December 7th 1941
December 7th 1941
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
Re: December 7th 1941
'We promise to remember the Seventh of December'
...I love 40's Big Band Music
...but seriously, more and more folks are letting the memory fade. A few years ago, a friend of mine and her kids were watching that silly Adam Sadler movie, 'Little Nicky' which has a scene with Adolf Hilter being taunted by The Devil. The kids were 11 - 12 maybe, and they asked, "Who's he?"
The bet quicky answer I could give was, "Well, you know who Saddam Hussein is?"
"Yeah"
"He was a terrible dictator like him."
Maybe that's a little young, but by the time I was in Middle School, I was learning the history of WWII. Shoot, I have relatives who served in the Pacific, and knew a Japanese shopkeeper who wore a number tattooed on his arm.
And kids these days don't know their history, unless it's in a Hollywierd movie or part of a Video Game?
...I love 40's Big Band Music
...but seriously, more and more folks are letting the memory fade. A few years ago, a friend of mine and her kids were watching that silly Adam Sadler movie, 'Little Nicky' which has a scene with Adolf Hilter being taunted by The Devil. The kids were 11 - 12 maybe, and they asked, "Who's he?"
The bet quicky answer I could give was, "Well, you know who Saddam Hussein is?"
"Yeah"
"He was a terrible dictator like him."
Maybe that's a little young, but by the time I was in Middle School, I was learning the history of WWII. Shoot, I have relatives who served in the Pacific, and knew a Japanese shopkeeper who wore a number tattooed on his arm.
And kids these days don't know their history, unless it's in a Hollywierd movie or part of a Video Game?
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I blame the STUPID parents and the ineffectual schools for not teaching history.
Both my kids know about December 7th 1941....I drilled it into their heads.
The US should never be caught with their pants down agian.....NEVER!
btw: thanks Loca for responding, I know you were in the See Bees and my old man and grandfather wee in the US Navy during WW2.
Both my kids know about December 7th 1941....I drilled it into their heads.
The US should never be caught with their pants down agian.....NEVER!
btw: thanks Loca for responding, I know you were in the See Bees and my old man and grandfather wee in the US Navy during WW2.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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Amazing Dales! the Navy was an extremely dangerous job, back then.
A trip to the Arizona Memorial, the USS Missouri, USS Bowfin Submarine Museum & Park and the World War II Valor in the Pacific National Monument, should be one of those things everyone should see at least once in their lifetime. (Don't worry, they're all in the same place.) Real incredible information about all aspects of the War in the Pacific; and what I appreciate is they speak of Admiral Yamamoto very honorably.
Not a lot of people know it, but there is a USS Utah Memorial on the other side of Ford Island, where you can see the hull of the ship, right where she sank.
Unfortuantely, it's not open to the public, since it's on the working side of the island but you can see it in the movie Pearl Harbor, that's the real Utah they filmed on. It may be on the Ford Island tours, by now, I'm not sure.
Many of my watches included guarding the Ford Island bridge; which was serious business, we were fully armed up. (So, don't even think of trying anything.)
...but I tried to have fun with it. The bus tours have to stop at the guard gate, before being allowed to cross over the bridge, and the bus drivers loved it, if I was in charge. They'd be talking about the sights and the history to the tourists, as they rode in on one of those 'wall-less' couches ...which made them easier to search. Yes, we have to do that now, deal with it. So, like I said, I tried to make it fun for everybody. The couch would roll up, with the driver explaining, 'Nahw, we have to stop fah da US Navy..." and I'd announce:
"The US Navy welcomes you to Ford Island, but before you come aboard, we have to make sure there are no bad guys on the bus ...if you are a bad guy, please raise your hand ...no? Good, no one has to be swimming home today! Please, stand by while we do our check."
Great pics on MSNBC
A trip to the Arizona Memorial, the USS Missouri, USS Bowfin Submarine Museum & Park and the World War II Valor in the Pacific National Monument, should be one of those things everyone should see at least once in their lifetime. (Don't worry, they're all in the same place.) Real incredible information about all aspects of the War in the Pacific; and what I appreciate is they speak of Admiral Yamamoto very honorably.
Not a lot of people know it, but there is a USS Utah Memorial on the other side of Ford Island, where you can see the hull of the ship, right where she sank.
Unfortuantely, it's not open to the public, since it's on the working side of the island but you can see it in the movie Pearl Harbor, that's the real Utah they filmed on. It may be on the Ford Island tours, by now, I'm not sure.
Many of my watches included guarding the Ford Island bridge; which was serious business, we were fully armed up. (So, don't even think of trying anything.)
...but I tried to have fun with it. The bus tours have to stop at the guard gate, before being allowed to cross over the bridge, and the bus drivers loved it, if I was in charge. They'd be talking about the sights and the history to the tourists, as they rode in on one of those 'wall-less' couches ...which made them easier to search. Yes, we have to do that now, deal with it. So, like I said, I tried to make it fun for everybody. The couch would roll up, with the driver explaining, 'Nahw, we have to stop fah da US Navy..." and I'd announce:
"The US Navy welcomes you to Ford Island, but before you come aboard, we have to make sure there are no bad guys on the bus ...if you are a bad guy, please raise your hand ...no? Good, no one has to be swimming home today! Please, stand by while we do our check."
Great pics on MSNBC
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My grandad fought during the Battle of Layete Gulf, he was a Commader in the USN for which he received the Bronze Star.
He died before I was born.
The old man was in the USN in North Africa (Oran).....he didn't talk much of it.
THANKS TO ALL WHO SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES DURING WW2...SO THAT WE MAY ENJOY THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE TODAY
He died before I was born.
The old man was in the USN in North Africa (Oran).....he didn't talk much of it.
THANKS TO ALL WHO SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES DURING WW2...SO THAT WE MAY ENJOY THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE TODAY
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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I could not agree more, dales.
yrs,
rubato
yrs,
rubato
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Thanks, rubato.
Regardless of policitical/social leanings, we owe those who sacrficed all they had to give...indeed the "Greatest Generation".
Regardless of policitical/social leanings, we owe those who sacrficed all they had to give...indeed the "Greatest Generation".
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
Re: December 7th 1941
Indeed, I take my ballcap off to them....
Amén, Gran'po te amo.
Amén, Gran'po te amo.
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I second that emotion...THANKS TO ALL WHO SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES DURING WW2...SO THAT WE MAY ENJOY THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE TODAY
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Absolutely, Dales.
I really want to go to Hawaii, not just for the beaches and volcanoes, but to get to Pearl.
I really want to go to Hawaii, not just for the beaches and volcanoes, but to get to Pearl.
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
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Well said dales. Add my eternal gratitude.dales wrote: THANKS TO ALL WHO SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES DURING WW2...SO THAT WE MAY ENJOY THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE TODAY
Personally, I don’t believe in bros before hoes, or hoes before bros. There needs to be a balance. A homie-hoe-stasis, if you will.
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Whenever I visit the Memorial, I make it a point to read, each and every name on the Wall.dales wrote: THANKS TO ALL WHO SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES DURING WW2...SO THAT WE MAY ENJOY THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE TODAY
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Probably the most beautiful military hymn ever composed.
Thanks to all who sacrificed their lives. And thanks also to those who would have, but were not called upon to do so.
Thanks to all who sacrificed their lives. And thanks also to those who would have, but were not called upon to do so.
Reason is valuable only when it performs against the wordless physical background of the universe.
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Re: December 7th 1941
btw if I am not mistaken, the opening pic (one of the most iconic of the attack) was the destroyer shaw going up when its magazines caught. It was later fixed, refit, refloated and served
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I saw that story earlier this week, and meant to post about it but I got busy and forgot....
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The one on the right is the team captain for their "tug of war" squad.
yrs,
rubato
yrs,
rubato
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Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is