Joe Guy wrote:It's quite obvious to me that quad takes your side on issues because most of your opinions are contrary to people he doesn't like (hates).
I don't need to worry about it, but in this forum I'd be suspicious of quad's motive if he supported anything I wrote.
What issues are you referring to?
Did Quaddriver take a side on the issue of John Yoo? Did he take a side on the issue of prosecutors? Did he take a side on the issue of public nudity?
Maybe he did. Various people took various sides on those issues; I do not remember all of the positions, let alone who took which. I do not remember his taking any position on any of those issues, but maybe he did.
My positions have never depended on his -- you may recall his and my having had long and sometimes vituperative disputes about various things over the years -- and I have no reason to think that his positions have ever depended on mine.
Do you have reason to think otherwise?
Reason is valuable only when it performs against the wordless physical background of the universe.
Everyone who read the thread about prosecutors knows that Little Jimmy misrepresented what I wrote.
In case anyone needs a refresher:
Andrew D wrote:First, the leap from this:
Andrew D wrote:It bears noting that prosecutors rarely need to fabricate evidence. Most of the time, the police have done that for them. All they need to do is assume the truth of what the police say and present it as true.
But over time, most prosecutors become more and more jaded about the veracity of police testimony. That does not mean that they are actually suborning perjury; after all, they are not percipient witnesses to the underlying facts. It means that they have doubts about the truth of what the police claim, but nonetheless, they ask the court or the jury to believe that testimony.
"The court" is an important point. Most police perjury is not directed at juries. Most of it is directed at courts. The police are aware of the exclusionary rule, and they hate it. So they lie, not necessarily about the evidence itself, but about how they obtained it. They know perfectly well what their affidavits have to say to survive Fourth-Amendment challenges, so that is what they say. True? False? A consideration relevant only to tactics.
It is still true that in those instances where subornation of perjury is necessary to obtain a conviction, most prosecutors will do it. And they won't think of themselves as "lying scumbags." They are convinced that the defendant is guilty -- and they are often quite right about that -- and they conclude that a little subornation of perjury is worth it to get some creep of the streets before he rapes and murders another victim.
to this:
Lord Jim wrote:He makes an assertion he doesn't back up, gets called on it, and rather than either support the assertion, (an admittedly tall order when the assertion is that "most" prosecutors in this country suborn perjury) or retract or amend it, he instead tries to change the subject by erecting a complete straw man and trying to throw the person who called him on his ass gas on the defensive.
cannot be made by honest, rational means.
It simply cannot be done.
So where was the outrage?
Reason is valuable only when it performs against the wordless physical background of the universe.
The "Clique" is comprised of people who believe it is unacceptable behavior when people cross the line into their personal lives and make accusations against them.
Joe Guy wrote:The "Clique" is comprised of people who believe it is unacceptable behavior when people cross the line into their personal lives and make accusations against them.
Really?
So where was the outrage when Little Jimmy made the personal accusation that rubato is sponging off of his wife?
Reason is valuable only when it performs against the wordless physical background of the universe.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
Joe Guy wrote:The "Clique" is comprised of people who believe it is unacceptable behavior when people cross the line into their personal lives and make accusations against them.
Really?
So where was the outrage when Little Jimmy made the personal accusation that rubato is sponging off of his wife?
I suppose you expressed outrage and jumped to rubato's defense then, right?
Well he is an anti-bullying hero. (Who wants the USA to bully the world into paying tribute!)
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
So where was the outrage when Little Jimmy made the personal accusation that rubato is sponging off of his wife?
And I should also point out that rube called my wife a stupid woman and a drug addict. (Not to mention saying that the reason I was so outraged by child molestation was because I harbored a desire to molest my daughter; a personal attack infinitely worse than being accused of being a freeloader.)
In any event, I never accused rube of earning his income illegally, let alone claim to have evidence that would prove the charge, as Andrewdriver has done.
Why not just fuck off then Andrew? You are obviously not happy in our company, so why come back for more, only to make yourself look like a petulant lying child?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
Demand to know why I didn't do more than, perhaps, I should have about the cliques.
Forget about the truth.
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Forget about the truth.
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Forget about the truth.
It'll be good for you,
Really.
It will.
Manic phase of bipolar disorder
Signs and symptoms of the manic or hypomanic phase of bipolar disorder can include:
Euphoria
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Poor judgment
Rapid speech
Racing thoughts
Aggressive behavior
Agitation or irritation
Delusions or a break from reality (psychosis)
So where was the outrage when Little Jimmy made the personal accusation that rubato is sponging off of his wife?
And I should also point out that rube called my wife a stupid woman and a drug addict. (Not to mention saying that the reason I was so outraged by child molestation was because I harbored a desire to molest my daughter; a personal attack infinitely worse than being accused of being a freeloader.)
In any event, I never accused rube of earning his income illegally, let alone claim to have evidence that would prove the charge, as Andrewdriver has done.
And, of course, the fact that Andrew accused YOU of being a pedophile.
Not at all...he posted it on the old CSB. Andrew was in his phase of reacting to anyone disagreeing with him by flinging highly-sexualized personal attacks at them. (He also, I recall in the same thread, accused me of stalking underage boys, as well as attacks against my wife & my mother.)
