Looking a gift horse in the mouth
Re: Looking a gift horse in the mouth
Nothing gets unanimous support. Every significant undertaking has people who will benefit and people who will, at least arguably, be inconvenienced or harmed. Propose a new factory that will employ thousands, and you will get environmentalists who try to stop it because it will pollute one thing or another, and people whose houses will have to be sold and razed to make room (many of whom will profit by making a stink).
Maybe this bridge will facilitate people driving right through Detroit but not stopping to buy anything (making Detroit less important/relevant). Maybe some neighborhoods will be bisected and roads turned to dead ends. Who knows?
Some people oppose everything and some people are so stupid or disinterested that they will SIGN anything.
When you get over 65% of the population supporting something, for all practical purposes you have "unanimous" support. Everyone who is not catatonically stupid, personally affected, or corrupt is supporting it. That's the best you can do.
I've travelled to Windsor on a few occasions for shopping, and never found the crossing to be overly burdensome. But then again I was not in a hurry or traveling at rush hour.
Maybe this bridge will facilitate people driving right through Detroit but not stopping to buy anything (making Detroit less important/relevant). Maybe some neighborhoods will be bisected and roads turned to dead ends. Who knows?
Some people oppose everything and some people are so stupid or disinterested that they will SIGN anything.
When you get over 65% of the population supporting something, for all practical purposes you have "unanimous" support. Everyone who is not catatonically stupid, personally affected, or corrupt is supporting it. That's the best you can do.
I've travelled to Windsor on a few occasions for shopping, and never found the crossing to be overly burdensome. But then again I was not in a hurry or traveling at rush hour.
Re: Looking a gift horse in the mouth
So the Republican majority in the Michigan state house is either categorically stupid or corrupt. Good on you for saying so.
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Sorry we've unsettled you sir. My apologies.Crackpot wrote:Oh BSG you wouldn't be able to stand the damned politeness.
It's freaking unsettling!
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Re: Looking a gift horse in the mouth
bsg
it's not that after a while you start to get paranoid that they're out to get you because no one is that nice for no reason
it's not that after a while you start to get paranoid that they're out to get you because no one is that nice for no reason
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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I'm pretty sure it's both.Scooter wrote:So the Republican majority in the Michigan state house is either categorically stupid or corrupt. Good on you for saying so.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Not that I'm sure the Democrats are any better.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
Re: Looking a gift horse in the mouth
My posting was not about this particular bridge, but the difficulty in getting unanimous support for any major public undertaking.
I don't know enough about this bridge (from these two articles) to have any opinion on whether it is a good idea or not. I am certainly not criticizing anyone who opposes it (if the Michigan House does); anyone up there knows more about it than I do.
I don't know enough about this bridge (from these two articles) to have any opinion on whether it is a good idea or not. I am certainly not criticizing anyone who opposes it (if the Michigan House does); anyone up there knows more about it than I do.
Re: Looking a gift horse in the mouth
Then do not retire to Massachusetts, California, New York, or Vermont!bigskygal wrote:Americans are stupid.
Scooter, it's time to find me a Canadian husband/wife. I want to grow old in a place where reason reigns.
*ducks and runs*
Treat Gaza like Carthage.
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Well, you're right about CALIFORNIA, Jarl.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
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Be wary of Canadians baring gifts!!! (Homer)
Suffer not a Canadian to live. (The Bible)
A Canadian is born every minute. (Barnum)
A Canadian and his money are soon parted. (Barnum)
Suffer not a Canadian to live. (The Bible)
A Canadian is born every minute. (Barnum)
A Canadian and his money are soon parted. (Barnum)
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Re: Looking a gift horse in the mouth
That's not nice, liberty.
From the looks of the above map, I'd venture a guess that most of Canada is yellow and the high IQ trickled down into the northern States.
From the looks of the above map, I'd venture a guess that most of Canada is yellow and the high IQ trickled down into the northern States.
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Are you too polite to note how it didn't trickle down as far as Louisiana? (Or are you just practicing for becoming Canadian?) 
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As opposed to where you live in Rhode Island -- the state that gave tens of millions to an inexperienced businessman, who then blew through that money, came begging for more, and now *you* get to pay the bill as the company folds. And funny how that businessman (like you) is a huge critic of government, yet loan was opposed by a democratic governor who refused to give the "businessman" the additional monies and/or guarantees and/or tax credits. Hmmmm, yes, that's reason reigning supreme. Oh, and that "businessman" fled from Massachusetts because we wouldn't give him as large a handout as you Rhodies).Jarlaxle wrote:Then do not retire to Massachusetts, California, New York, or Vermont!bigskygal wrote:Americans are stupid.
Scooter, it's time to find me a Canadian husband/wife. I want to grow old in a place where reason reigns.
*ducks and runs*
There are very few places I'd rather live right now than Massachusetts. It isn't perfect, and it is expensive, but our population is well-educated, our economy is roaring back, our natural and cultural resources are unparallelled, and it is damn beautiful, even in 100 degree weather. Eventually I'll have a little place in Vermont as well, for escapes when I need mountains and dirt roads and a slower pace of life. But for now, life is very very good in the Bay State.
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If that map is to be believed, half the country is retarded. Although that would explain a lot.
GAH!
Re: Looking a gift horse in the mouth
bigskygal wrote:That's not nice, liberty.
It is a joke; it is good natured and there is no animosity applied.
There are many very serious things in the world, but not everything is a matter of life and death. When it comes time to die lets accept it with honor, but until then let's live the best we can.
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Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.
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Check the scale. The low end is over 94 Which is still average (so is the top end for that matter)Sue U wrote:If that map is to be believed, half the country is retarded. Although that would explain a lot.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Rhode Island should be rented out by the acre for target practice. If the country got an enema, it would go in here.Guinevere wrote:As opposed to where you live in Rhode Island -- the state that gave tens of millions to an inexperienced businessman, who then blew through that money, came begging for more, and now *you* get to pay the bill as the company folds. And funny how that businessman (like you) is a huge critic of government, yet loan was opposed by a democratic governor who refused to give the "businessman" the additional monies and/or guarantees and/or tax credits. Hmmmm, yes, that's reason reigning supreme. Oh, and that "businessman" fled from Massachusetts because we wouldn't give him as large a handout as you Rhodies).Jarlaxle wrote:Then do not retire to Massachusetts, California, New York, or Vermont!bigskygal wrote:Americans are stupid.
Scooter, it's time to find me a Canadian husband/wife. I want to grow old in a place where reason reigns.
*ducks and runs*
There are very few places I'd rather live right now than Massachusetts. It isn't perfect, and it is expensive, but our population is well-educated, our economy is roaring back, our natural and cultural resources are unparallelled, and it is damn beautiful, even in 100 degree weather. Eventually I'll have a little place in Vermont as well, for escapes when I need mountains and dirt roads and a slower pace of life. But for now, life is very very good in the Bay State.
Texas is looking better by the hour.
Treat Gaza like Carthage.
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I believe TX is an FFL Class lll state.
(can you say: "select fire"?)
(can you say: "select fire"?)
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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Maroun is out in force in rest area trying to get signatures for another petition to delay the bridge. Warmed my heart to hear everyone say no.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Hm. The United States used to be the nation that helped poorer, less developed countries with infrastructure improvements, and now Canada is the nation that...
Oh, wait....

Oh, wait....
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