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In hidden vaults across the country, the US government is building a stockpile of $1 coins. The hoard has topped $1.1bn - imagine a stack of coins reaching almost seven times higher than the International Space Station - and the piles have grown so large the US Federal Reserve is running out of storage space.

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Americans won't use the coins, preferring $1 notes. But the US keeps minting them anyway, and the Fed estimates it already has enough $1 coins to last the next 10 years.

And at the current rate, the inventory will grow to $2bn (£1.3bn) by 2016, the Fed estimates.

The coins began to pile up in 2007 when a law went into effect creating a new series of $1 coins commemorating dead US presidents.

Already stamped into millions of pieces of eight-gram, manganese-brass alloy are presidents no-one even remembers anymore, like Franklin Pierce, and ineffectual executives like James Buchanan, whose incompetence historians say helped lead the US to civil war.

Congress passed the law creating the coins despite evidence that Americans never liked the $1 coin in the past.

In a 2002 report, for instance, the investigative arm of Congress described "public resistance to begin using the dollar coin" despite a three-year, $67m (£42m) effort to promote the previous series.

Since the presidential coin programme began, the US government has spent an additional $30m to promote them but they still have not taken hold.

"We have tried every major idea that we can come up with, with limited success," US Mint Director Edmund Moy told a congressional panel last month.

US officials say a peculiar set of factors have hindered public acceptance of the $1 coin.

"Americans are creatures of habit," Mr Moy told Congress. "They are very used to using the bill. They're not used to using coins in regular retail transactions."

The US Mint has also identified an economic "awkward moment" in retail transactions involving the $1 coin. The buyer is afraid the cashier will reject the coin and cashiers are afraid buyers won't accept them in change, so both are disinclined to try.

Mint and Fed officials have also identified a vicious cycle.

Retailers will not stock the coins because they do not see consumers using them, while consumers will not use the coins because retailers do not stock them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10783019

The circulating British one pound (£1) coin was introduced on 21 April 1983 to replace the Bank of England one pound note, which ceased to be issued at the end of 1984 and was removed from circulation (though still redeemable at the Bank's offices) on 11 March 1988.

The Australian one dollar coin was first issued in 1984 to replace the one dollar note then in circulation, this coin seems to be the most circulated denomination in Australia.
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The $1 bill should have been eliminated ten years ago. This is idiocy.
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I used to carry $1 dollar coins in my pocket, when I rode the light rail regularly.


At the station, was the only place you could receive them as change, and have them accepted as payment. They were my 'pirate gold' ;goldish brass coins, that I called pirate gold to relieve the annoyance the vendor had about having to accept this frivolity as legal currency.

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In Canada, the Loonie ($1.00CAD) was introduced in 1987. The Toonie ($2.00CAD) came along in 1996. It makes no sense to resist moving to coins, as they last so much longer than bills, especially the most circulated lower denominations. Plus, your vending machines suck down there, with bill readers that rarely work, so you have to deposit $2.50 in quarters! :nana
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The Bank of England has announced that the new-style £50 note will be introduced on 2 November.

The design of the new note was revealed in 2009 and features entrepreneur Matthew Boulton and engineer James Watt, who pioneered the use of steam engines in textile manufacturing.

The Bank says the note will have a range of enhanced security features.

It will be the first time that two portraits will appear together on the reverse of one its banknotes.

The Boulton and Watt note will initially be circulated in tandem with the current £50 note featuring Sir John Houblon, the first governor of the Bank of England.

The Houblon note will eventually be withdrawn. The Bank will announce a withdrawal date in due course.

The design has seldom changed since it was first introduced in 1725. A white £50 was in use for more than 200 years until 1943.

There are 210 million £50 notes in circulation, valued at £10.5bn. That is 84% higher than 7 years ago.

The £20 is the most common Bank of England note in circulation, with 1.55 billion notes in circulation worth £31bn.
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I loved the Susan B. Anthony dollar and was sad to see it fall flat. I would use dollar coins, much as I use any cash - which isn't often. I'm a debit card kind of gal.

I don't understand the aversion to dollar coins. Bills get far too beaten up too easily. In these economic times, the government should be explaining to the public the cost to the taxpayer of replacing worn bills - they'd get on board.
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While were on the subject of coinage...

Why on earth does the US mint still produce the 1-cent piece, aka: the penny?

What are they good for?

Useless, IMNSHO. :arg

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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It may just be inertia, or it may be a question of jurisdiction. I know that up here, even though minting money is a federal responsibility, it would be up to each of the provinces to legislate the requirement that the prices of goods and services be rounded to the nearest nickel, so if even one province refused to get on board, the feds would still be stuck needing to make pennies. Not sure if a similar situation exists in the U.S.
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People are not comfortable with the whole rounding thing because it results in someone "wining" or "losing" and where the extra money goes. Does the business get it, does the GOVT, or does the consumer? someone looses out
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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If I had to pay 4 cents more for something, who cares?

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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