Enough is enough, should loCAtek be banned permanently?

[Gob]

Ah, see Jim, that's how good he is, he's got you fooled!

[BoSoxGal]

LJ,

I know for a fact that loCA had begun communicating with editec offboard right around the time that she began to hit the skids with Hen & Gob because she told me so herself - not in confidence.

Is he orchestrating her behavior? Not entirely; I'm not asserting that. But I'm sure he has fed and affirmed her righteous indignation at them from that time when she was feeling rejected to quite possibly the present time.

As to how well you know him; whatever bullshit he posted at CSB, I was very close with his wife, shared very intimate confidences concerning him and their marriage (which I will never divulge, but I have cards & emails that prove my connection with her), and visited their home numerous times including sharing Christmas dinner. At one point, before I dared to point out his imperfection and mere mortality, we were reasonably good friends - although because his wife was dear to me, I never respected him all that much. I just had tact enough to not mention it until he began to attack me at CSB.

I know the man's character pretty well and I don't underestimate him. He's a destructive control freak. He would find this whole situation immensely pleasurable & entertaining, having been scorned by Gob & Hen at the time of the CSB's demise.

[Scooter]

There were a number of almost simultaneous coincidences that point to one or more of the troll trio having their paws on this. To what degree, I cannot say. editec predicting that loCA would be the first to be on the outs with everyone. loCA suddenly coming up with these incredibly warped interpretation of things Hen and Gob said to her in the past, that somehow twisted what they said into criticisms of her. loCA miraculously becoming the troll trio's bff after she had been on the outs with them for years. Plus little clues being dropped here and there in her posts in the time since. All of it points to one or more of them whispering in her ear, causing her to radically alter her opinion of Hen and Gob, and putting her on this course she has decided to take. And seeing how happy both editec and Gwen seemed to be to witness Steve descend into his death spiral of self-destruction, it looks like history has been repeating itself.

[Lord Jim]

I know the man's character pretty well and I don't underestimate him.

Frankly BSG, I think you're over estimating him...(I know the history of you and Dorothea, and Editec from both ends of the story;... Like Dana Carvey said.... not gonna go there...wouldn't be prudent.... )

I know for a fact that loCA had begun communicating with editec off board right around the time that she began to hit the skids

That may very well be true....

But that's a far cry from, "Gee editec, could you please show me how to try to destroy Plan B?"

Look, I admit I have a very strong personal resistance to the whole "svengali" concept because, (as you may recall) the Troll Trio tried to pin that on me...

(You may recall how they accused me of "manipulating" "weak minded people"....to discredit them...rather than admitting the fact that through their own actions, they had discredited themselves...)

But laying all of that aside, trying to be objective and fair about this, I don't believe that editec is somehow the master manipulator here...

I think the explanation is much simpler than that...

ETA:

I'm very skeptical when it comes to accusations about "svengalis"....

I'm much more into the concept of "personal responsibility"...

[BoSoxGal]

Again, I didn't say he's directing her, I said encouraging and/or egging her on.

FYI, it's Dorathy.

There is no way that via email, PM & telephone you know him as well as I do. Sorry; don't buy it.

[Lord Jim]

Okay, you say this:

There is no way that via email, PM & telephone you know him as well as I do. Sorry; don't buy it.

and this:

I know the man's character pretty well and I don't underestimate him. He's a destructive control freak.

And I'm saying this:

he seemed maybe a bit neurotic and somewhat excitable, but I never got the impression that he would be focused and disciplined enough to carry on the kind of long term "Captain Ahab" grudge that is currently being attributed to him by some....

Frankly, I think you're blowing the man completely out of proportion...

Do you really think that even "The Man In The Shed" would have so little to focus on, that two years after the creation of Plan B, and the collapse of the CSB, he would be focused on creating a "Manchurian Poster"....? Really?

I know the man's character pretty well and I don't underestimate him.

Gee whiz, I'm going to have to re-think my "I don't believe in Svengalis" position....

[Gob]

Can you two agree to disgaree?

It's not doing anyone any good giving Edi power here in absentia!

[Scooter]

The question will be moot soon enough.

I suppose I should feel sad.

Nah, I'm not that good of an actor.

[Lord Jim]

It's not doing anyone any good giving Edi power here in absentia!

He's such an infernal evil doer...

“He is the Napoleon of crime, Watson. He is the organizer of half that is evil and of nearly all that is undetected in this great city. He is a genius, a philosopher, an abstract thinker. He has a brain of the first order. He sits motionless, like a spider in the centre of its web, but that web has a thousand radiations, and he knows well every quiver of each of them. He does little himself. He only plans. But his agents are numerous and splendidly organized. Is there a crime to be done, a paper to be abstracted, we will say, a house to be rifled, a man to be removed–the word is passed to the professor, the matter is organized and carried out."

or not...

[Gob]

LOL!! I've told you before!!

[The Hen]

Often on the CSB it was said by Ed and Steve that if we were in charge of the Board and people behaved on it in the same manner I did, (taking the admin to task on arbitrary decisions, requesting the restrictions on registration be lifted, etc) we would not put up with it. They made these claims whenever it was felt we hadn't been deferential enough to the great and powerful Gwen.

Interestingly enough, shortly after Lo's suspension on Plan B, she started a thread on the new CSB entitled
In other words, I acted like you ....

I really don't see where I have ever made unsubstantiated claims about any person's personal life in my time on the CSB.

Is it a tad delusional of Lo to think she is behaved like me? I think so.

Do I expect more of the same? Yup.

I doubt she has decided to give up trying to stalk out the goss on the Hen. I doubt she has stopped obsessing about me. Though I would be VERY pleased if she did.

[Rick]

In the interest of not being part of what makes Guin bug out again (and yes I have been part of"this" discussion), I will say I'm NOT putting anyone on ignore (I don't need no button), I am extracting myself from any further discussion on "THIS" issue.

It's getting kinda hard to post on a topic where "this" discussion is not in any particular thread however I will post around it as best I possibly can.

I leave "this" matter for the grownups to hash out...

[MajGenl.Meade]

I doubt she has decided to give up trying to stalk out the goss on the Hen. I doubt she has stopped obsessing about me. Though I would be VERY pleased if she did.

(a) what the heck is a 'goss' - oh wait, gossip I just got that. Thought it was some kind of Oz marsupial
(2) is this Gob using Hen's nomme-de-guerre? That could be confusing.

yrs
rubato



(not really rube; you didn't post this)

[Rick]

I thought Hen's nomme-de-guerre was Warhen?

[Lord Jim]

[BoSoxGal]

Go back and read what I wrote, LJ, and stop misstating my position. You are better than that, I hope.

If you don't understand this post, take it up with me via PM. I'm not interested in polluting the board with this.

[Lord Jim]

BSG, all I'm saying is that it sounds to me like you're over estimating the guy... (But I will certainly admit that if he has been on this board lately I'm sure he's delighted with the conniptions that LoCa has wrought...)

This going to be my last post in this thread or any other that we currently have devoted to, or created by, LoCa and her drama, so long as LoCa does not start up yet again....

[Scooter]

Speaking of which, it would appear that the tribe has spoken. Who is going to put out her torch?

[loCAtek]

LJ, on one point you are quite correct.


I've spoken to you on the phone many times, and have never spoken to neither DSG nor Editec.

She merely flatters herself, while speculating wildly.
Feel free to call me any time, to discuss.

[Scooter]

Nice twist. When did she ever say you had "spoken" to him?