I've also heard that Zimmerman got a broken nose....(and btw, the cops did confiscate his gun, contrary to what has been repeated in the press over and over)
But in addition to pursuing him, given what we know about the guy's racial attitude from the "fucking coon" remark, it's entirely possible that he yelled something provocative at Martin as well.
And I've seen two women interviewed on CNN who claim to be witnesses also, that say it looked to them like Zimmerman was the aggressor in the scuffle....
The public may have to accept the fact, that especially in light of the way the cops screwed this up initially, it may wind up being very difficult to bring provable charges in this case. (At least as far as state charges are concerned; they might have more latitude with federal civil rights violation charges, but also any half way competent defense attorney will get a change of venue for this guy.)
Suspicious minds.
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Have you seen the video of Zimmerman arriving at the police station?
No laceration to the back of the head, no apparent facial injuries, no torn clothing, no blood.
Martin was assaulting him so badly he had to use deadly force.
Right.
eta: His fucking shirt is still neatly tucked in. Fucking murderer.
His dad's a retired judge. Wonder how that influenced the case?
No laceration to the back of the head, no apparent facial injuries, no torn clothing, no blood.
Martin was assaulting him so badly he had to use deadly force.
Right.
eta: His fucking shirt is still neatly tucked in. Fucking murderer.
His dad's a retired judge. Wonder how that influenced the case?
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Re: Suspicious minds.
Seen it - agree. I look more as if I've been fighting for my life after 10 minutes on the toilet bowl........
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
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Oh god that's an image I can do without, I'll just go bleach my brain.MajGenl.Meade wrote:I look more as if I've been fighting for my life after 10 minutes on the toilet bowl........
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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X2Oh god that's an image I can do without, I'll just go bleach my brain.
But leaving that all too colorful imagery aside, having seen the video, I agree with Meade and BSG about it...
It appears from what I'm hearing that there will be an arrest and charges of some sort, though as I've said I think a conviction, given the way the initial investigation was conducted will be extremely problematic....
But no matter how this ultimately plays out there is absolutely no excuse for this sort of thing:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/29/justice/f ... index.htmlSpike Lee apologizes to couple in Zimmerman address mix-up
(CNN) -- The first hint something was amiss was the knock on the door from a television reporter.
Elaine McClain and her husband, David McClain, of Sanford, Florida, were not expecting a journalist to drop by looking for George Zimmerman, the man who says he fatally shot an unarmed teenager in self-defense.
The death of Trayvon Martin has sparked strong reactions across the country, and those sentiments made their way to the unassuming McClains.
The next day, a letter arrived with "Taste the rainbow" written on the envelope in felt-tip pen.
That is the slogan for Skittles candy. When he was shot, Martin was carrying Skittles candy and a can of iced tea he had purchased from a nearby convenience store.
The letter was followed by a parade of reporters arriving at the McClains' home. Only then, Elaine McClain said, did she and her husband learn that director Spike Lee had retweeted a message to his 250,000 followers with the couple's address, identifying it as George Zimmerman's home.
The McClains have a son whose middle name is George and whose last name is Zimmerman, but he has no connection with the controversy. After the tweets, with hate mail arriving and strangers with microphones knocking on the door, the McClains left their house for a hotel.
Lee apologized on Twitter to the couple and asked people to leave them in peace, and on Thursday, Elaine McClain said, Lee called her and gave a sincere apology.
Lee also told her he would pay the couple's cost of having to leave their home, Elaine McClain said.
The family's attorney, Matt Morgan, said Lee reached an agreement with the couple.
"The McClains are relieved that this matter is now behind them," Morgan said. "We had a very sincere and heartfelt conversation with Mr. Lee today. His apology was genuine and our clients were grateful. We asked Mr. Lee to do the right thing and he did."
The McClains said they were not seeking financial gain from their troubles. David McClain said he simply wants to get his life "back to a rational state."
Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer who says he killed in self-defense last month, lives more than 4 miles from the McClains. He is reported to be in hiding.
So Lee apologizes for having caused an innocent elderly couple to be terrorized out of their home. Bully for him.
Suppose he'd had the right address? In that case, how would doing what he did make him any different from the goons who post the addresses of abortion doctors on the internet?
Shame on Lee for trying to incite vigilante justice. He should apologize for that.
