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Why some folks shouldn't have email

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APPELLATE COURT WILL REVIEW CEBULL EMAIL
By Sarah Gravlee
Story Published: Mar 1, 2012 at 7:33 PM MST
BILLINGS - An appellate court will conduct a judicial misconduct review of Montana's chief federal judge. This after Judge Richard Cebull forwarded an email to friends containing a racist joke involving bestiality and President Barack Obama's mother.

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Judge Who Sent Obama Email Asks for Review

Cebull is sending a formal apology to President Obama and Cebull himself is asking the Ninth Circuit to review the matter. One local man who has spent more than two decades battling intolerance said Cebull's email made him lose faith in the bench.
"Nothing short of a resignation is going to fix this," said Eran Thompson, the chair of Not in our Town, a world-wide organization started in Billings in 1992 when white supremacy groups targeted minorities.
"Our work is to stop hate," Thompson said. "To stand up and say, 'not in our town.'"
Thompson addresses racial issues in the community on a regular basis, but said the email sent by a federal judge hit close to his heart.
"On a personal level for me, I have a white mother and African-American father, and my initial reaction was anger when I saw this judge had written such a horrible email," Thompson said.
The email Cebull forwarded to six addresses ended up in the hands of a reporter at the Great Falls Tribune. They report the email, sent February 20th, included a remark that Cebull admits as being racist. The Tribune quotes the judge saying his motive was political, not racial. For some, that's not good enough.
"It's dehumanizing, first of all. Comparing the likes of skin other than white to being some kind an animal," Thompson said. The news broke around the anniversary of his mother's death.
"I flash to my mother's eyes. The sadness that would have been in her eyes to see something like this," Thompson said.
He is not the only one asking Cebull to resign. The Montana Human Rights Network has an online petition where anyone can join a list of people asking the judge to resign.
"We really feel like this email violates public trust that we put into people who serve in those positions," said Executive Director Travis McAdams.
Common Cause, a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization founded in 1970, also filed an official complaint with the Ninth Circuit Court. President of that organization Bob Edgar said, "The judge is a federal judge appointed for life. He's to uphold the highest standards of the judicial code of ethics, and he's failed."
Cebull has reportedly apologized for sending the email, but for someone who has been fighting racism in this community for over 20 years an apology is not enough.
"People of color, women who were the target of this insensitive and ugly email will never be able to step into a court room or have any decisions made by him where we won't feel there is a sense of fairness lost," Thompson said.
Several attempts to reach Judge Cebull were unsuccessful Thursday. The Ninth Circuit Court issued a statement Thursday afternoon saying in part, "Judge Cebull has publicly acknowledged that he has acted inappropriately. The judicial council is expected to act expeditiously in investigating and resolving this matter."
The circuit could do anything from dismissing the complaint to recommending Congress impeach Cebull.
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Ok, what was the joke?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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Doh! Here's the Huffington Post piece (which has almost 7000 comments!):
Montana's chief federal judge admitted on Wednesday that he forwarded an email comparing African-Americans to dogs and implying that President Barack Obama's mother had sex with animals.
Richard Cebull's email, obtained by the Great Falls Tribune, reads: "Normally I don't send or forward a lot of these, but even by my standards, it was a bit touching. I want all of my friends to feel what I felt when I read this. Hope it touches your heart like it did mine."
A joke then follows: "A little boy said to his mother; 'Mommy, how come I'm black and you're white?' His mother replied, 'Don't even go there Barack! From what I can remember about that party, you're lucky you don't bark!'"
Cebull forwarded the offensive email from his official court account to six "old buddies," who then forwarded to others.
In an interview with the Tribune, Cebull maintained he did not send the email because it was racist, but because it was 'anti-Obama.'
"The only reason I can explain it to you is I am not a fan of our president, but this goes beyond not being a fan," Cebull said. He agreed the email was racist, but said he personally was not.
"This is a private thing that was, to say the least, very poor judgment on my part," he said.
Cebull was nominated to his current position by George W. Bush. He has served since 2008.
This is not the first instance of an official coming under fire for sending a racist Obama email.
In April 2011, an Orange County GOP official sent out an email with a photo of Obama's face superimposed on the body of a baby chimpanzee. She made a public apology, saying she was an "an imperfect Christian" and she hadn't thought about the cultural implications of the email before sending.
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That's pretty shite!
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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Ugh. This story makes me sick.

I've already achieved near total disillusionment with the judiciary, but this ices the cake.

As one comment on HP put it: "This man sits in judgement of the rest of us."

Someone with such venom in his heart. And such poor judgment. :(
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While I don't usually support lifetime banishment for this sort of thing (Jimmy the Greek, et al), this guy has to go. You could write a small treatise on the many despicable aspects of this one cartoon.

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On a related note I came really close from anouncing from the stall "I'm not going to exit the stall at this moment because I don't want to know the identity of the racist fucks I happen to work with"
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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If he wanted to forward a "joke" like that, instead of using this lead in:
"Normally I don't send or forward a lot of these, but even by my standards, it was a bit touching. I want all of my friends to feel what I felt when I read this. Hope it touches your heart like it did mine."
He should have said:
"Normally I don't send or forward a lot of these, but by my standards, this was some of the worst garbage anyone has ever seen fit to send me, and I wanted you to see that I'm not kidding when I talk to you about the kind of crap I have to put up with from the sick bastards who email me. "
If he'd had the good judgement to do that, the fall out would have been zero....

Of course good judgement doesn't appear to have been on the menu....
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FWIW, I doubt he penned that intro. I've been on the receiving end of a few pretty tasteless emails from 'friends' on my email list and that opening is a standard that I've seen before. It's supposed to 'set up' the joke.

What is so depressing is that there are so many folks like this in our society, hiding in all kinds of positions of power. I'd like to know who he forwarded the email to.
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