Something For Discussion (A possible rule)

[Lord Jim]

what unprofessionalism has been displayed?

I believe she's talking about your job again, since she made that comment in response to your suggestion that she "get help"....

[loCAtek]

How was anyone supposed to identify PMSP as your alleged stalker when you never identified her as such when she started posting?

It's called courtesy, which she violated, 'eh?

[Gob]

How was anyone supposed to identify PMSP as your alleged stalker when you never identified her as such when she started posting?

It's called courtesy, which she violated, 'eh?

Call the cops!

[loCAtek]

'Cha, I get help, from an unprofessional, [this board]? Yeah, right.

[Gob]

What?

[Scooter]

It's called courtesy, which she violated, 'eh?

Which is why you welcomed her to the board and chose not to identify her as your alleged stalker.

[Gob]

It just gets more and more sad/funny doesn't it?

She's obviously off her fucking rocker.

[Scooter]

I'll give her this much, she obviously isn't a hardened liar. She's so spectacularly bad at it that it obviously doesn't come as second nature to her.

[Lord Jim]

[loCAtek]

I'll give her this much, she obviously isn't a hardened liar. She's so spectacularly bad at it that it obviously doesn't come as second nature to her.

Cool

[The Hen]

I really don't understand what you are trying to achieve Lo?

Do you think you have a skerrick of 'right' on your side?

You can't possibly. That would be ludicrous.

Now how about you give this board a break for a couple of days and come back a little later.

You might see things a little differently then.

[The Hen]

Perhaps this is an opportune point to raise the percentage vote for 'category' offences again as a nice segue back to the OP.

[Gob]

Now how about you give this board a break for a couple of years and come back a little later.

Fixed.

[The Hen]

Well that stopped that discussion.


(Again. I should probably learn something from that.)

[alice]

Wow.... I'm not here for a few days and .... and... OMG

I'm here late again, and the topic's probably over, but I have one small observation and I thought I'd throw it in, even if it's now redundant....
Without question, if I believed I was being somehow, in any way, stalked on this or any other board, I could, if I wanted to, stop posting stuff about myself on the board.
Maybe even stop posting altogether for a while.
Maybe.... just maybe ... if I could not keep away from the place, I could even possibly contact an admin and say that I would like to start afresh under a new cyber-name, without anyone knowing my previous identity.

Or less drastically, maybe I could put the stalker/s on 'ignore', and/or block their private messages ability to me.

Or I could choose to deal with it openly, across the forum - for example by publicly telling other members what I believed was happening, or by confronting the ex- etc directly, publicly, on the open board.

I guess it would depend on my personality and the specifics of the situation how I would choose to deal with it.

So I could take action for myself to stop or minimise that 'stalking', if it was only on an internet forum.


But what I would NOT do is take no personal responsibility or action myself. and then, after months and months, randomly decide that it was someone else's fault that my ex-boyfriend and his new partner had been able to register as members under random anonymous cybernames on a public internet forum. A forum that they can join using random email addresses, and without divulging their real name or any other identifying information. A public, open forum that they were already 100% capable of reading even without even having to joining up.
And what I would NOT do is then decide that the administration should have somehow known the real-life identity of these members and their relationship to me, and the administrators should have somehow stopped them from joining a public forum board just in case once they had joined they interacted with me via PM or public discussion to such an extent that I found it uncomfortable.

I think that's stretching the powers of the administrators just a tad beyond reasonable.

And If my ex- etc were not just stalking me on an internet forum - if there were other, real life, specific situations of this behaviour - My priority would be contacting the relevant authorities, getting the relevant intervention orders, etc etc, and deal with the more threatening and worrying real life aspect of it all. An internet forum, that I could cease posting in at any time, would be the least of my worries.

On a side note to loCAtek... You have said a number of times here that you told someone about some stalking issue you were having while CSB was still an active forum and prior to PlanB being set up. After PlanB was established, if you started experiencing online stalking through PlanB, did you contact any of the admins and speficially explain that you were being stalked through the forum, and the manner of the stalkiing, and let them know who the stalker was, so that the admins could maybe assist you with suggestions or possible action at that time? I haven't seen any mention, in any of the exchanges above, that would suggest you have mentioned this to anyone since old CSB days. In which case there is no way of anyone even knowing you have a current 'situation.
It would be a very, very long stretch to expect anyone to be able to assist you with something that you didn't tell them was currently happening, and that you hadn't expressed any recent concerns about. And there's no opportunity for 'courtesy' breach or 'unprofessionalism' (or whatever labels you choose to throw around) on the part of anyone on the board if you aren't specifically identifying that there is an issue. Again, it's really streatching the admin powers past any normal or reasonable level (unless this was a psychic forum - then I guess you might be right to expect it )

[Daisy]

Does anyone need another poll?

Also I'm thinking two months?

[Sean]

While I think a poll would be a tad predictable Dais I think it should be done in the interests of fairness.

[Lord Jim]

Personally, I'd suggest another 30 days....

Restart the clock on another six months of probation, and if she starts this again when she gets back , give her just one warning and then hit her with an additional 30 days....

(I think that shortening the turn around time between 30 day suspensions for someone who insists on continuing their behavior is probably going to be broadly more acceptable to more people than increasing the suspension time lengths)

[MajGenl.Meade]

I agree with LJ (if anything must be done at all).

I still think the real solution is just not to respond - or just to respond away and live with it

Meade

[The Hen]

Do you really think ignoring is a valid option at this point in the exchanges?

Personally I think it has Ganesh many months too far.