IS it wrong to ask what happened to CSB?

[tyro]

I don’t know why you folks need to make those folks look any worse than they already do by making conjectures and theories.

Yes Steve is somewhere between a colossal bonehead and the saddest thing anyone ever made fun of, but they are people.

People damit.

There but for the grace of….

Damit, I’m an atheist!

There but for the grace of Easter ham go you or I.

[Crackpot]

Unfortunately I don't see much conjecture there.

[tyro]

You care to call them facts?

[Lord Jim]

I don’t know why you folks need to make those folks look any worse than they already do

For my part, I'm not trying to make Steve and Gwen look worse than they are, (In Steve's case, I'm not sure that's even possible)

I'm describing a pattern of behavior and sequence of events, (that I'm pretty sure most other people also observed) and attempting to try and make some sort of sense of it.

I'm not trying to make their behavior seem worse than it was; I'm attempting to present what I believe to be logical explanations, (given all the known facts) for why they behaved as badly as they did.

[Gob]

Do we need the CSB any more? Is there anything this board does not provide?

How can we improve Plan B to mitigate this need to sort out other people's problems elsewhere?

[Lord Jim]

Personally, I'll run out of steam on this eventually Strop...After 10 years it's a little difficult to just suddenly try and pretend like the place doesn't exist...

I think it would be a nice thing if there could be two functional boards...

But given everything Gar has written, (and what Tyro has conveyed about his communications with him) it's pretty clear that that just ain't on the cards...

I recall that when myself and the other Cafe Darters first made the migration to the CSB, we spent some time talking about what had happened to that place as well...

But eventually you let it go...

[Gob]

Yeah, venting is cathartic, and we all have history there.

[Lord Jim]

Now I find this amusing....

I see that the "Re-vitalizing The CSB" thread has suddenly come back to life, and yesterday, there was this exchange:

Gwen:

The point I raised regarded thinking about the effect of your behavior on others: Cruelty and viciousness make the community poorer for everyone.

Please spend some time thinking about that.

Daisy:

I sincerely hope that your comment was directed towards Steve too Gwen?

Gwen:

It is applicable to E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E.

E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E.

Please spend some time thinking about that.

This shows the extent to which Gwen is really trying to clean up her act in front of Gar....

Before he was back, she would either have ignored the question, or tried to make excuses for Steve, (talk about "the patient man raised to anger, blah blah blah...", etc.) or even denied that Steve was engaging in such behavior....

But now she's trying to pull a snow job, and pretend that she's fair and even handed....

[Timster]

Well, Jim, I just gave Steve some food for thought. I really do not expect it to go anywhere.

But I feel that I owed the Hen an apology. And I feel better already.

I hope that she accepts it in the spirit and context it was given.

It seems that Steve would love nothing more than to have us at each others throats. Fuck that.

I will quit both boards before that happens.

Signed: Really pissed off in Wisconsin

[Reality Bytes]

I had written a long post giving background to why the moral high ground stance of not allowing venting in similar situations as the one that birthed Plan B actually back fires and proves detrimental to the new forum in the longer term but I figured why bore you all suffice to say my experience leads me to the view that a festering boil is best lanced rather than be allowed to fester, better that we get things out of our system here and not ignore the fact of our shared history and experience eleswhere.

[Lord Jim]

Well said Reality...

Well, Jim, I just gave Steve some food for thought.

Be sure to let me know how that works out for you, Tim...

Unfortunately I believe that is a food that he no longer includes in his diet...

(There's another food that he's not including in his diet...strawberries...apparently somebody stole them...)

I really do find it extremely funny watching Gwen attempting to be on her best behavior...

It must be an enormous strain for her....

If she has to keep this up much longer, she'll probably grit her teeth to the point where she grinds them down to the gums....

[Lord Jim]

Jeepers, I wonder who Steve could possibly have been talking about when he said this in his most recent post:

Further, we have a poster who fancies himself a leader, at least in the respect of rallying the troops to a cause. His entire shtick is to hone this skill on line, which i highly suspect has a lot to do with his professional life, although he has continually evaded addressing specifically when (repeatedly) asked.

Said poster is rather good at character assassination, yet my suspicions are that even he saw he was pursing a bad road, and bailed here

I wondered why my ears were burning....

In the review I did of the discussions going on about this "over there", Steve hadn't made reference to me for quite some time...

Now all of a sudden today, I'm popping up again in his latest diatribe...

This confirms something I was already pretty sure of....

Steve is reading this thread....

HI STEVE!

[Econoline]

Hey, Jim!Look at the cool blast-from-the past I just found!

[Lord Jim]

Waaaaay COOL Econo!

How on earth did you find that?

[Lord Jim]

The really neato keen part is you can actually navigate around and see tons of posts, and really take a stroll down memory lane. (There are even some posts there from R. Brown)

I'm going to bookmark that link.

[Econoline]

Credit where due: it was dales who found that archive, and posted the link here in "Just for Fun" at the CSB. Not all of the posts or all of the threads are archived (it seems to be pretty much random) but enough are there so that I wasted a couple of hours clicking on things and exploring it all. You can even go back pages and pages into the older threads in all the different forums there. (Here's another interesting post on the same subject!)

Sorry for interrupting this thread--which I agree does fill a useful purpose here, BTW. (Maybe I should've started a new thread titled "Is it wrong to ask what happened to Cafe Dartre?" )

[Lord Jim]

I already started a new thread with that link, Econo....(Though I like your title better)

Another funny thing, is with that particular post that you linked to, if I was still posting at the CSB, I could copy and paste it into a post there and it would fit perfectly....

Different board, nine years later, same point....

[loCAtek]

Now I find this amusing....

I see that the "Re-vitalizing The CSB" thread has suddenly come back to life.

Garaelb has taken note of that, just wait for it.

[The Hen]

Well, Jim, I just gave Steve some food for thought. I really do not expect it to go anywhere.

But I feel that I owed the Hen an apology. And I feel better already.

I hope that she accepts it in the spirit and context it was given.

Cheers Tim.

[The Hen]

Jim, you mentioned on the CSB before you took your break about a thread where I was rude to Gwen that may have been the ignition point for her unusual hatred for me.

If you get the chance and find it ever, I would be much obliged of the link.

I would like to see what I have done to Gwen to cause the hatred that Steve, my formally good mate until I came back, has for me.

I know this hatred didn't start by itself.