What we wanted for Xmas 1976

Crackpot · Post by **Crackpot** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:53 pm

that gives Hair metal way too much cred.

Sean · Post by **Sean** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:56 pm

Good point, well made.

Gob · Post by **Gob** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:46 am

I'll make it easy for him.

Quaddy you said;

VH's arrival in 78 sparked the same worldwide change of pace that other artists did, like Dylan with Highway 61 revistied,[sic] Zep with 1, Pearl Jam with 10",

Completing any of these will be an answer to the question I have put to you for five pages now; "what was this change of pace"?

Just fill in the blanks.

Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, this can be seen in the way they

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Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, this is reflected in the musical genre known as

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Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, they became known as the originators of

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Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, they were recognised for this by the awarding of

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Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, they are now known for introducing

....................................................................................................................... into the repertoire of pop/rock music.

Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, they did this by being the first band to

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Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, they created a new and original

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All you have to do is complete ONE sentence.

But seeing as your "proof" of this has so far been; "they were a good band with a great guitarist, and must be brilliant cos I like them," I'm not holding out much hope.

No one disputes that Van Halen were a good band, original even. No one disputes taht Eddie VH is a great and clever guitarist. However they made no "change of pace" equivalent to Highway 61, they made no great changes to music at all in fact. They produced quality pop metal/hair metal/ cock rock, and wrote middle of the road, unthreatening, catchy pop/metal, which fitted with the late 70’s/ early80’s enough to sell hugely.

Crackpot · Post by **Crackpot** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:17 am

Gob Lay off your heavy periods it's giving you a wide ass

Gob · Post by **Gob** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:18 am

Crackpot wrote:Gob Lay off your heavy periods it's giving you a wide ass

LOL!! I'll narrow them for the screen challenged...

Sue U · Post by **Sue U** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:27 am

Crackpot wrote:who brought the spandex and mascara?

They weren't the first, but they wore it the best:

dales · Post by **dales** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:28 am

Sean wrote:
Crackpot wrote:who brought the spandex and mascara?
Satan.

ROTFLMAO!

Gob · Post by **Gob** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:35 am

Sue U wrote:
Crackpot wrote:who brought the spandex and mascara?
They weren't the first, but they wore it the best:

Nope!

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:42 am

Sue U wrote:
Crackpot wrote:who brought the spandex and mascara?
They weren't the first, but they wore it the best:

Were they intending to look like drag queens?

Jarlaxle · Post by **Jarlaxle** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:14 am

Probably not.

For 70's, screw Van Halen...I'll take...

10/11/74

5/19/76

9/29/77

10/12/78

and

3/12/80 (close enough)

quaddriver · Post by **quaddriver** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:19 am

Gob wrote:
quaddriver wrote:Again, proof the Gob does not read, or bother to read. He didnt even get *a* quote, let alone *the quote* about the album right. what he claims to have read in the book on the section about the VH debut album, is acutally not in there. Why not put in the whole and proper quote Gob? Oh thats right, it says what I have been saying. Cant have that.

101 albums that changed popular music; Van Halen So, my quote is there for all to see.

yuuup, and we can see that you did not in fact quote the book. And we can also see you in fact do not own the book.

I've given him a pass on his silly "punk rock didn't become popular until the 80's" nonsense, even he's to embarrassed to try to bullshit his way out of that.

you mean same book that mentions the 1980 release of the clash album, finally putting punk on the map? of course not.

I still see that you have not cited a single source that has refuted what I and many others have said, nearly word for word. Do you plan on actually doing that at any point? A simple yes or no will suffice.

I didnt expect you would, but watching you thrash is almost like a train wreck.

quaddriver · Post by **quaddriver** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:21 am

Gob wrote:Bad enough debating with someone who point blank refuses to substantiate his claims, !

I agree so I ask for the second time: at any point do you plan on showing any evidence to back up your assertions or at least counter mine and the many sources I have cited? (out of hundreds I could have chosen, it should have been embarrassing enuf when I quoted one of your countryman agreeing with me. nearly word. for. word.

The Hen · Post by **The Hen** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:23 am

Anyone who thinks that punk started in the eighties is obviously American.

Sue U · Post by **Sue U** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:25 am

Scooter wrote:Were they intending to look like drag queens?

They certainly borrowed heavily from the drag aesthetic, but the idea was to be men in make-up and hair-dos, rather than men-as-women drag queens or the more "arty" androgynizers and gender-benders (like Bowie).

Gob, don't get me wrong, I love Roxy Music (was just blasting Greatest Hits while cleaning house on Saturday), but the Dolls totally kicked ass.

Sue U · Post by **Sue U** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:27 am

The Hen wrote:Anyone who thinks that punk started in the eighties is obviously American.

Or with The Ramones.

Gob · Post by **Gob** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:28 am

quaddriver wrote:
I agree so I ask for the second time: at any point do you plan on showing any evidence to back up your assertions or at least counter mine and the many sources I have cited? (out of hundreds I could have chosen, it should have been embarrassing enuf when I quoted one of your countryman agreeing with me. nearly word. for. word.

You have cited no sources to back up your claim, you obviously have not a clue what to cite means, I'll try again;

VH's arrival in 78 sparked the same worldwide change of pace that other artists did, like Dylan with Highway 61 revistied,[sic] Zep with 1, Pearl Jam with 10",

Completing any of these will be an answer to the question I have put to you for five pages now; "what was this change of pace"?

Just fill in the blanks.

Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, this can be seen in the way they

..................................................................................................................................................

Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, this is reflected in the musical genre known as

.................................................................................................................................................

Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, they became known as the originators of

.................................................................................................................................................

Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, they were recognised for this by the awarding of

.................................................................................................................................................

Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, they are now known for introducing

....................................................................................................................... into the repertoire of pop/rock music.

Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, they did this by being the first band to

.................................................................................................................................................

Van Halen's arrival in 78 sparked a worldwide change of pace in music, of a magnitude equivalent to Highway 61 revisited, they created a new and original

.................................................................................................................................................

All you have to do is complete ONE sentence.

quaddriver · Post by **quaddriver** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:30 am

The Hen wrote:Anyone who thinks that punk started in the eighties is obviously American.

I dont think anyone did other than Dales.

I think it was me who first mentioned a mid70's punk band, on the US side.

But it was me who pointed out that the Clash finally made it legit and not hole in the wall tiny clubs with no following.

Gob · Post by **Gob** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:33 am

quaddriver wrote: But it was me who pointed out that the Clash finally made it legit and not hole in the wall tiny clubs with no following.

Qualify "legit".

Sue U · Post by **Sue U** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:45 am

The Clash's 1980 album (London Calling) pretty much marked the end (not the beginning) of punk rock; it was their cross-over pop-rock/reggae/ska album. By that time, the old school punk rockers were transitioning into hardcore and some more experimental stuff (Black Flag, Butthole Surfers) while the clubs were going with "new wave" acts to bring in the weekend party bucks. By 1980, punk had become more of a fashion statement than a musical/cultural movement.

I know, 'cause I was there.

dales · Post by **dales** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:50 am

quaddriver wrote:
The Hen wrote:Anyone who thinks that punk started in the eighties is obviously American.
I dont think anyone did other than Dales.

Never posted what you said I posted.

Never got what I wanted for xmas 1976, either.

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