dgs ya know I didn't totally disagree with what you were posting but since yer an ass piss on ya.
Do yer own searches but yer assertions are NOT entirely correct.
In that case you are no more correct than those you are argueing with...
There is no 'placebo effect' in physics.
Re: There is no 'placebo effect' in physics.
Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is
Re: There is no 'placebo effect' in physics.
he also desn't know how much land is <6 in above sea level.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Re: There is no 'placebo effect' in physics.
Again, an inch and a half at current levels of expansion. Something else you keep ignoring in your effort to continue arguing. And you can exclude melting ice all you want, but it's part of the equation. More ice melting means more water in the ocean which means more water expanding.dgs49 wrote:G.R., you really are a moron. The topic of discussion is the increase in sea levels DUE TO THERMAN EXPANSION OF WATER. This is what Rube brought up at the top of the thread. If you could read, you would have noted that I specifically stated on more than one occasion above that I was excluding the effects of melting ice. An inch and a half is NOTHING!
And an inch and half isn't nothing when it could be the difference between a levee holding or being flooded.
Re: There is no 'placebo effect' in physics.
Well that's one way to deny reality, get a majority of votes in a pig-ignorant conservative state and just Outlaw Science!
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nati ... 8940.story
N.C. to sea level forecasters: Ignore climate change data for now
Global warming in our backyard Global warming in our backyard
As a heat wave rolls across U.S., scientists predict more to come As a heat wave rolls across U.S., scientists predict more to come
USGS: Sea level in Atlantic 'hot spot' rising faster than world's USGS: Sea level in Atlantic 'hot spot' rising faster than world's
By David Zucchino
July 3, 2012, 4:28 p.m.
Scientists with a state commission in North Carolina will not be permitted to issue formal predictions of sea level rise based on climate change – at least for the next four years.
After enduring national ridicule for proposing a bill to outlaw any coastal sea level projections based on climate change data, the state’s Republican-controlled Legislature came up with a compromise Tuesday. Lawmakers effectively put the sea level debate on hold by asking for more studies – but none that involve climate change.
The compromise legislation forbids the state’s Coastal Resources Commission from making any policies based on sea level change until at least July 2016.
The state House voted 68 to 46 on Tuesday for the measure, which was approved 40 to 1 by the state Senate on Monday. A spokesman for Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue, whose vetoes of three unrelated but equally controversial bills were overridden by the Legislature this week, said she had not decided whether to veto the sea level bill.
After scientists with the coastal commission predicted sea level rises of up to 39 inches along North Carolina’s coast by 2100, business and development interests in 20 coastal counties objected. Complaining that the 39-inch projection would cost millions in regulations and restrict development, they came up their own projections – no more than an 8-inch rise by 2100.
The Legislature responded this year with a bill to essentially ban predictions based on climate change, saying projections should be based on past patterns. That prompted ridicule from commentators, led by comedian Stephen Colbert, and condemnation from scientists.
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Next up, N. Carolina makes it illegal to point out that 'abstinence only' education leads to teen pregnancy.
yrs,
rubato
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nati ... 8940.story
N.C. to sea level forecasters: Ignore climate change data for now
Global warming in our backyard Global warming in our backyard
As a heat wave rolls across U.S., scientists predict more to come As a heat wave rolls across U.S., scientists predict more to come
USGS: Sea level in Atlantic 'hot spot' rising faster than world's USGS: Sea level in Atlantic 'hot spot' rising faster than world's
By David Zucchino
July 3, 2012, 4:28 p.m.
Scientists with a state commission in North Carolina will not be permitted to issue formal predictions of sea level rise based on climate change – at least for the next four years.
After enduring national ridicule for proposing a bill to outlaw any coastal sea level projections based on climate change data, the state’s Republican-controlled Legislature came up with a compromise Tuesday. Lawmakers effectively put the sea level debate on hold by asking for more studies – but none that involve climate change.
The compromise legislation forbids the state’s Coastal Resources Commission from making any policies based on sea level change until at least July 2016.
The state House voted 68 to 46 on Tuesday for the measure, which was approved 40 to 1 by the state Senate on Monday. A spokesman for Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue, whose vetoes of three unrelated but equally controversial bills were overridden by the Legislature this week, said she had not decided whether to veto the sea level bill.
After scientists with the coastal commission predicted sea level rises of up to 39 inches along North Carolina’s coast by 2100, business and development interests in 20 coastal counties objected. Complaining that the 39-inch projection would cost millions in regulations and restrict development, they came up their own projections – no more than an 8-inch rise by 2100.
The Legislature responded this year with a bill to essentially ban predictions based on climate change, saying projections should be based on past patterns. That prompted ridicule from commentators, led by comedian Stephen Colbert, and condemnation from scientists.
... '
"
Next up, N. Carolina makes it illegal to point out that 'abstinence only' education leads to teen pregnancy.
yrs,
rubato
Re: There is no 'placebo effect' in physics.
12 years ago there was an overwhelming consensus on climate change. For 12 years the willfully ignorant have impeded necessary progress.
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2012/07/y ... u-ask.html
Yes, the Global Warming Climate-Change Signal Is Emerging from the Weather Noise. Why Do You Ask?
Ongoing Heat Wave in U S Rivals Events of Dust Bowl Era | Climate Central
Climate Central:
Ongoing Heat Wave in U.S. Rivals Events of Dust Bowl Era: During the past 30 days, a stunning 6,439 warm temperature records were set or tied in the Lower 48 states, including 240 all-time warm temperature records. For the year-to-date, warm temperature records have been outpacing cold temperature records by a lopsided 7-to-1 margin.
In a long-term trend that demonstrates the effects of a warming climate, daily record-high temperatures have recently been outpacing daily record lows by an average of 2-to-1, and this imbalance is expected to grow as the climate continues to warm. According to a 2009 study, if the climate were not warming, this ratio would be expected to be even. Other studies have shown that global warming increases the odds of extreme heat events and may make them warmer and longer lasting.
The individual records set during the ongoing heat wave tell the story of how unusual this event has been so far…
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yrs,
rubato
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2012/07/y ... u-ask.html
Yes, the Global Warming Climate-Change Signal Is Emerging from the Weather Noise. Why Do You Ask?
Ongoing Heat Wave in U S Rivals Events of Dust Bowl Era | Climate Central
Climate Central:
Ongoing Heat Wave in U.S. Rivals Events of Dust Bowl Era: During the past 30 days, a stunning 6,439 warm temperature records were set or tied in the Lower 48 states, including 240 all-time warm temperature records. For the year-to-date, warm temperature records have been outpacing cold temperature records by a lopsided 7-to-1 margin.
In a long-term trend that demonstrates the effects of a warming climate, daily record-high temperatures have recently been outpacing daily record lows by an average of 2-to-1, and this imbalance is expected to grow as the climate continues to warm. According to a 2009 study, if the climate were not warming, this ratio would be expected to be even. Other studies have shown that global warming increases the odds of extreme heat events and may make them warmer and longer lasting.
The individual records set during the ongoing heat wave tell the story of how unusual this event has been so far…
"
yrs,
rubato