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Lord Jim wrote: the best form of birth control being "an aspirin held tightly between the knees"...

Not in certain positions it's not.
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Lord Jim wrote:tthe best form of birth control being "an aspirin held tightly between the knees"...
Demonstrates lack of imagination.

Also:
Lord Jim wrote:that has some in the media scared shitless...
Tee-hee.
GAH!

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Sue U wrote:
Lord Jim wrote:tthe best form of birth control being "an aspirin held tightly between the knees"...
Demonstrates lack of imagination.

Also:
Lord Jim wrote:that has some in the media scared shitless...
Tee-hee.
I imagine that holding an aspirin between their knees would constipate even media members.

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Romny will be giving the Santorum Campaign a big donation this morning for the immesurable amount of help Santoum gave Romney by simply opening is mouth and inserting his foot.

I don't know if Santorum hired dgs to come up with his talking points or that it's possible for more than one person to come up with those kind of nonsensical half thought out hateful beliefs. (I have yet to determine which is the scarier notion)
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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OK, there's that word again.

Crackpot, please provide a single example of anything Santorum has ever said that is "hateful."


And saying that homosexual sodomy is immoral is not "hateful." It is the expression of a widely-held belief.

Please, please, please try to come up with something.

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How about implying that the only reason to have pre-natal screening is to promote Abortion?

Calling someoens belifs immoral without the cajones to cite specifics?

those atre two just of the top of my head.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Going off uninformed about anything while ascibing false motives to others actions is hateful.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Correspondents say defeat for Mr Romney in what is effectively his home state would sow panic in the Republican establishment and increase the chances of a messy, drawn-out end to the nomination process.
There are other options?
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dgs49 wrote:And saying that homosexual sodomy is immoral is not "hateful." It is the expression of a widely-held belief.
Racism is also the expression of a widely held belief.

Just because a lot of people believe in something does not make it a good idea.

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OK, here's the way it works, Crackpot:

I post the following: "...please provide a single example of anything Santorum has ever said that is hateful."

What is supposed to follow is you QUOTING something that Senator Santorum has said, and explaining how, in that little kernel of tissue you call your mind, you find Santorum's statement to be "hateful."

We already have a long record of rumors you have repeated here, and impressions that you have, so I wasn't looking for that. I was looking for, I don't know, "...anything Santorum has ever SAID..." as a starting point.

But thanks anyway for demonstrating YET AGAIN what an idiot you are with what you DID post, to wit:

"How about implying that the only reason to have pre-natal screening is to promote Abortion?"

Anyone with more than a kernel of a brain is aware that Senator Santorum has NEVER said that "the only reason to have pre-natal screening is to promote Abortion," [I wonder why he capitalized that?]. What he did was point out the FACT that pre-natal screening frequently precipitates the decision to abort a child/fetus, something that Santorum considers to be morally wrong.

Or weren't you aware of the strange phenomenon of Downs' Syndrome being reduced by about 90%. Did you think that was a hugely fucking amazing coincidence? Could you possibly be unaware that PRE-NATAL SCREENING is the reason why there are not many "mongoloid" babies in the U.S. any more?

Senator Santorum has been quoted extensively, hugely, and abundantly of late. If fact, his detractors are dredging up clips of interviews with him that took place years - decades - ago. And yet you couldn't find a single quotation to support your idiotic assertion that he is a "hateful" person.

Maybe it is because you are a hateful person. Maybe you are so intimidated by someone with strong moral beliefs (while you apparently have none), that you simply fly off in a blind rage when you see manifestations of his beliefs.

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You're right he just flat out said "pre-natal screening promotes abortion".

Pre-natal screening also allows for early diagnosis and treatment of many maladies that if caught early can be corrected by surgugal or even nutitional means preventing many physical and mental disabilities.

Morons the both of you.
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This past week, Santorum has been making the same mistake that he made right after his good showing in Iowa; he's giving detailed answers to baiting social issue questions, (possibly planted; they may even be planted by the Romney campaign since it's obvious this is a weakness of Rick's) where he goes on at length about his personal beliefs based on his interpretation of his Faith.

He's made very clear that his personal views on a number of these subjects are entirely separate from the official actions he would take as President, (just as, as his record clearly indicates, they were separate from his votes as a Senator) but that distinction of course is getting completely lost as his comments are strained through a media filter, most of who's members want to deliberately blur and ignore that distinction to undermine his electability.

This is a fact of the political dynamics that Santorum had to know he would be facing, so there's no use bitching about it; bitching isn't going to change the reality. He needs to deal with it.

What Rick needs to do, (sooner rather than later) is to apply the same sort of message discipline that he's gotten pretty good at when dealing directly with the press, to his interactions at these "Town Hall" Q&A's with supposedly ordinary citizens. As I pointed out when he was doing this after Iowa, it's admirable as a personal quality that the man actually wants to give complete direct answers to the questions he receives, but it will be fatal to his Presidential aspirations if he continues to do so, since those kinds of answers will always provide those opposed to you with a treasure trove of quotes to take out of context and misrepresent.

I think I understand why he does this. He has been doing so many of these meetings for so long, this is just the way he tries to handle the interaction. It's become second nature to him.

When you're laboring away as an obscure candidate trying to win votes one at a time, getting questions from people who sincerely want answers to their questions, this approach may be somewhat effective. But when you're playing at this level, at this stage in the campaign, where your every word and action is being filtered to millions of potential voters through the distorted media lens, and most of these questions are set-ups to try to make you look bad, it is fool hardy in the extreme.

If Santorum can not discipline himself to avoid these traps, then he can't win, and he won't deserve to win....
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"Satan has his sights on the United States of America!" Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum has declared.

"Satan is attacking the great institutions of America, using those great vices of pride, vanity, and sensuality as the root to attack all of the strong plants that has so deeply rooted in the American tradition."

The former senator from Pennsylvania warned in 2008 how politics and government are falling to Satan.

"This is a spiritual war. And the Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies would have his sights on: a good, decent, powerful, influential country - the United States of America. If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age?"

"He attacks all of us and he attacks all of our institutions."

Santorum made the provocative comments to students at Ave Maria University in Florida.

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Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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The freshest of the intentional misinterpretations come from our local "conservative" newspaper.

An op-ed piece this week (from a blogger they've never published before) quotes Santorum as saying that the free availability of artificial birth control has had the impact of dramatically increasing sexual promiscuity among single women.

Duh.

The writer concludes the Santorum must not be aware that married women use birth control pills.

Un. Fucking. Believable.

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This is the candidate who authored a bill to privatise the National Weather Service. It is impossible to underestimate an intelligence that meagre.

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Dearest Ruby:

Please point to the section of the Constitution that grants the Federal Government the power to forecast the weather.

Inquiring minds want to know.

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Right. Because they totally knew about meteorology, radar, and satellites back in 1787.

And it would fall under "promote the general welfare" unless you want people to have to pay for their tornado warnings.

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Actually Dave the weather is a very important military resource.

Well not the weather per se but certainly the ability to get fast (and accurate as humanly possible) forecasts.

Ask the Germans of WWII...
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I suppose FEMA is unconstitutional too...
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