You were concerned enough to flat out lie about what they said.dgs49 wrote:I'm not really concerned about today's polling numbers.
But thanks for acknowledging that you did, it shows a lot of class.
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But thanks for acknowledging that you did, it shows a lot of class.
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I for one would care about the odd rituals practiced by any church if they were being practiced on me directly.Sue U wrote:Re Mormon baptism of the dead: I can certainly see why some Jews would be offended, since it smacks of forced conversion, and historically we have had quite enough of that, thankyouverymuch. But for me, it's just silliness; it doesn't actually affect anyone, and who really cares what odd rituals are practced by that church? Religions pretty much by definition engage in all kinds of strange things. If you really want to talk about "controversial practices," why doesn't someone question Gingrich or Santorum on the Roman Catholic rite of praying for the conversion of the "faithless (formerly 'perfidious') Jews?"
To me, praying for someone's conversion is not quite in the same league as forcibly converting them without their consent. It would only be a problem to those who believed in the power of prayer.
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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Just heard Mitt and Newt's post Florida speeches. Icky!
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Ha! I was just about to post the same thing. 
Mitt's especially, since he'll likely get the nod. If he somehow beats Obama, I'm tuning out for the next four years. I doubt he'll do more damage than Dubya did, but I can't stand his slick pitch. At least Dubya's speeches were always good for a laugh.
Mitt's especially, since he'll likely get the nod. If he somehow beats Obama, I'm tuning out for the next four years. I doubt he'll do more damage than Dubya did, but I can't stand his slick pitch. At least Dubya's speeches were always good for a laugh.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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Republican front-runner Mitt Romney has cruised to an easy victory in Nevada, crushing his three remaining rivals and taking firm command of the party's volatile presidential nominating race.
With 10 per cent of the vote counted, Romney had 48 per cent, more than double that of each of his closest rivals, former US House Speaker Newt Gingrich and US Representative Ron Paul.
The victory was Romney's second in a row and his third in the first five contests in the state-by-state battle to find a Republican challenger to President Barack Obama in November's general election.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/republican- ... z1lTc856jP
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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What happens when Gingrich throws in the towel?
Would Mitty make him VP? Normally I would think that idea was beyond-the-Palin; just crazy talk.
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Would Mitty make him VP? Normally I would think that idea was beyond-the-Palin; just crazy talk.
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("...beyond-the-Palin," gotta remember that one...)
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If you want to figure out why Newt Gingrich is still out there grasping for lost power, howling at the moon like King Lear, look to his wife, Callista.
You can find her any time, standing statue-still on stage next to Newt as he speaks, gazing at him with such frozen attentiveness that she could give a master class to Nancy Reagan.
Ann Romney often introduces her husband Mitt, chatting warmly about his uxorious virtues, and then heads off stage or to the back of the stage while he talks. But the 45-year-old Callista has created an entirely new model for a US political spouse, standing mute in her primary-colour suits and triple-strand pearls, looking at the 68-year-old Newt for the whole event, her platinum carapace inclined deferentially towards his shaggy grey mane.
''She's a transformational wife,'' Republican strategist Alex Castellanos tells me. ''She's the wife who makes the candidate think he is destiny's gift to mankind, born to greater things.''
While a trophy wife is admired by her man, the admiring eyes of a ''transformational wife'' are there to propel her man to the next level. And when a woman who wants to be a transformational wife merges with a man who calls himself a ''transformational figure'', you can expect a narcissistic blast-off.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/ ... z1lZJ33SsS
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Gobster, FYI, Maureen Dowd is not really the sort of columnist one would want to quote.
Politically, she is the mirror image of Rush Limbaugh, without the wit or charm. Or money.
Politically, she is the mirror image of Rush Limbaugh, without the wit or charm. Or money.
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..Or Oxycontin
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Gob - I hope you've learned by now that when Dave posts on politics, journalism, or law, you understand that the truth is the exact opposite of what he claims.dgs49 wrote:Gobster, FYI, Maureen Dowd is not really the sort of columnist one would want to quote.
Politically, she is the mirror image of Rush Limbaugh, without the wit or charm. Or money.
Maureen Dowd is a pulitzer prize winning journalist and columnist for one of the greatest newspapers in the world. She's damned funny, even if her humor goes right over his head.
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Eek! That woman looks crazier than Michele Bachmann did in the Time (or Newsweek?) cover!
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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Maureen Dowd is a "Pulitzer Prize winning columnist..."
...Jesus Christ, read her columns. She is a vacuous, inflammatory shrew, who is a fucking joke to everyone to the political right of the CPUSA. Everyone with a pen who has been in the business for more than ten years is a "Pulitzer Prize winning..." something. It's like Paul Krugman being a Nobel Prize winning economist, and Barry O being a winner of the Nobel Peace prize. A trade joke.
and according to the latest Rasmussen polls,...
"While Rick Santorum's distant fourth-place finish in Nevada Saturday may bolster Newt Gingrich's case for Mr. Santorum quitting the presidential race, a new Rasmussen poll gives Mr. Santorum good reason to stay in.
In Rasmussen's latest general election poll, Mr. Santorum is the only GOP candidate who leads President Obama. The former Pennsylvania senator edges out Mr. Obama by a point..."
How do you like the poll data now, sweetie?
Meaningless, but interesting.
And keep in mind, poll data now is like polling the jurors at the end of the Prosecution's case. The public really hasn't heard the other side's evidence. When the Republican candidate is able to put Barry's horrific record on the table - including, for example, the way he punched the catholic church in the eye - the numbers will be a little more indicative.
...Jesus Christ, read her columns. She is a vacuous, inflammatory shrew, who is a fucking joke to everyone to the political right of the CPUSA. Everyone with a pen who has been in the business for more than ten years is a "Pulitzer Prize winning..." something. It's like Paul Krugman being a Nobel Prize winning economist, and Barry O being a winner of the Nobel Peace prize. A trade joke.
and according to the latest Rasmussen polls,...
"While Rick Santorum's distant fourth-place finish in Nevada Saturday may bolster Newt Gingrich's case for Mr. Santorum quitting the presidential race, a new Rasmussen poll gives Mr. Santorum good reason to stay in.
In Rasmussen's latest general election poll, Mr. Santorum is the only GOP candidate who leads President Obama. The former Pennsylvania senator edges out Mr. Obama by a point..."
How do you like the poll data now, sweetie?
Meaningless, but interesting.
And keep in mind, poll data now is like polling the jurors at the end of the Prosecution's case. The public really hasn't heard the other side's evidence. When the Republican candidate is able to put Barry's horrific record on the table - including, for example, the way he punched the catholic church in the eye - the numbers will be a little more indicative.
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That's about the size of it.Meaningless ....
Let's see what the polls say after the respondents know that Santorum wants the victims of rape to be forced to bear the rapists' offspring. And that he opposes contraception. And, and, and ....
Reason is valuable only when it performs against the wordless physical background of the universe.
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That would be good. It would help to show the world what the Republican party really is.
Reason is valuable only when it performs against the wordless physical background of the universe.
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I don't know that I'd be gleefully hoping for Santorum's nomination if I were a Democrat...Oh please please please please let Santorum be the GOP nominee!
We could certainly nominate stronger candidates, but I don't think he's the sure fire, slam-dunk loser that Leroy would be...
For one thing, he's not nearly as personally repulsive...
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Not to mention he's got theone major thing that Mewt and Mitt are missing he's genuine. That plays well with voters it's what Got Bush jr. elected twice.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Yeah, but W was a "genuine" moron.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Big night for Santorum....
He was expected to win in Missouri, (Gingrich wasn't on the ballot,) and maybe even in Minnesota, (Romney did little campaigning there, and there's a strong evangelical faction) but Colorado, where Romney got 60% of the vote last year was considered a lock for him.
Santorum trounced Romney in Missouri (by 30 points) thumped him again in Minnesota 45-17, (Romney finished 3rd there, behind Paul) and pulled off a five point upset in Colorado.
So once, again the race has been thrown into uncertainty after looking like it was over....It appears that the week Romney spent fumbling around about the "I don't care about the poor" bruhaha, and the general shitfest between him and Gingrich have taken a toll...
Instead of February being an easy cruise for Romney he now desperately has to construct firewalls in Arizona and Michigan to stop his candidacy from unraveling in March....Romney is once again up against the wall, much like he was after getting spanked in South Carolina.
Of course now the Romney attack machine will turn it's full power on Santorum, who they will hit as a "Washington insider" and attack over earmarks...there are two problems that they are going to have with this...
The first is that Santorum is nowhere near as target rich an opportunity for attacks as Leroy, (but then who is? Also, Romney doesn't have the option of going after Santorum on the social issues in a GOP primary setting where his own credentials are so suspect, and trying to claim he's more electable than Santorum when Santorum runs better in the polls against Obama than he does is a tough sell ) the second is, that at some point, a portion of the electorate is going to start to suffer from "attack fatigue" and may punish Romney for being a bully.
He was expected to win in Missouri, (Gingrich wasn't on the ballot,) and maybe even in Minnesota, (Romney did little campaigning there, and there's a strong evangelical faction) but Colorado, where Romney got 60% of the vote last year was considered a lock for him.
Santorum trounced Romney in Missouri (by 30 points) thumped him again in Minnesota 45-17, (Romney finished 3rd there, behind Paul) and pulled off a five point upset in Colorado.
So once, again the race has been thrown into uncertainty after looking like it was over....It appears that the week Romney spent fumbling around about the "I don't care about the poor" bruhaha, and the general shitfest between him and Gingrich have taken a toll...
Instead of February being an easy cruise for Romney he now desperately has to construct firewalls in Arizona and Michigan to stop his candidacy from unraveling in March....Romney is once again up against the wall, much like he was after getting spanked in South Carolina.
Of course now the Romney attack machine will turn it's full power on Santorum, who they will hit as a "Washington insider" and attack over earmarks...there are two problems that they are going to have with this...
The first is that Santorum is nowhere near as target rich an opportunity for attacks as Leroy, (but then who is? Also, Romney doesn't have the option of going after Santorum on the social issues in a GOP primary setting where his own credentials are so suspect, and trying to claim he's more electable than Santorum when Santorum runs better in the polls against Obama than he does is a tough sell ) the second is, that at some point, a portion of the electorate is going to start to suffer from "attack fatigue" and may punish Romney for being a bully.
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