If you listened to that clip and could not tell that he was off-key most of the time then you are tone deaf.
God cursed you with deafness? sorry.
yrs,
rubato
Sean wrote:
Actually, I have a well-trained musical ear. I also have absolute pitch. Not only that, I am aware of the technique of singing slightly flat intentionally. It is a trick used throughout jazz/blues music. You, obviously, are unaware of this. My advice is to look up Ella Fitzgerald and 'blue note'. That's a good starting point.
No charge for the lesson.
You are tone deaf. Your 'well trained musical ear' is a total gas. Pure crap.
I grew up listening to blues and jazz. Singing a slightly 'blue' note is common. My dad has a collection of thousands of 78s and hundreds of piano rolls of jazz. I grew up steeped in Fats Waller, James P. Johnson, and the immortal Jelly Roll Morton. This guy just wanders off-key both up and down with no musical reason.
Sorry girlie. You're self justification is a loser. As are you. Try listening to the link with someone not tone-deaf? Or is this about your pathetic ego? It is. isn't it? sorry.
I've spent over thirty years performing blues music. I have also taught music for twenty odd years. Many well-respected people have paid me lots of money to perform for and with them. I'm going to put a tad more faith in my ability than in that of some dipshit whose only musical claim is that he's listened to a lot of records.
Your comment on the blue note proves that you have no idea what it actually is. Did you just google it or something?
You also seem to have changed your thoughts on Harper from:
Plays good, sings flat. No, just sings well off-key. A lot.
to
This guy just wanders off-key both up and down with no musical reason.
(my bold)
I've come to the conclusion that you don't actually understand what pitch is!
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
Knowing that the retard has probably listened to you play, (abet unknowingly,) makes me howl with laughter!
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
Yeah but his dad's got a bigger collection than Sean does! Gales of derisive laughter all round.
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
Well this is the banal oaf who tried to tell me he knew more about Japanese culture than I did, as my puny three weeks studying Aikido in Osaka, and twenty year immersion in martial arts training, (second dan Aikido Shin Shin Toitsi and Shioda style, purple belt in Shotokan karate, brown belt in Ju-jitsu,) was of no value compared to his experience which consists of .....him and his father visiting a Shinto shrne in California when he was a kid....
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
That's for sure. I find it interesting that in order to be valid, singing must apparently conform to a specific set of rules rather than to the desired control of the artist. Different styles and kinds of music as well as varied artists require different approaches.
Roy Harper's distinctive voice may or may not sound off-key or flat (or sharp) to some people in places but it is what he wants to do and he is not wandering aimlessly around looking for perfect pitch. It may not work so well in opera or barber shop quartets.
Harper does not need to be "told" anything about how he should sing his songs. Nor does his audience need to question his preference. They are there to enjoy what he does - not what someone else thinks he should do
If "singing" were so restricted one wonders how on earth Bob Dylan ever got a hearing. And the same goes for Charlie Drake on "Please Mr. Custer" which achieved musical heights never before attempted and Glynis Johns singing "Send in the Clowns". And rubato must shiver with pleasure when Leon Redbone yodels. Leonard Cohen of course does not sing flat or off-key but extremely coherently, in tune and - OK well "Please Don't Pass Me By" (live 1973) even he labelled "a disgrace". But I digress.
Meade
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
MajGenl.Meade wrote: I find it interesting that in order to be valid, singing must apparently conform to Rubato's record collection.
Fixed
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
Fucking EMI is blocking the Buzzcocks clip! They were one of my all-time favorite power pop bands. (Saw them play twice.) I've always loved this song , but I can't find a decent performance clip of it:
I see the lads are back performing again, and I'm sorry to say it but they sound like a bunch of old men; Pete has lost that boyish urgency in his voice.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
Sue U wrote:
But come on, you didn't really expect me to sit through 7+ minutes of Steve Harley, did you?
yes!!
I sat through a 12 minute acoustic rendition of "Sebastian," Just Steve and a guitar. It was heavenly. Included two new verses.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
