At what point do you turn in a loved one?
At what point do you turn in a loved one?
As I won't have tine to fill in the story at work. I'll just post the general question for now. At what point do you / can you draw the line and report a loved one to the authorities?
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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CP, it seems to me that it's impossible to answer that question without adding what the person is doing to the hypothetical....
I'm going to have a different threshold if a person is selling stolen merchandise than I would if they're engaging in serial killing....
Depending on the seriousness, and just how close a "loved one" this person was, and what kind of influence I might have with them, for petty criminality I'd probably try intermediate steps first...
For something truly serious, I might go straight to the cops as soon as I found out....
I'm going to have a different threshold if a person is selling stolen merchandise than I would if they're engaging in serial killing....
Depending on the seriousness, and just how close a "loved one" this person was, and what kind of influence I might have with them, for petty criminality I'd probably try intermediate steps first...
For something truly serious, I might go straight to the cops as soon as I found out....
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Seriousness, and the prospect of additional harm to innocents.
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Depends who it is and what he/she is doing. Murder? Immediately. Growing hydroponic pot? Never.
Treat Gaza like Carthage.
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Theoretically; is the damage the person doing (to another?) greater than the damage reporting them would be to the relationship?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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something that is even more taboo than what anyone has even mentioned.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Worse than a serial killer?something that is even more taboo than what anyone has even mentioned.
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Not liking cricket?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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3 letters CPS
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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DO IT NOW, IF NOT SOONER.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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LAst Saturday night My wife Called Child protective services on her sister and her husband. I believe she did the right thing and am likely unable to give a fair assessment of the story that I know to give a rasonable account. I may have mentioned my sister before and described her as "white trash" which she is. She is so white trash that if you'd ask dgs to give you an impression on what that phrase means it would be accurate. It was clear from the start that she is an unfit mother. (tho she is one 3 times over) Still that in and of itself is not cause for a call to CPS. the short version of events that led to the call was waking up Saturday morning with a slew of disturbing text and phone messages from both "adults" in the situation during a "domestic situation" occurring at the time. (2 am). No attempts to contact them that morning were returned so my wife had to embark on a cross state trip to find out what happened to them. (My wife finally got a return call shortly before she arrived)
The Gist of the story was alot of alcohol yelling threats of violence to oneself and others brandishing said weapon to carry out said threat (knife)
It was too much for my wife upon returning home she filed the report.
The Gist of the story was alot of alcohol yelling threats of violence to oneself and others brandishing said weapon to carry out said threat (knife)
It was too much for my wife upon returning home she filed the report.
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Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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No, not that bad. I thinkLord Jim wrote:Oh God CP, a child molester?
Hard to quantify the damage that has been done to those kids. The effects of being raised by a mother whose behavior verged on (if not met) Munchausen By Proxy Syndrome alone did alot to fuck those kids up.Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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GOOD JOB, c/p 
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Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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Was that going on when your wife got there?The Gist of the story was alot of alcohol yelling threats of violence to oneself and others brandishing said weapon to carry out said threat (knife)
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It was over she was at her MILs house (I've mentioned the winner that her mother is before who once again rose to the occasion to fail the mother role once again) (it was about 8-9 hours later it ended about 4am she sidn't get there till after noon.
I worry about the potential fallout should it come out who made the call (which is likely given my MIL knows)
I worry about the potential fallout should it come out who made the call (which is likely given my MIL knows)
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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They'll probably be pissed, but the worst part is that the they will probably just deny everything and nothing will happen, because there won't be any evidence since the cops will have gotten there so long after the event.
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You haven't seen the conditions they live in. White trash right down to the large poorly behaved Dog. This isn't the first time they have been brought to the attention of the state (I believe last time it was the School that raised a warning) hopefully they'll start paying attention.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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If your concern is that you only have a suspicion and not hard fact, contact CPS anyway. Based on what you tell them, they will make the determination on whether they have enough to justify opening an investigation. Don't let what you perceive to be a lack of evidence stop you; CPS will have ways of gathering evidence not available to you, if it exists.
If you have some other reason for not wanting to contact the authorities, you need to realize that, whatever the perpetrator has led you to believe, his/her behaviour will not stop, and you need to do whatever it takes to protect the child.
If you have some other reason for not wanting to contact the authorities, you need to realize that, whatever the perpetrator has led you to believe, his/her behaviour will not stop, and you need to do whatever it takes to protect the child.
"Hang on while I log in to the James Webb telescope to search the known universe for who the fuck asked you." -- James Fell
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It's really not a question of "evidence" its a question of the familial dynamics involved. from the attitude of "keep it in the Family" to the general attitude that you are critiquing ones ability to raise a family. I want to look at this from a social rather than a legal point of view.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.