I'm Going To Settle This Once And For All

[Jarlaxle]

If not, I will expect a prompt retraction of those allegations.

Excuse me, but there is already a queue.

I'm still waiting for an apology regarding allegations that I'd tossed my principles aside to be a prosecutor with no ethics.

I already know there isn't any evidence to substantiate the allegations.


Of course what I'm getting at is: Don't hold your breath, LJ.


eta: Unlike the little man behind the curtain, our resident 'Oz' lacks the character to admit wrongdoing.

The major difference being, BSG, that a dipshit posting "all prosecutors are scum, you are a prosecutor, therefore you are scum" is a flame...the same dipshit accusing someone BY NAME of being a "scammer" is getting close to being LIBEL.

[Jarlaxle]

What puzzles me is how and why Andrew is so intimate with Lord Jim's business affairs?

Is obsession common among the bipolar?

[Gob]

Yup!

[Rick]

I don't believe Andrew to be bipolar...

[Joe Guy]

Andrew's posts are manic at times and depressed at other times.

He has written that he hears music in the form of multiple songs in his head that he can't stop and that he never sleeps well. He has written some very depressing & revealing posts that portray him as a man struggling to cope with life.

That is why I feel more sympathetic toward him than I do to a person who is an asshole by choice, like quad, for example.

Of course, I don't have a professional knowledge of the subject I'm talking about. I'm just making an OBservation.

Oops...

[BoSoxGal]

Jarl, if you go back you'll see that I was accused, specifically, of not serving my defense clients competently and of railroading defendants into jail as a prosecutor.

Those are ethical allegations made, without substantiation, by one licensed attorney against another. That is very serious, indeed.

[Rick]

Andrew's posts are manic at times and depressed at other times.

He has written that he hears music in the form of multiple songs in his head that he can't stop and that he never sleeps well. He has written some very depressing & revealing posts that portray him as a man struggling to cope with life.

That is why I feel more sympathetic toward him than I do to a person who is an asshole by choice, like quad, for example.

Of course, I don't have a professional knowledge of the subject I'm talking about. I'm just making an OBservation.

Oops...

I don't have a shingle either but I do know we all have good days as well as bad.

This sometimes spills over into my outlook on things at times, I'm not bipolar (least that I know of).

I don't always sleep well. When I was younger a bomb could go off and not phase me. Now I've got a wife and she has a dog, they both snore.

As for the music I don't know anything about the classics, I grew up with rock there's no room for more than one of those tunes in one's head at a time.

I've seen the exchanges between you and Quad, it's obvious you and he are at odds I don't know him that well.

What can I say...

[Crackpot]

What worries me is that Andrew seems to be going the way of steve.

[Rick]

What worries me is that Andrew seems to be going the way of steve.

No Way...

[Lord Jim]

That is why I feel more sympathetic toward him than I do to a person who is an asshole by choice, like quad, for example.

I have felt the same way.

But he has been such an asshole, for so long, that he has used up my not unsubstantial reservoir of sympathy...

You're absolutely right about the mood swings; one post would be full of sneering arrogance; and then in the next he'd be full of self pity and pensive angst.... As though one moment his libido was taking on gigantic dimensions, and then the next it had vanished entirely....

But what I don't get...

Really don't get....

Is how it is that he just does not seem to realize that doubling down on asshole, (hell, tripling down...quadrupling down...quintupling down) is doing nothing but making him look worse, and worse, and worse...

It must be the only tool in his toolbox at this point....

It's as though he seems to have taken it into his head that if he's just big enough of a prick, somehow he will win back the respect and affection that he has lost.

He seems to look at his situation here, and every time come to the conclusion, "My problem is I'm not being enough of a jerk."

Like the wise old saying goes, "The definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and and over again expecting different results."

I have every confidence that he'll come back to this discussion trying to top himself in prickishness; ...and then he'll probably pull his favorite stunt; accusing me of being guilty of every thing he has shown himself to be guilty of...

(And he'll likely characterize my last comment as a "pre-emptive strike"....instead of fretting over "pre-emptive strikes' he really ought to be asking himself why he has become so tediously predictable...)

[Lord Jim]

What worries me is that Andrew seems to be going the way of steve.

No Way...

I think that's a very accurate observation Keld....

Many of the same signs are there; he's taken to using all of Steve's sophistic techniques, he's developing the same sort of "play the bully then play the victim" dichotomy; he feels persecuted, and blames others for his being perceived as an asshole....the megalomaniacal, sneering sense of superiority....

I noted a couple of months ago that it seemed to me that just about the only quality of Steve's that Andrew hadn't added to his playbook was posting incoherently....

And couple of his offerings today make it appear that he's checking that one off his list...

Any day now I expect he'll find himself struck with an overpowering desire to start an electrical repair business....

[Jarlaxle]

Jarl, if you go back you'll see that I was accused, specifically, of not serving my defense clients competently and of railroading defendants into jail as a prosecutor.

Those are ethical allegations made, without substantiation, by one licensed attorney against another. That is very serious, indeed.

Oh...I missed that. I have to admit I was largely skimming the train wreck by that point. I only recalled that he lumped you in with all the other prosecutors as a dishonest loser.

[Lord Jim]

The trajectory Andrew's reputation has been on around here can be clearly seen by looking at the responses from other posters following his absences...

Before when he was gone for any length of time, a "where's Andrew?" thread would be started, (hell, I recall I started a couple) and there would be numerous follow up posts expressing concern about him, and hope that he would return...

Even last summer, after his meltdown, he was gone for just a few days, and a chorus of well wishers welcomed him back...(he then of course proceeded to work overtime to make clear he was still off the rails)

During his last absence of well over a month, a thread was started asking where he was.

It drew one follow up response.

When he did come back, there was not one single post....not one...welcoming him back or expressing any sentiment about how it was "good to see you posting again"...

This sort of thing should tell him something...

But for some reason it doesn't...

(Or maybe it "tells" him that his behavior has been exemplary... but the evil and "cunning" Lord Jim has poisoned everyone's mind against him....)

[Andrew D]

Gee, I guess that I'm flattered.

So much attention paid to little old me.

[loCAtek]

[quote="Lord Jim"]
Many of the same signs are there; he's taken to using all of Steve's sophistic techniques, he's developing the same sort of "play the bully then play the victim" dichotomy; he feels persecuted, and blames others for his being perceived as an asshole....the megalomaniacal, sneering sense of superiority....

[quote]


None of which, I saw in person.


Me-thinks you read too much into things.

[Joe Guy]

Gee, I guess that I'm flattered.

So much attention paid to little old me.

You should feel flattered.

If people didn't have a genuine interest in your health, they wouldn't be giving any attention to you.

[Rick]

What worries me is that Andrew seems to be going the way of steve.

No Way...

I think that's a very accurate observation Keld....

Many of the same signs are there; he's taken to using all of Steve's sophistic techniques, he's developing the same sort of "play the bully then play the victim" dichotomy; he feels persecuted, and blames others for his being perceived as an asshole....the megalomaniacal, sneering sense of superiority....

I noted a couple of months ago that it seemed to me that just about the only quality of Steve's that Andrew hadn't added to his playbook was posting incoherently....

And couple of his offerings today make it appear that he's checking that one off his list...

Any day now I expect he'll find himself struck with an overpowering desire to start an electrical repair business....

Actually Jim it was CP that posted that, mine was the no way.

I say that because Steve certainly was over the top, to the point that even I had to walk away.

[Rick]

Jarl, if you go back you'll see that I was accused, specifically, of not serving my defense clients competently and of railroading defendants into jail as a prosecutor.

Those are ethical allegations made, without substantiation, by one licensed attorney against another. That is very serious, indeed.

And if someone that wasn't an attorney had made the same observation?

[BoSoxGal]

From the Rules of Professional Responsibility:

RULE 8.2. JUDICIAL AND LEGAL OFFICIALS.
(a)  A lawyer shall not make a statement that the lawyer knows to be false or with reckless disregard as to its truth or falsity concerning the qualifications or integrity of a judge, adjudicatory officer or public legal officer, or of a candidate for election or appointment to judicial or legal office. 
(b)  A lawyer who is a candidate for judicial office shall comply with the applicable provisions of the code of judicial conduct. 

COMMENT:

[1] Assessments by lawyers are relied on in evaluating the professional or personal fitness of persons being considered for election or appointment to judicial office and to public legal offices, such as attorney general, prosecuting attorney and public defender. Expressing honest and candid opinions on such matters contributes to improving the administration of justice. Conversely, false statements by a lawyer can unfairly undermine public confidence in the administration of justice.

[2] When a lawyer seeks judicial office, the lawyer should be bound by applicable limitations on political activity.

[3] To maintain the fair and independent administration of justice, lawyers are encouraged to continue traditional efforts to defend judges and courts unjustly criticized.

[Rick]

Yet your initial rant wasn't a violation?