What we wanted for Xmas 1976
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I am so tempted to try to get that name out of you
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Sean wrote:Finally, thanks to Gob for sticking up for The Bestest Band Ever In The History Of The Whole World (TM) and good luck if you try to convince anyone who your source is!
Fuck me! You got hold of Otway and Barrat?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
You're telling us you played guitar on Zep 1 Sean?!?!Pagey was so bad during those sessions that in the end his guitar parts were overdubbed by a brain damaged baboon to make it acceptable for release
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Cheeky fucker! That's very insulting...
...to the baboon of course.
...to the baboon of course.
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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Heh, at least you didn't remind me of how old your weren't, and I was, when that was recorded....
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Damn your interrogative powers CP.Crackpot wrote:I am so tempted to try to get that name out of you
Okay, okay... It's Elvis Presley. He works in a chipshop here.
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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I didn't need to... You dropped yourself into that one!Gob wrote:Heh, at least you didn't remind me of how old your weren't, and I was, when that was recorded....
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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Sean wrote:Damn your interrogative powers CP.Crackpot wrote:I am so tempted to try to get that name out of you
Okay, okay... It's Elvis Presley. He works in a chipshop here.
Kirsty McColl is a waitresss there.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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[quote="Gob']Communication breakdown: Nicked the ostinato from Eddie Cochran's "Nervous Breakdown"
nice dodge. Page was inspired by the other song. Nicked: v. aus in origin, means: not the same, not even similar.
the song was written while touring as the new yardbirds.
as you stated:
mainly: most
this song is not a blues standard. this song is not left over from the yardbirds. 1 down.
Good times bad times: original.
as you stated:
this song is not a blues standard. this song is not left over from the yardbirds. 2 down.
Your time is going to come: Based on a Bach fugue played by Jones
Based on nothing of the sort. Even beginner players recognize that the opening melody is clearly inspired by 'babe im gonna leave you'. this was written while all 4 members were in the new yardbirds. It was never played by the yardbirds. It was never covered live by zep.
this song is not a blues standard. this song is not left over from the yardbirds. 3 down.
How many more times: Ripped off from "How many more years" by Howlin Wolf, includes snatches from Albert King's"The Hunter." The bass riff is taken from The Yardbirds reworking of "Smokestack Lightening" (Also has some riffs from Kisses Sweeter than Wine", Jimmy Rodgers, bizarre.)
Only if 'ripped off' means once again inspired by. And it was not the bass riff, it was his riff.
At any rate it is not a blues standard and it was not performed in the yardbirds. 4 down
Babe I'm going to leave you: Reworking of a traditional tune, Joan Baez used a fair bit, originally recreated by A Bredon.
this song is not a blues standard. this song is not left over from the yardbirds. 5 down.
Dazed and Confused: Written by Jake Holmes, originally played with Relf and McCarty in The Yardbirds, a highlight of The Yardbirds show, credited to "Jake Holmes arranged by The Yardbirds" on the "Little Games" CD
No such thing. The song Holmes wrote was 'Im confused' (as are you hehe heh) and it inspired the song. the completely reworked song with different lyrics and bow portions was played in one show, but this is a page song with no yardbirds credit and it most certainly was NOT released on little games OR the 93 re-release with the bonus cd. IIRC Holmes did file a suit a couple years ago, but I do not know the outcome and am not going to look it up.
this is not a blues standard. this is not a yardbirds song, but was performed by them when page presented it. I will give half credit (but should deduct for the little games reference) 6 down
Black Mountain Slide: Reworking of Page's Yardbirds number "White Summer." Also borrows from Bert Jansch (one of my favourite folk guitarists, ) "Black Water Slide". Legal clearance for it to be included on the album took ages to get .
Cmon Gob, try? It is Black mountain SIDE and it is not a reworking of the White summer, it is a separate song. And it was inspired (not copied or covered) from an old irish song DOWN BY Black water side, which was covered by Jansch, but it was not even this version PAge was inspired from. it came from Mr Year of the Cat (Im not spoon feeding you anymore)
It is not a blues standard. It is not a yardbirds song although it will later in concert and much later be put on album (I claim the first 'zep set' since the BBC sessions albums were released much much later) 7 down
I can't quit you baby: Willy Dixon. This and "You shook me" were released by Jeff Beck around that time, Page has been accused of nicking stuff from him for these tracks.
I have already noted that these 2 songs are in fact 'blues standards'
did I leave any out. and here is the sad part, I just got back from a trip,saw this and responded from memory. Im betting Im correct. You had all day and got it wrong. I told you not to mess with the big dog.
nice dodge. Page was inspired by the other song. Nicked: v. aus in origin, means: not the same, not even similar.
the song was written while touring as the new yardbirds.
as you stated:
Zep 1 was mainly left overs from Page's stint in the Yardbrirds, and reworking of blues standards.
mainly: most
this song is not a blues standard. this song is not left over from the yardbirds. 1 down.
Good times bad times: original.
as you stated:
Zep 1 was mainly left overs from Page's stint in the Yardbrirds, and reworking of blues standards.
this song is not a blues standard. this song is not left over from the yardbirds. 2 down.
Your time is going to come: Based on a Bach fugue played by Jones
Based on nothing of the sort. Even beginner players recognize that the opening melody is clearly inspired by 'babe im gonna leave you'. this was written while all 4 members were in the new yardbirds. It was never played by the yardbirds. It was never covered live by zep.
this song is not a blues standard. this song is not left over from the yardbirds. 3 down.
How many more times: Ripped off from "How many more years" by Howlin Wolf, includes snatches from Albert King's"The Hunter." The bass riff is taken from The Yardbirds reworking of "Smokestack Lightening" (Also has some riffs from Kisses Sweeter than Wine", Jimmy Rodgers, bizarre.)
Only if 'ripped off' means once again inspired by. And it was not the bass riff, it was his riff.
At any rate it is not a blues standard and it was not performed in the yardbirds. 4 down
Babe I'm going to leave you: Reworking of a traditional tune, Joan Baez used a fair bit, originally recreated by A Bredon.
this song is not a blues standard. this song is not left over from the yardbirds. 5 down.
Dazed and Confused: Written by Jake Holmes, originally played with Relf and McCarty in The Yardbirds, a highlight of The Yardbirds show, credited to "Jake Holmes arranged by The Yardbirds" on the "Little Games" CD
No such thing. The song Holmes wrote was 'Im confused' (as are you hehe heh) and it inspired the song. the completely reworked song with different lyrics and bow portions was played in one show, but this is a page song with no yardbirds credit and it most certainly was NOT released on little games OR the 93 re-release with the bonus cd. IIRC Holmes did file a suit a couple years ago, but I do not know the outcome and am not going to look it up.
this is not a blues standard. this is not a yardbirds song, but was performed by them when page presented it. I will give half credit (but should deduct for the little games reference) 6 down
Black Mountain Slide: Reworking of Page's Yardbirds number "White Summer." Also borrows from Bert Jansch (one of my favourite folk guitarists, ) "Black Water Slide". Legal clearance for it to be included on the album took ages to get .
Cmon Gob, try? It is Black mountain SIDE and it is not a reworking of the White summer, it is a separate song. And it was inspired (not copied or covered) from an old irish song DOWN BY Black water side, which was covered by Jansch, but it was not even this version PAge was inspired from. it came from Mr Year of the Cat (Im not spoon feeding you anymore)
It is not a blues standard. It is not a yardbirds song although it will later in concert and much later be put on album (I claim the first 'zep set' since the BBC sessions albums were released much much later) 7 down
I can't quit you baby: Willy Dixon. This and "You shook me" were released by Jeff Beck around that time, Page has been accused of nicking stuff from him for these tracks.
I have already noted that these 2 songs are in fact 'blues standards'
did I leave any out. and here is the sad part, I just got back from a trip,saw this and responded from memory. Im betting Im correct. You had all day and got it wrong. I told you not to mess with the big dog.
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Im not sure exactly what your post is to mean, a live version of a 'song' from the debut album, 10x longer with lots of improv at a concert neither you and I attended.Sean wrote:quaddriver wrote: As another writer I linked in showed: it was for the first time speed, AND accuracy, when to this point we had speed and mistakes (Page comes immediately to mind - are there ANY takes with no mistakes in it?) which begat nuno from extreme as a PERFECT example.
LMAO - You think every note in there is clean and none are fluffed? Maybe you don't have much of an ear for this guitar lark after all...
So Im supposed to have an ear for what? not following. Its in 320p so the video is bad, the audio codec is 96bits so its not even listenable. Is there a particular time section you want me to listen to what? this means what to the released recording or any of the other 1000 times this was played?
btw - the post you followed this up with from your 'friend' and what he said about page, any two notes, 3 wrong. Hyperbole aside you will note that above, I said it FIRST. So much for refuting me....
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No, you don't follow when it doesn't suit you do you?quaddriver wrote:Im not sure exactly what your post is to mean, a live version of a 'song' from the debut album, 10x longer with lots of improv at a concert neither you and I attended.
So Im supposed to have an ear for what? not following. Its in 320p so the video is bad, the audio codec is 96bits so its not even listenable. Is there a particular time section you want me to listen to what? this means what to the released recording or any of the other 1000 times this was played?
Really? Not listenable? You honestly can't tell the fluffed notes from the clear ones? Wow! Ask a muso what I mean by 'having an ear'...
LMFAO - That is pure GOLD! You truly wouldn't recognise sarcasm/humour if it bit you in the arse would you?btw - the post you followed this up with from your 'friend' and what he said about page, any two notes, 3 wrong. Hyperbole aside you will note that above, I said it FIRST. So much for refuting me....
Did you believe the bit about the baboon too?And the secret is finally out, old can’t-string-two-notes-together-without-fucking-three-of-them-up-Pagey was so bad during those sessions that in the end his guitar parts were overdubbed by a brain damaged baboon to make it acceptable for release.
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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I never would have imagined that the longest thread here would end up being about a man crush (or some deeper feeling, perhaps) for Eddie Van Halen
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ok, again, I dont follow, you find a youtube video today that you had never seen before, that until this evening I had never seen, and using it and a very obvious mistake in the first 20 seconds, that is to judge my* comments on an album as shown in previous posts, one considered to once again changed everything?Sean wrote:No, you don't follow when it doesn't suit you do you?quaddriver wrote:Im not sure exactly what your post is to mean, a live version of a 'song' from the debut album, 10x longer with lots of improv at a concert neither you and I attended.
So Im supposed to have an ear for what? not following. Its in 320p so the video is bad, the audio codec is 96bits so its not even listenable. Is there a particular time section you want me to listen to what? this means what to the released recording or any of the other 1000 times this was played?
Really? Not listenable? You honestly can't tell the fluffed notes from the clear ones? Wow! Ask a muso what I mean by 'having an ear'...
LMFAO - That is pure GOLD! You truly wouldn't recognise sarcasm/humour if it bit you in the arse would you?btw - the post you followed this up with from your 'friend' and what he said about page, any two notes, 3 wrong. Hyperbole aside you will note that above, I said it FIRST. So much for refuting me....
Did you believe the bit about the baboon too?And the secret is finally out, old can’t-string-two-notes-together-without-fucking-three-of-them-up-Pagey was so bad during those sessions that in the end his guitar parts were overdubbed by a brain damaged baboon to make it acceptable for release.
(* = actually, there were no comments by me on the song you hilighted. I, and others did state that van halen is very techincal and precise - are you saying we are all wrong now? not following....)
as for page, I never claimed technical perfection for him. I said quote the opposite, so please explain the quote and how this deals with the conversation?
at any rate, your friend didnt disagree, as I noted neither have you. It would appear that you both recognize there are too many critics, writers, producers and artists on record stating the album 'changed everything' (that phrase again)
I have not even begun to list the bands abd guitarists who claim VH as an influence. And when I do, you will note that they compromise the bulk of the 1980s concert ticket sales and album sales
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and we can continue to ascribe to me things I never said or implied.Scooter wrote:I never would have imagined that the longest thread here would end up being about a man crush (or some deeper feeling, perhaps) for Eddie Van Halen
recognizing fact and reporting it is not a 'man crush' as you listed it. although if you read what angus said, Im not so sure.
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Here's some REAL guitar playing.....now shaddup!
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
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Dales
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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Agreed Dales!
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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You claimed that EVH was: "for the first time speed, AND accuracy, when to this point we had speed and mistakes". I showed you a video which demonstrated this remark for the bullshit that it was. It's not my fault that you cannot hear what is there.quaddriver wrote: ok, again, I dont follow, you find a youtube video today that you had never seen before, that until this evening I had never seen, and using it and a very obvious mistake in the first 20 seconds, that is to judge my* comments on an album as shown in previous posts, one considered to once again changed everything?
(* = actually, there were no comments by me on the song you hilighted. I, and others did state that van halen is very techincal and precise - are you saying we are all wrong now? not following....)
Are you seriously that dumb? You read the, "can’t-string-two-notes-together-without-fucking-three-of-them-up-Pagey", quip as serious and are using it as evidence to back up your shite?as for page, I never claimed technical perfection for him. I said quote the opposite, so please explain the quote and how this deals with the conversation?
Actually I think if you try reading for comprehension that my friend disagreed completely. The words, "I don’t think that a single album has such a great effect as many people think", would appear to support this...at any rate, your friend didnt disagree, as I noted neither have you. It would appear that you both recognize there are too many critics, writers, producers and artists on record stating the album 'changed everything' (that phrase again)
LMAO - And there was a great amount of musical taste demonstrated in the '80s wasn't there*...I have not even begun to list the bands abd guitarists who claim VH as an influence. And when I do, you will note that they compromise the bulk of the 1980s concert ticket sales and album sales
*For the slow, (Read: Quaddy) that was sarcasm.
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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Oh god, reading Quaddy's replies to this, and knowing who Sean mailed and quoted, is so fucking funny it's hurting...
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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quaddriver wrote:[gob wrote:Zep 1 was mainly left overs from Page's stint in the Yardbrirds, and reworking of blues standards.
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Fat boy then goes on to prove me right.
You couldn't make this stuff up!!!
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”