Jogging in a weighted vest can get you shot.

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"Fear and paranoia"
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Apt response in this day and age.
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Funny.
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Police overreaction.
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A case of "wise up son."
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Re: Jogging in a weighted vest can get you shot.

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This guy was a moron who failed to consider how a reasonable person would perceive the vest he was wearing. This is true no matter what his apparent ethnicity.


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Re: Jogging in a weighted vest can get you shot.

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liberty wrote:
Scooter wrote:If so, then a policeman making reference to "someone of his appearance" proved himself enough of an idiot to play into the guy's hands.

But if, as people are claiming, the appearance of the vest was so justifiably alarming as to require police intervention, then why jump to the conclusion that he placed the call, rather than some concerned racist passerby?
Scooter, the people of the Middle East are as much Caucasian (honkey) as the Europeans. So how can it be racial bigotry. They differ only buy Ethnicity and culture. People who are fixated on skin color are the worse racist of all.
Your understanding of racial and ethnic issues is so primitive that you might consider pausing and saying nothing more often.



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Re: Jogging in a weighted vest can get you shot.

Post by loCAtek »

Gob wrote:
Scooter wrote:Fine, I surrender, our civil liberties mean nothing, the fact that the police admit that race had a part to play in stopping this guy means nothing,
It means something, it means the police were acting sensibly.
Yes, of course. In the States, it's called 'Probable Cause', which allows the police to question and search a person if they are displaying weapons.
The weapons do not have to brandished in a threatening manner; just having a hunting knife in the back seat of your car, is probable cause for law enforcement to question you about having it out openly like that.

The weapons do not have to be real or lethal, since many armed robberies are done with toy guns, or fake swords.

Obviously, the exercise vest looked like a weapon at first glance, and the gentleman was not jogging, but walking;
Superintendent Amanda Pearson, of Thames Valley Police, said: 'Police received a call from a member of the public who was concerned about a man walking in Southfield Road, with what he thought was a vest which may have contained explosives.
So we have the picture of a man not jogging, not in regular sports attire, and openly carrying what appears to be a IED.

When it was reported, the police handled this incident correctly ...BTW when was anyone shot?
In United States criminal law, probable cause is the standard by which an officer or agent of the law has the grounds to make an arrest, to conduct a personal or property search, or to obtain a warrant for arrest, etc. when criminal charges are being considered. It is also used to refer to the standard to which a grand jury believes that a crime has been committed. This term comes from the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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