Well she looked underage...

[Gob]

Two men have been jailed for just 40 months each for raping an 11-year-old girl after a judge agreed she was a 'willing participant', despite being five years below the age of consent.

Roshane Channer and Ruben Monteiro admitted assaulting the child in a block of flats in Luton, Bedfordshire.

Despite describing their crime as 'abhorrent', Judge David Farrell QC jailed the defendants, who are both 21, for less than three and a half years.

He said this was because he accepted their claim that she was a willing participant and agreed that she looked like she was 14. The legal age for consent is 16.

Rape Crisis spokesman Yvonne Traynor described the sentences for the attacks, which were filmed and are believed to have been circulated on a mobile phone, as being 'among the worst' she had ever heard of.

She said: 'The abhorrence of this case spreads the ignorance of a judge that can believe that an 11-year-old could have been a "willing participant".'

Guidelines in the Sexual Offences Act 2003 suggest sentencing for rape of a child under 13 should be between 10 and 13 years in prison.

The Crown Prosecution Service is now considering an appeal against the 'unduly lenient' sentences.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1n3m5YVJu

[Lord Jim]

This is the sort of insanity from the bench that led to mandatory minimum sentencing in this country. (Which carries it's own set of problems)

Guidelines in the Sexual Offences Act 2003 suggest sentencing for rape of a child under 13 should be between 10 and 13 years in prison.

That is also too lenient.....

[Scooter]

He said this was because he accepted their claim that she was a willing participant

Why is this concept so difficult (even for judges, apparently) to understand? She COULD NOT be a willing participant if she was BELOW THE AGE OF CONSENT!!!!!!!!

Maybe if it was engraved on a spike hammered into their skulls...

[Crackpot]

THere is a difference between willing and able to give consent Scoot.

[loCAtek]

Any comment from Hen?

[The Hen]

Can you see one?

Then I guess not.

Any particular reason you are looking for me to comment?

[loCAtek]

You've mentioned your diggophobia, or fear of dying a virgin, in the past.
While you were quite young, are you over it now?

[The Hen]

Oh I see.

I once made a stupid throw-away remark* about and you have decided to somehow link it to the horrific underage rape described in the OP and think that I should comment on .... What exactly? The rape of the child?

Perhaps you expected that I would have been posting about how grateful I was for her not having to die a virgin? WAs I instead meant to remember a throw-away line with no basis in reality and NOW start posting about how happy I am now that I am not a virgin?

Leave the drama behind Lo.

Try turning over a leaf for the New Year.

It is never too late.





* Please note for others reading who MAY comprehend, it was made in jest with NO basis in reality.

Edited to add my first asterisk into the post.

[Lord Jim]

LoCa,

Please tell me that I am misreading your post, and that you are not attempting to imply or insinuate that you expected Hen to support what these disgusting perverts did. That's the way it's reading to me; surely that could not have been your intent....

Please tell me that....

[loCAtek]

A throw away remark here? No, it was how you (publicly) described your childhood.
I'm wondering if you'd agree now, a child could consent to such abuse, or were you in fact abused?

[Lord Jim]

I'm wondering if you'd agree now, a child could consent to such abuse, or were you in fact abused?

Wow...

LoCa, you must really be lookin' for a fight....

[The Hen]

Lo, That was NOT my childhood fear. It was a throw away remark.

You know nothing of my childhood.

I was not abused.

I lost my virginity to my boyfriend at age 15 years and 350 days in case you want to raise how I was underage when I lost it. Yes I was. 15 days short of being legal.

None of which has ANYTHING to do with this thread.

But hardly the impression you are trying to create in your drama seeking posts..

Now, why don't you try turning that leaf, eh Lo?

[The Hen]

A throw away remark here? No, it was how you (publicly) described your childhood.
I'm wondering if you'd agree now, a child could consent to such abuse, or were you in fact abused?

Why would I agree a child would or could consent to that?

[loCAtek]

I beg your pardon, you mentioned at CSB years ago, your deflowering was at a much younger age, due to your 'fear of dying a virgin'. Nothing personal, you understand, in fact, the 'goblins' what did you call them? at your father's house, made a ruckus about it.

[Sean]

You seem surprised Jim. Haven't you realised that when it comes to Taff and Hen, there is no limit to the depths to which lo is willing to plunge.

[The Hen]

I call bullshit, or your inability to comprehend the written word.

Because I lost my virginity just under 16 years of age. It is something I do remember. I was there.

Why are you doing this Lo?

[loCAtek]

Just curious, why would say otherwise years ago on CSB?

[Gob]

I'm on the verge of banning Lo, this has gone far enough.

[The Hen]

I beg your pardon, you mentioned at CSB years ago, your deflowering was at a much younger age, due to your 'fear of dying a virgin'. Nothing personal, you understand, in fact, the 'goblins' what did you call them? at your father's house, made a ruckus about it.

What isn't personal about my losing my virginity, and why are you raising it in this thread?

What is your purpose?

[The Hen]

Just curious, why would say otherwise years ago on CSB?

Please link me to the quote.

I seriously doubt I wrote what you are saying I did.

I have no reason to lie.