my mistake, I thought this was a discussion about what would prevent drugs from crossing the border, seeing as how the word "drugs" (and not "illegal immigrants" or anything else) is in the topic title.

[Gob]

Let me explain to you in simple terms, as you are a simpleton.

The US, and no other place on earth has both the freedom, and the CASH to purchase the product. (drugs)

So this simple statement, made by someone so dense it's hard to believe they can tie their own shoelaces, claims that; "only people in the USA can buy these drugs."

Anyone with a functioning synapse in their head will be laughing hypercritically at that moronic pronouncement.

The rest of your post is just more stupidity, trying to deflect attention away from the fact that you've deeply embarrassed yourself again.

I don't know whether the fact that someone who claims to work for the US government can state something so mind bogglingly bizarre as this is cause for raucous laughter, or deep sadness.

You are a fucking oaf.

[Gob]

Why does the US have a large demand for drugs?

because they are illegal? no
because they cure baldness? no
because "we" can? yes. The US, and no other place on earth has both the freedom, and the CASH to purchase the product. If drugs were legal (and presumably taxed) the demand would likely grow (witness: alcohol) and someone else would benefit more.

Quoted again, in case the liar tries to claim that he never said it.

[quaddriver]

And I stand by what I said. If some other country had the freedom and cash to do such, they would compete for the market. they do not, ergo...

waiting for those facts.....

oh wait....that would be a behaviour change for you...

[Gob]

Laughable. Why should I provide facts to counter a fact free assertion. You made the claim, you back it up with facts first you fucking halfwit.


Still waiting for you to back up your assertion that no other country buys drugs from Mexico/South America

Still waiting for you to back up the assertion that Americans have the freedom to buy these drugs.

Still waiting for you to back up your assertion that Americans are the only people with enough money to afford to buy drugs.

By god you just made yourself look fucking stupid Quaddy.

[quaddriver]

"only people in the USA can buy these drugs."

.

I have always maintained that people may quote me whenever they desire.

Of course here, you attributed a quote to me that I never uttered or wrote.

In fact you did quote my entire statement (which has since been shown to be true by independant source) and minimized most of it, and enlarged some of it.

And *Im* the oaf?

methinks you are crackers. not just ordinary crackers but full blown insane. Beating on the mentally infirm at work each day must be affecting you....

[quaddriver]

Laughable. Why should I provide facts to counter a fact free assertion. You made the claim, you back it up with facts first you fucking halfwit.


Still waiting for you to back up your assertion that no other country buys drugs from Mexico/South America

Was that assertion ever made? No. I beleive the assertion was the US was by far the largest market.

Still waiting for you to back up the assertion that Americans have the freedom to buy these drugs.

I beleive when I showed that we do not close borders (sidebar: while the OP was about drug violence, the response, as I highlighted in my 4 pigeon post was about KEEPING those borders open), we do not interdict shipments and we do not persue the end users. And I will add - we only half heartedly pursue dealers. (I bet half of you who claim you use, also sell: hence dealer, and obviously not in jail) I have more than shown that we have the freedom to buy these drugs. Of course my words are not needed when we consider the US is by far the largest market. In other words Gob: fail. you have failed (again)

Still waiting for you to back up your assertion that Americans are the only people with enough money to afford to buy drugs.

didnt say we were the only people with the money to buy drugs, I said we were the only people with money to buy in the quantities involved. My exact statement was along the lines of 1/23 the worlds population, 1/6 the consumption.

I note that you have

a) not provided any facts in any post (typical and not to be unexpected)
b) not disproven any of the facts that I and I alone have cited (typical and not to be unexpected)
c) chosen to 'quote' me by using words not found in any post. (which is why I offloaded the thread because you show a propensity of editing other peoples posts for them to aid yourself in an argument)

Someone may certainly look 'fucking stupid', but 'taint me.

[Gob]

Why does the US have a large demand for drugs?

because they are illegal? no
because they cure baldness? no
because "we" can? yes. The US, and no other place on earth has both the freedom, and the CASH to purchase the product. If drugs were legal (and presumably taxed) the demand would likely grow (witness: alcohol) and someone else would benefit more.

Quoted again, in case the liar tries to claim that he never said it.

He cannot even read what is two posts above his.


Who said this (totally unsupported) Have you had a recent brain injury?


The US, and no other place on earth has both the freedom, and the CASH to purchase the product.

In order for this debate to continue would you like to retract your assertion;

The US, and no other place on earth has both the freedom, and the CASH to purchase the product.

or back it up with evidence?

What a fucking oaf.

[quaddriver]

In order for this debate to continue would you like to retract your assertion;

why would I? I said it stands. I will even post it AGAIN:

Why does the US have a large demand for drugs?

because they are illegal? no
because they cure baldness? no
because "we" can? yes. The US, and no other place on earth has both the freedom, and the CASH to purchase the product. If drugs were legal (and presumably taxed) the demand would likely grow (witness: alcohol) and someone else would benefit more.

of course, your next move will be to take parts of it and come up with:

Why does the US have a large demand for drugs?

because they are illegal? no
because they cure baldness? yes.

trolling only certain words of a persons post to bolster your failed argument is douchebag behaviour.

only you can stop yourself from being a douchebag.

do you wish to continue to be the problem? your call.

[Gob]

Why does the US have a large demand for drugs?

because they are illegal? no
because they cure baldness? no
because "we" can? yes. The US, and no other place on earth has both the freedom, and the CASH to purchase the product. If drugs were legal (and presumably taxed) the demand would likely grow (witness: alcohol) and someone else would benefit more.

Quoted again, in case the liar tries to claim that he never said it.

Can you in any way support your assertion;

The US, and no other place on earth has both the freedom, and the CASH to purchase the product.

If not, would you like to be honest and withdraw it?

[Grim Reaper]

trolling only certain words of a persons post to bolster your failed argument is douchebag behaviour.

And entering a thread and proclaiming that we're against all forms of border protection because we're not for wasting huge amounts of money on a wall that won't actually make things better isn't douchebag behavior? Oh right, because it's not trolling when you do it.

[Gob]

Stating that ; "The US, and no other place on earth has both the freedom, and the CASH to purchase the product," and refusing to substantiate it in any way, while calling on others to substantiate it, and prove a negative, certainly is.

[quaddriver]

And entering a thread and proclaiming that we're against all forms of border protection because we're not for wasting huge amounts of money on a wall that won't actually make things better isn't douchebag behavior? Oh right, because it's not trolling when you do it.

Oh looky, another douchebag!

whom I gave ample opportunity to suggest ANY form of border security, but declined.

[quaddriver]

Um Gob, quick sidebar: do you REALLY think that anyone who has read my statements in this thread REALLY give your assertion that I said what you said I did by taking only a small portion of my words?

you might not notice, but MOST, as in BY FAR of the registered posters are in fact americans. Americans who are also aware that you can and do edit other peoples posts to bolster your argument. Americans who are also aware that you can and do read their PMs back and forth. Didja ever notice that American participation in your 'The US sucks and this is why...' threads is essentially non-existant? Therefore, who exactly, you are preening for is a bit of a mystery.

My post and the words I uttered - all of them - stand.

your only hope is to edit my oringal post down to the section you wish to attribute to me.

[Sean]

Your words stand as written Quad. There is no need to edit such tripe in order to show it's ridiculous nature. What you call 'editing' was Strop posting a complete sentence which you wrote. Nothing was changed, nothing was left out. That's actually what we call 'quoting'. It was not quoted out of context either.
I suspect that you arsed it up and didn't mean it like it reads. Unfortunately you are not man enough to admit that.

This has got nothing to do with US bashing. It is merely an attempt to get you to explain or withdraw your ludicrous statement.

But I suppose I'm not an American so my opinion doesn't matter to you does it?

[oldr_n_wsr]

I am all for a fence/border between Mexico and the USA but for the primary purpose of keeping out illegal aliens. The drug problem could be solved with legalizing many of the drugs that use the southern border as thei main crossing point.

Of course, our president seems intent on not enforcing laws on illegals (bypassing congress in the meantime) but still enforcing laws on drugs.
Such are the times.

And I have still not forgiven Reagan for pardoning the illegals back in hte 80's. He set the precedent.

[dales]

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