Karmatic Konverter

[loCAtek]

The reality is that you are a thief. We already established that.

That was you: cherry-picking.

[BoSoxGal]

Having a tenant in your house is in accordance with whatever terms you set, loCA.

I've already done it several times in my life, and I happen to also know one or two things about L/T law.

If you are sharing your house with another adult and her kid(s), then certainly she should be paying at least half the utilities and damn close to half whatever fair market value rent is for your house.

Anything less and you are being charitable to a degree to which you cannot afford to be, especially if it compels you to break the law.

[loCAtek]

OMG you can not run your own life, and presume to run mine?

I've yet to ever be bankrupt.


~shame~

[Scooter]

The reality is that you are a thief. We already established that.

That was you: cherry-picking.

You chose to create the topic, is no one allowed to comment on what you write, Miss Control Freak?

[BoSoxGal]

I run my life very well, thank you very much.

I've certainly never destroyed anybody else's credit, as you have. And I don't steal, as you do.

eta: Interesting you suddenly find bankruptcy so shameful when you repeatedly asked me for advice about how to file for bankruptcy protection. Apparently it was morally acceptable when you were going to do it. I guess you are just better than all us losers who avail ourselves of a legal means to get a fresh start post medical crisis, divorce, unemployment instead of stealing to make ends meet.

[BoSoxGal]

By the way, loCA, I've provided you with an excellent resource to utilize to address the near constant state of being broke to which you refer on a regular basis in your posts. One that would free you from seeking personal loans from acquaintances on the Internet or breaking the laws in ways that might find you jailed and/or with punitive fines imposed.

You respond by being a bitch.

Why am I not surprised?

[Scooter]

OMG you can not run your own life, and presume to run mine?

I've yet to ever be bankrupt.


~shame~

Your jealousy is so transparent, it's laughable.

A drunk who lives in a trailer so rickety it fell off its blocks, and who can't come up with two bucks for bus fare, is telling someone else they can't run their life?

Thanks for that, I'll be able to laugh myself to sleep.

[loCAtek]

LOL lost complete track of reality there... the home was new when I bought it, and I do my own re-leveling <pride> ..and it's a train, not a bus.

...but good for you, finally got to the point and enjoyed a funny story; maybe you could get BSG to relax and enjoy it too?

[Scooter]

And maybe you could get sober.

Wait, who I am kidding...

[MajGenl.Meade]

Anyone else think that this is beginning to look like stalking?

She said in the OP she was stealing

Meade

[Scooter]

It's "stalking" to comment directly on the content of the OP, solely within the confines of the thread where the topic was raised?

If she didn't expect people to pass judgment on her criminal behaviour, then she shouldn't have started a thread about it.

And while what she described in the OP was certainly stealing, she has never named it as such. She called it "finagling" at one point, what does that tell you?

[dales]

Sounds to me like loCA needs to find skills that pay more than what she is doing now.

Just my 2c <shrugs>

[MajGenl.Meade]

Well Scooter my question may be incorrectly phrased. I thought that stalking might begin by (just saying here) something maybe not a million miles from starting a poll on whether another poster should be banned and then jumping into her thread with cogent and helpful comments along the lines of "you're a thief", "you should pay for services", "you're a drunk", "maybe you could get sober"

Is passing judgement what you are doing?

Dear me and I thought it was just cheap abuse! Shows how my judgement can go haywire.

Meade

[Scooter]

You mean as opposed to encouraging her to continue believing that her conduct (both here and in RL) has no consequences? Oh yeah, I'm SO ready to jump on that bandwagon with you.

I repeat, if people don't expect others to comment on their behaviour, then they shouldn't put it on display. But since she is so clearly looking for validation from others of the low opinion she has of herself, I am only too happy to oblige.

ETA - and yes, I did start a poll to get her banned, because that is the consequence that was spelled out for her if she chose to pick up where she left off when she got back from her suspension. Which she did. It's another one of those "actions have consequences" things that you appear to have trouble wrapping your head around.

[MajGenl.Meade]

I repeat, if people don't expect others to comment on their behaviour, then they shouldn't put it on display. But since she is so clearly looking for validation from others of the low opinion she has of herself, I am only too happy to oblige.

Me too and I'm following your good advice

[Scooter]

I'm so glad, because I have been lying awake nights worrying about your opinion of me.




so not

[MajGenl.Meade]

I'm sure you could lie in your sleep just fine

[alice]

I run my life very well, thank you very much.

I've certainly never destroyed anybody else's credit, as you have. And I don't steal, as you do.

eta: Interesting you suddenly find bankruptcy so shameful when you repeatedly asked me for advice about how to file for bankruptcy protection. Apparently it was morally acceptable when you were going to do it. I guess you are just better than all us losers who avail ourselves of a legal means to get a fresh start post medical crisis, divorce, unemployment instead of stealing to make ends meet.

Well that makes me a 'loser' then.
I've had about an hours sleep and feeling a bit low, so here's my sad story ...
My ex became a really unpleasant person and after many years of financial mismanagement and other nasties ended up disappearing interstate, leaving me responsible for all his failed business debts and other disasters that I had no involvement in. I did begin to fight the legal fight and apparently had a pretty good case and probably would have won, but ironically had to give up because I didn't have the emotional strength, energy or money to finish the court battle it would have taken. My remaining option was bankruptcy so that I could try to get away from the multi-multi thousand and seemingly ever increasing burden of his failings and hopefully still have money to feed and house my children. I lost my house, lost every cent I ever had, most of my furniture and belongings and nearly my kids (they are from my first failed marriage - I was an idiot two times and both times had to start again with nothing except the scars etc sob sob). It was a long and awful and traumatic fight - I nearly lost my hair from the stress, started to go grey with what hair wasn't falling out, and ended up with a heart issue, and aged considerably. And although the rest of his dealings are no longer my burden I still owe one last creditor - I have to repay my family multi thousands that they had lent to my ex's business because, although I legally don't have to pay anything else and they've said it's okay, morally I can't leave them with that just because of my lousy choice in men. So I have a lot more years left of working long miserable hours to make the best life possible for my kids, and to pay my family. We live in a dump nowadays, and I have a liusy credit rating, but it's a happy dump and I have really, really great kids who are appreciative and will have learned many valuable life lessons from my mistakes!
Will probably regret writing the above when i've had a sleep. Just hate being a 'loser' when I've always tried to be fair and always done the 'right' thing. I spend my life being a 'good person' and karma keeps kicking me in the face - all I can think of is I must have been very awful in a past life!

[BoSoxGal]

Alice

It was very courageous of you to share your story.

I don't think you're a loser at all; I've been there and have worked with lots of folks forced into bankruptcy by circumstances out of their control. It makes me very angry that we just accept corporate bankruptcy as business per usual even when those reorganizations often mean layoffs of working folks and the raiding of pension plans, but we allow denigration of the individual 'bankrupt' when their creditors are often insured against the loss.

Don't let loCA's nastiness get you down; I'm glad you got the clean slate you deserved to move ahead and admire your commitment to repay your family.

One more

[Gob]

Respect for you in your struggles Alice, and courageous of you for sharing.

Ps. Check your PM's.