Pakistan cricketers Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif have been found guilty of their part in a "spot-fixing" scam after a trial at Southwark Crown Court.
Former captain Butt, 27, and fast bowler Asif, 28, were both found guilty of conspiracy to cheat and conspiracy to accept corrupt payments.
They plotted to deliberately bowl no-balls during a Lord's Test match against England last summer.
Another bowler, Mohammad Amir, admitted the charges prior to the trial.
The guilty pleas by the bowler, who was 18 when the scam took place, could not be reported before.
The jury was not told of these pleas.
BBC sport news correspondent James Pearce says all three are facing the prospect of jail terms.
Conspiracy to accept corrupt payments carries a maximum prison term of seven years.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15538516
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“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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A wicked pitch it was.
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Should have got longer.Former Pakistan cricket captain Salman Butt has been jailed for 30 months for his part in the conspiracy to bowl deliberate no-balls in last year's Test match against England.
Former world number two Test bowler Mohammad Asif, 28, was jailed for one year and bowler Mohammad Amir, 19, has been sentenced to six months.
Cricket agent Mazhar Majeed was jailed for two years and eight months.
Knowing when no-balls will be bowled can be of great value in betting scams.
The judge, Mr Justice Cooke, said cricket matches would forever be tainted by the scandal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15573463
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Gob wrote: Should have got longer.
Bloody rubbish!
Pakistan cricketer Mohammad Amir has been released from jail after serving half of a six-month sentence for his part in a fixing scam.
The 19-year-old was released from Portland Prison in Dorset on Wednesday morning.
In November, Amir and team-mates Salman Butt and Mohammad Asif were jailed for a plot to bowl deliberate no balls in a Test match against England in 2010.
All three players were also given five-year playing bans
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16844004
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Are you arguing with yer self now?
Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is
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Not unless Hen wants to join in...
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Would it be possible to explain what a "no ball" is and how fore-knowledge could unfairly advantage a bettor?
Briefly.
Briefly.
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I think it's obvious Dave:
Obviously, he was conspiring to deliberately bowl in a cowardly, timid, and unmanly way.....conspiracy to bowl deliberate no-balls
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Dave; a no ball occurs when the person bowling oversteps the bowling line.
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"Knowing when no-balls will be bowled can be of great value in betting scams."
That's what I don't understand. If it's a "no ball," does play stop? Does the result not count? If so, what difference would it make to a bettor?
Sorry to be so ignorant, but I'm curious.
That's what I don't understand. If it's a "no ball," does play stop? Does the result not count? If so, what difference would it make to a bettor?
Sorry to be so ignorant, but I'm curious.
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No worries dave.
If a no ball is bowled, the batting side get one run added to their tally, and the ball is bowled again.
If runs are scored off a no ball, they count.
If the batsman is "out" off a no ball, (eg if the ball strikes the wicket, or is played and caught, ) that "out" does not count and the batsman stays in.
In terms off betting, no balls should be a random error, so betting on which over (group of six bowled balls) they occur in should be a random event which someone could place a bet on.
If a no ball is bowled, the batting side get one run added to their tally, and the ball is bowled again.
If runs are scored off a no ball, they count.
If the batsman is "out" off a no ball, (eg if the ball strikes the wicket, or is played and caught, ) that "out" does not count and the batsman stays in.
In terms off betting, no balls should be a random error, so betting on which over (group of six bowled balls) they occur in should be a random event which someone could place a bet on.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Here's a video of one of the "no balls."
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There can be lots of other reasons too...Gob wrote:Dave; a no ball occurs when the person bowling oversteps the bowling line.
An umpire will rule a no ball under any of the following conditions:
Illegal action by the bowler
Illegal action by a fielder
- If the bowler bowls without some part of the front foot either grounded or in the air behind the popping crease
If the bowler bowls with the back foot not wholly inside the return crease.
If the bowler bowls more than one ball above the head height in a over.
If the bowler throws, rather than bowls, the ball. (See bowling for an explanation.)
If the bowler changes the arm with which he bowls without notifying the umpire.
If the bowler changes the side of the wicket from which he bowls without notifying the umpire.
If the bowler bowls underarm unless this style of delivery is agreed before the match.
If the bowler throws the ball towards the striker's wicket before entering the "delivery stride".
If the ball does not touch the ground in its flight between the wickets and reaches the batsman at a height above either his waist when delivered by a fast bowler (this delivery is called a 'Beamer') or the shoulder when delivered by a slow bowler.
If the ball bounces more than twice, or rolls along the ground, before reaching the popping crease at the striker's end. However, the ECB has ruled that in certain competitions in England the ball is only allowed to bounce once.
If the ball comes to rest in front of the line of the striker's wicket.
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- If the wicket keeper moves any part of his person in front of the line of the stumps before either a) the ball strikes the batsman's person or bat; or b) the ball passes the line of the stumps.
If a fielder (not including bowler) has any part of their body grounded or in the air over the pitch.
If there are more than two fielders that are on the leg side and behind the batsman's crease.
Under certain playing conditions, further restrictions apply to the placement of fielders. For example in One Day International cricket, there can be no more than five fielders a) on the on side; and b) outside the 30m circle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_ball
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FFS Sean, I had an American interested in cricket, don't make it too complex for the buggers! 
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I'm just helping Jim to get the Roger Ramjet theme tune out of his brain... 
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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I've now won First Prize for having posted the most useful information in this thread....
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OK, thanks for the clarification, guys.
May I make a point about the physics of it?
I submit that a major league baseball pitcher is able to throw the ball just as fast from a standing position (e.g., 90-100mph) as a cricket bowler is able to throw it with his run-up. So why not just have the bowler throw the ball from the bowling line and avoid the "no ball" issue altogether?
Would this be a breach of the rules?
Do bowlers throw "curve balls"?
May I make a point about the physics of it?
I submit that a major league baseball pitcher is able to throw the ball just as fast from a standing position (e.g., 90-100mph) as a cricket bowler is able to throw it with his run-up. So why not just have the bowler throw the ball from the bowling line and avoid the "no ball" issue altogether?
Would this be a breach of the rules?
Do bowlers throw "curve balls"?
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No, Dave "throwing" or bowling from a stationary position is allowed, just not very effective due to restrictions on the way the ball may be bowled.
There are different types of bowlers ranging from fast bowlers, whose primary weapon is pace, through swing and seam bowlers who try to make the ball deviate in its course through the air or when it bounces, to slow bowlers, who will attempt to deceive the batsmen with a variety of flight and spin. A spin bowler usually delivers the ball quite slowly and puts spin on the ball causing it to bounce at an angle off the pitch.
There are different types of bowlers ranging from fast bowlers, whose primary weapon is pace, through swing and seam bowlers who try to make the ball deviate in its course through the air or when it bounces, to slow bowlers, who will attempt to deceive the batsmen with a variety of flight and spin. A spin bowler usually delivers the ball quite slowly and puts spin on the ball causing it to bounce at an angle off the pitch.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”