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Civic groups from around the US are calling for a legal investigation into intelligence-gathering on Shia Muslims by the New York Police Department.

The complaint comes after an internal memo became public recommending increased surveillance of the city's Shia community.

Muslims gathered near police headquarters on Friday in protest over the NYPD memo.

Top police officials insist the police only follow-up legitimate leads.

The memo, part of a 2006 report, recommended expanding the NYPD's spying operation on Shia mosques and Muslim centres. It was addressed to Police Commissioner Ray Kelly.

On Thursday, Mr Kelly called the memo a "contingency plan" in case of military conflict between the US and Iran, although no such language is used in the document.

The report was made public by the Associated Press as part of a series of reports on the NYPD's response to terrorism.

The police commissioner is already under fire for appearing in the "The Third Jihad", a controversial movie about Muslims.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16882951
Four radical Islamists admitted in court Wednesday plotting to bomb the London Stock Exchange as part of a campaign of al Qaeda-inspired attacks across the British capital in the run-up to Christmas 2010.

The conspiracy included plans to post bombs to the United States Embassy and the home of London Mayor Boris Johnson.

Police foiled the plot at an early stage before firm dates were agreed or explosive devices assembled.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/ ... 5420120201
THE face of terrorism has shifted dramatically in Australia since the start of the Iraq war and is now dominated by locally born violent jihadists willing to attack their fellow citizens. This is in line with a worldwide trend towards ''homegrown'' extremism, say counter-terrorism analysts and agencies.

Of 36 jihadists involved in 16 local terrorism cases Dr Mullins has studied, all but two were Australian citizens. Most had lived here for more than 10 years before they took part in terrorist activity and had ''quite unremarkable backgrounds''.

During the past six years, 21 men have been convicted of participating in terrorist cells in Sydney and Melbourne, netted in operations Pendennis and Neath - conducted jointly by ASIO and federal, NSW and Victorian police - culminating in dozens of court cases which concluded only recently.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/australi ... z1lRtPU5EV
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US Muslims are well integrated into US society and overall they pose little threat compared to the UK or France where systematic racism has kept them in ghettos.

You may have noticed that we do not hate and fear Irish-Americans like people from the UK hate the Irish.

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Of course they are. Muslims are fully integrated in the US and no one has any unfounded fears about them in your society.
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The Hen wrote:Of course they are. Muslims are fully integrated in the US and no one has any unfounded fears about them in your society.
You need to change the word "unfounded" to "reasonable" (or something like that) for your post to make any sense.


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rubato wrote:US Muslims are well integrated into US society and overall they pose little threat compared to the UK or France where systematic racism has kept them in ghettos.

You may have noticed that we do not hate and fear Irish-Americans like people from the UK hate the Irish.

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Muslims are kept in ghettos in the UK?

Are you really that ignorant. uninformed and stupid or are you simply stirring? :loon
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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You have to ask?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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So David Cameron is referring to Ghettos which don't exist? What are you, stupid? Morons.


http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1061340.html

U.K.: Asian Muslim Ghettos Keep Growing, Hindering Integration

Muslims praying in central London (file photo)

Muslims praying in central London (file photo)
Integration of British Muslims has been increasingly hindered by the rise of ghettos. New research shows the population of these mostly inner city communities has been rising very fast -- by one-third over the past decade. These findings have reopened the debate on how to solve this problem, which also breeds extremism. And solutions are not going to be easily found, according to the experts.


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/arti ... cameron.do

Ban Muslim ghettos, says Cameron
Last updated at 17:52pm on 04.10.06

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David Cameron

David Cameron: Steering Tory immigration policy in a new direction

David Cameron today vowed to break up Muslim ghettos in Britain's cities.

The Tory leader said Islamic schools should in future admit a quarter of their pupils from other faiths. And he said that housing estates should be planned to avoid creating isolated communities.

See also...

• Cameron maps out Tories' path to power

• Cameron's speech - the highlights

• Cameron blog hit by internet video spoof

In the most frank comments on the issue by a major party leader, he used his keynote party conference speech to say Britain had made an error by allowing ghettos to develop.

"It worries me that we have allowed communities to grow up which live 'parallel lives',î he said in an extract of today's speech obtained in advance by the Evening Standard.

"Communities where people from different backgrounds never meet, never talk, never go into each others' homes,î said the Tory leader.

Mr Cameron's carefully balanced remarks were chosen to present a striking contrast with previous Tory approaches to immigration and community issues.

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Ah, the joys of having retard on "ignore".
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Sean wrote:
rubato wrote:US Muslims are well integrated into US society and overall they pose little threat compared to the UK or France where systematic racism has kept them in ghettos.

You may have noticed that we do not hate and fear Irish-Americans like people from the UK hate the Irish.

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Muslims are kept in ghettos in the UK?

Are you really that ignorant. uninformed and stupid or are you simply stirring? :loon
What...you don't think he can be both?!
Treat Gaza like Carthage.

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Your Ignorance can remain in a state of perfection.

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You stupid twat! Do you think that bears any relation to the sensationist shite you posted?

Do you really believe that these communities do not exist in the US?

You're so full of shit you must squeak when you walk!
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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Retard is right! Due to the "ghettoisation” of Muslims in the UK, and the integration of Muslims in the USA, no American need fear terrorism, nor should there be any investigations into the goings on at Mosques!!
Faisal Shahzad, convicted of an attempted car bomb attack in New York's Times Square, has been sentenced to life in prison without parole. In June, he admitted all 10 charges against him in connection with a failed car-bomb attack in the heart of New York in May. He described himself as a Muslim soldier and warned the US to leave "Muslim lands" alone.
Anwar al-Awlaki, a radical American Muslim cleric of Yemeni descent, was linked to a series of attacks and plots across the world - from 11 September 2001 to the shootings at Fort Hood in November 2009.
Sharif Mobleyand Samir Khan joined al-Qaeda in Yemen, and Zarein Ahmedzay and Adis Medunjanin joined Najibullah Zazi in a plot to plant bombs in the subway system in New York City
Muslim Terrorim in the US 2010

Zarein Ahmedzay New York Planned to attack subway in New York City
Adis Medunjanin New York Planned to attack subway in New York City
Colleen R. LaRose Pennsylvania Planned to attack cartoonists in Europe
Jamie Paulin-Ramirez Colorado Planned to attack cartoonists in Europe
Sharif Mobley New Jersey Arrested in Yemen
Raja Lahrasib Khan Illinois Spoke of attacking a sports stadium
Anwar al-Awlaki Yemen Incited terrorism in the United States and Yemen, targeted for killing by US
Faisal Shahzad New York Times Square car-bomb, New York City
Mohamed Alessa New Jersey Planned to join al-Shabaab in Somalia
Carlos Almonte New Jersey Planned to join al-Shabaab in Somalia
Samir Khan North Carolina Joined al-Qa’ida in Yemen
Zachary A. Chesser New York Planned to join al-Shabaab in Somalia
Nadia Rockwood Alaska Passed along list of assassination targets
Paul G. Rockwood Jr. Alaska Developed list of assassination targets
Shaker Masri Illinois Planned to join al-Shabaab in Somalia
Farah Mohamed Beledi Minnesota Joined al-Shabaab in Somalia
Abdel Hameed Shehadeh Hawaii Planned to join al-Shabaab in Somalia
Farooque Ahmed Virginia Planned to attack subway in Virginia
Mohamed Mohamud Oregon Attack on Christmas tree ceremony in Portland
Antonio Martinez Maryland Planned to bomb military recruitment office in Baltimore County
Muslim-American Domestic Terrorist Attacks Since 9/11

Hesham Hadayet 2002 Shot Israeli airline personnel, Los Angeles, California 2 (plus himself)
Charles Bishop 2002 Flew plane into office tower, Tampa, Florida 0 (plus himself)
John Allen Muhammad 2002 “Beltway Snipers,” metropolitan Washington, D.C. area 11
Lee Boyd Malvo 2002
Mohammed Taheri-Azar 2006 Ran over students with rented SUV, Chapel Hill, North Carolina 0
Naveed Haq 2006 Shot workers at Jewish center, Seattle, Washington 1
Sulejmen Talovic 2007 Shot people at shopping center, Salt Lake City, Utah 5 (plus himself)
Tahmeed Ahmad 2007 Attacked military police at Homestead Air Reserve Base, Florida 0
Abdulhakim Muhammad 2009 Shooting at military recruitment center, Little Rock, Arkansas 1
Nidal Hasan 2009 Fort Hood shooting, Texas 13
Faisal Shahzad 2010 Times Square car-bomb, New York City 0
Gosh, due to those UK ghettos the USA is a safe place.
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Gosh, why should we care about facts when bullshit is so cheap?



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4375910.stm


Ghettos shackle French Muslims
Nadir Dendoune
Like many others, Nadir Dendoune's suburb has turned into a ghetto
Rioting by youths in a Paris suburb has highlighted the discontent among sections of France's immigrant population.

The BBC News website's Henri Astier explores the sense of alienation felt by many French Muslims.

When Nadir Dendoune was growing up in the 1980s, his home town of L'Ile Saint-Denis, north of Paris, was a fairly diverse place.

"We were all poor, but there were French people, East Europeans, as well as blacks and Arabs," says Mr Dendoune, 33, an author and something of a celebrity in his estate.

Two decades on, the complexion of the place has changed.

"On my class photos more than half the kids were white," he says. "On today's pictures only one or two are."

L'Ile St-Denis is among the "suburbs" around French cities where immigrants, notably from former North African colonies, have been housed since the 1960s.

Blighted by bad schools and endemic unemployment, the suburbs are hard to escape.


FRENCH ISLAM

Concentrated in poor suburbs of Paris, Lille, Lyon, Marseille and other cities
The immigrants' children and grandchildren are still stuck there - an angry underclass that is increasingly identified through religion.

Ten years ago these youths were seen as French "Arabs".

Now most are commonly referred to, and define themselves, as "Muslims".

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has anything he has posted yet have anything to do with the OP? I doubt it.
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Gob wrote:Muslim-American Domestic Terrorist Attacks Since 9/11

Hesham Hadayet 2002 Shot Israeli airline personnel, Los Angeles, California 2 (plus himself)
Charles Bishop 2002 Flew plane into office tower, Tampa, Florida 0 (plus himself)
John Allen Muhammad 2002 “Beltway Snipers,” metropolitan Washington, D.C. area 11 (Muslims?)
Lee Boyd Malvo 2002 (Muslims?)
Mohammed Taheri-Azar 2006 Ran over students with rented SUV, Chapel Hill, North Carolina 0
Naveed Haq 2006 Shot workers at Jewish center, Seattle, Washington 1
Sulejmen Talovic 2007 Shot people at shopping center, Salt Lake City, Utah 5 (plus himself)
Tahmeed Ahmad 2007 Attacked military police at Homestead Air Reserve Base, Florida 0
Abdulhakim Muhammad 2009 Shooting at military recruitment center, Little Rock, Arkansas 1
Nidal Hasan 2009 Fort Hood shooting, Texas 13
Faisal Shahzad 2010 Times Square car-bomb, New York City 0
Muhammad and Malvo were mentally ill and both were US blacks, not Muslims from a Muslim family background. Most of the others were similarly mentally ill people with no real Muslim ideological connection except Nidal Hasan.

Sorry kid. You lose.

All countries have a few random murders committed by mentally ill people. We also had cases of Jews killed by RW nuts with guns too! Not all countries have public transportation bombed systematically or violent riots (like the French) which go on for weeks.

And I have proven that you have Muslim Ghettos.



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Gob wrote:has anything he has posted yet have anything to do with the OP? I doubt it.
We would do better to launch an investigation into the effects of racist hysteria.

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Anything yet? Or is he still displaying that quasi-racist hate for the UK which he does whenever his astounding ignorance is shown up here?
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That's the one! :lol:
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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is he still displaying that quasi-racist hate for the UK which he does whenever his astounding ignorance is shown up here?
Would that be the rubster?

He's like Mikey....

He hates everything... :D
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