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Jury in BART case goes home for day, police prepare for unrest

LOS ANGELES — Police in Oakland underwent crowd-control training and were put on 12-hour shifts as they awaited a verdict in the shooting death of an unarmed black man by a white former transit officer who claimed he mistakenly drew his gun instead of his Taser.

A jury in Los Angeles ended its first day of deliberations Friday without reaching a verdict in the case against Johannes Mehserle. The panel will return Tuesday.

Mehserle, 28, has pleaded not guilty to murder in the shooting of 22-year-old Oscar Grant after a fight drew officers to the Fruitvale train station on New Year's Day 2009. Grant was shot while lying face down on the platform.

Several bystanders videotaped the New Year's Day 2009 incident — perhaps the most racially polarizing trial in California since four Los Angeles police officers were acquitted in 1992 in the Rodney King beating case.

In his closing argument, Alameda County Deputy District Attorney David Stein said police officers are supposed to protect and serve, not abuse their authority.

"We also entrust them with our lives and our fellow citizens," Stein said. "Oscar Grant represents one of those citizens."

Defense attorney Michael Rains contended the shooting was a tragic accident. He cited testimony that his client had inadequate training to prevent weapons confusion and witnesses who said Mehserle appeared to be in shock after shooting Grant.

"On Jan. 1, 2009, Johannes Mehserle fired a single gunshot and it brought him to this place before you, and you are his shot at justice," Rains told jurors, citing a line from the 1982 legal drama "The Verdict," starring Paul Newman.

In Oakland, police braced to prevent a repeat of the rioting that occurred after people first saw the grainy videos of the shooting.

A statement released Friday said the department had taken precautions, including shifting resources and identifying mutual aid options.

"We anticipate protests following the reading of the verdict and have heard of possible outside agitation in an attempt to turn the peaceful movement into acts of civil unrest," the statement said.

In Los Angeles, already tight security around the courthouse will be beefed up on verdict day.

"We have taken all precautions," county sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore said. "You will see a large number of deputy sheriffs, significantly more than before, and there will be stuff you won't see."

Mehserle resigned from the Bay Area Rapid Transit agency after the shooting. His trial was moved from Alameda County to Los Angeles because of excessive media coverage and racial tensions.

Another officer was heard on video uttering a slur before the shooting, but no evidence was presented during the trial that Mehserle's actions were influenced by prejudice.

Jurors must decide if Mehserle should be acquitted or found guilty of second-degree murder or a lesser offenses of voluntary or involuntary manslaughter.

The incident sent Oakland into a tailspin as violent street protests intensified the debate on whether Mehserle knowingly shot Grant, a young father from Hayward, Calif., who had been recently released from jail.

He became a martyr of sorts. His omnipresent image on buildings and storefront windows across Oakland arguably rivals that of slain hometown rapper Tupac Shakur.

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AP Writer Terry Collins in San Francisco contributed to this report.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/natio ... z0t0X9yzo7
It looks pretty straight forward to me...

I have a difficult time imagining how one could mistake a taser gun for a service revolver...I've had occasion to hold both the type of taser that Mehserle had and a gun similar to the one he had with him, (One of Lady Kelly's cousins is married to a cop) and it's pretty much inconceivable to me that anyone could mistake one for the other... that would seem like a huge hurdle to get over in front of a jury)

But we're now into day three of deliberations which suggests that there may be some folks on the jury that don't see it that way....

Given what happened when this case first became public, I think that concerns about violence in Oakland (and Los Angeles, where the case is being tried) are well founded.

If there is a "not guilty" or even a hung jury result in this case, I would not want to be in East Bay after the sun goes down.
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I've seen news footage of shop owners boarding up windows...

If the jury goes for anything other than 2nd degree murder, it's going to get ugly.

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Agreed, that 'Taser Confusion' defense seemed pretty weak to me considering the testimony that Mehserle had said, 'I'm going to tase him' isn't supported by the videos taken.

Also;
Through Meyer, Stein sought to underline the differences between the known cases of "Taser confusion" and the Mehserle case. While the right-handed Mehserle wore his Taser holster for a strong-handed draw like the other officers, he differed from them in that the holster was positioned on the left side of his body. Mehserle's holster was just to the left of his belt buckle.

In most of the other cases, Stein said, the officers carried black Taser M26 weapons, while Mehserle had a yellow Taser X26 - a newer model. And many of the other officers, unlike Mehserle, immediately reported that they had mistakenly fired their gun instead of their Taser.
So, Meherle's taser was on the complete opposite side of his body from his revolver... but he drew with the wrong hand entirely.

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As of 4:10 this afternoon (according to KQED radio), he's been found guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

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THERE'LL BE A HOT TIME IN THE OLD TOWN TONIGHT



Verse 1:
Come along get you ready, wear your bran, bran new gown,
For dere's gwine to be a meeting in that good, good old town,
Where you knowed ev'ry body, and they all knowed you,
And you've got a rabbits foot to keep away the hoodoo;
Where you hear that the preaching does begin,
Bend down low for to drive away your sin
And when you gets religion, you want to shout and sing
There'll be a hot time in the old town tonight!
My baby -


Chorus:
When you hear dem a bells go ding, ling ling,
All join 'round and sweetly you must sing
When the verse am through, in the chorus all join in,
There'll be a hot time in the old town tonight.


Verse 2:
There'll be girls for ev'ry body in that good, good old town,
For dere's Miss Consola Davis an dere's Miss Gondolia Brown;
And dere's Miss Johanna Beasly she am dressed all in red,
I just hugged her and I kissed her and to me then she said:
Please, oh please, oh, do not let me fall,
You're all mine and I love you best of all,
And you must be my man, or I'll have no man at all,
There'll be a hot time in the old town tonight!
My baby -
Chorus

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Well, surprise surprise.....

The rioting and looting started shortly after dark...About the only good thing that can be said about it is that it's become so predictable, the police, the merchants, and the residents all have time to prepare....

If I live to be 100, I'll never understand the "thought process" that goes like this:

"I'm outraged over this court decision. So to express my outrage over this miscarriage of justice, I'm going to steal some tennis shoes..."

Somehow, I just don't get the connection...
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Lord Jim wrote:Well, surprise surprise.....

The rioting and looting started shortly after dark...About the only good thing that can be said about it is that it's become so predictable, the police, the merchants, and the residents all have time to prepare....

Well, the news called the mood 'tense' as the sun set. The local hip hop radio stations tried their best to keep the mood upbeat, and their commercial breaks included the DJs imploring the listeners to 'Keep Oakland beautiful.' :drama:

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As the sun rises over the East Bay hills............











Oakland is still there.

Much to the late Gertrude Stein's dismay.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Frankly, from news reports I've seen, it wasn't as bad as I expected....

The preparedness of the police no doubt deserves some of the credit for this (as well as community and local religious leaders who really worked hard to try and tamp down violent impulses), but it wasn't the sort of wide spread rioting seen after the Rodney King decision, for example. (Maybe if it had been an acquittal it would have been worse) The violence was fairly localized to the immediate downtown area and was largely the work of the usual suspects....the little "anarchist" fucks, as well some street thugs who try to take advantage of any situation where the police seem to have their hands full...
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This ain't over;

Federal Probe into Transit Killing


... I'm surprised this didn't get more media coverage.

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In a statement Friday, the Justice Department's civil-rights division, the San Francisco U.S. Attorney's Office and the Federal Bureau of Investigation said they "have an open investigation into the fatal shooting and, at the conclusion of the state prosecution, will conduct an independent review of the facts and circumstances to determine whether the evidence warrants federal prosecution."
If the Feds are smart (rare) they'll let CA conduct its own investigation which will lead nowhere.

Merschle has been tried, convicted, and senetenced.

Yes, there are the yowling mobs who would be satisfied with nothing less than having the former BART policeman strung from a light standard on Fruitvale Ave. No doubt, these are the same jackals who believed the late Lovelle Mixon was a pure as the wind-driven snow.

Grant was a thug.

Did he deserve to die?

No.

If he would have kept his trap shut and stopped resisting arrest, he might be alive today.

All is not lost....

With the help of the crooked mouthpiece, Jim Burris.....look for a multi-million dollar payout to Grant's family.

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Lord Jim wrote: The violence was fairly localized to the immediate downtown area and was largely the work of the usual suspects....the little "anarchist" fucks, as well some street thugs who try to take advantage of any situation where the police seem to have their hands full...
Thankfully, it wasn't as bad as expected, but it turns out the didn't have to be that bad at all;

The SF Chronicle;
It must be noted that about 75 percent of those arrested on suspicion of crimes after the verdict Thursday were from outside of Oakland, according to Police Chief Anthony Batts. Many of them are anarchists. From their alleged actions, it is difficult to believe that they were interested in the case, or, for that matter, the city of Oakland.
:bollocks:


I understand city and law enforcement officials were better prepared to deal with this kind of situation; but this wasn't protest, just wanton vandalism and destruction that the Oakland and its business people had to pay for. I'm disgusted that the city of Oakland was taken advantage of this way. :evil:

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So am I.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Oh dear, a new buzz word "anarchists"...
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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We've had to put up with these little turds who call themselves "anarchists" going on three decades in the SF Bay Area.

These pathetic creeps think nothing of :stir: up all manner of sh-t. Oftern the sh-t that they :stir: has next to nothing to do with the event being protested.

It is one thing to be against the verdict, it is quit another to smash windows and loot store owners who had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the event that they are unhappy with.

These lawless hooligans should be placed in chain gangs and made to work on road crews in the sweltering heat of a LOOOOOONG California summer.

That'll learn the little fatherless bastards!

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