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Friday, September 21, 2012
'Primetime Fox News And WSJ Editorial Climate Coverage Mostly Wrong'
Climate scientists document News Corporation's distortions on climate change:
Brenda Ekwurzel is a climate scientist with the Union of Concerned Scientists. She announced in New York City on September 21st the results of an analysis of climate change coverage at two major properties of the News Corporation, the Fox News Channel and the Wall Street Journal.
“What we found in our analysis was that a staggering 93 percent of all occurrences in the last six months in the prime time news of Fox News were misleading occurrences of climate science. Okay, for the Wall Street Journal opinion section in the last year, we found a surprising 81 percent of the occurrences were misleading. And of the accurate ones, these were all letters to the editor that were submitted in response to misrepresentations in editorials or other letters. So, a broad swath of News Corporation viewers and readership are being misled about the science.”
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yrs,
rubato
Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
Anything from the Union of Concerned Scientists is left-wing claptrap.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
Gee, it's been a long time since he's tried to pass off anything coming from that bunch as reputable "science" around here...Anything from the Union of Concerned Scientists is left-wing claptrap.
Maybe he thought no one would notice.....
Good catch Dale...
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
One of the huge mistakes that some of the idiots in my party are making, is to deny, or attempting to disbelieve, that "global warming" is taking place...
It's stupid both because it's bad science, (the average ambient temperature on the planet has been rising over the past 100 years; there's no way to deny it; that's just math) and worse because it plays into the hands of the global warming alarmists politically..."These people are so stupid, they can't even tell the world is getting warmer..."
The intelligent debate, ought to be not about whether or not global warming is taking place, (which it surely is) but rather about the extent to which human activity is responsible for it, and having determined that, what rational and prudent response we should have that would be commensurate with our responsibility to deal with it, that would not upend the global economy...
Because until we have a reasonable understanding of to what extent we are contributing to the problem, we can't possibly know what our response should be...
But we cannot have this discussion, when we have one party with some factions, (mine) that wants to deny this is happening at all, and the other, (the party opposite) who wants to ascribe full responsibility for it to human behavior, and use it as an excuse to pursue its agenda...
Based on what we do know, there is very good reason to believe that human activity has a fairly small role to play in the current round of "Global Warming"....
We have reason to believe this, because the ambient temperature of the earth rose at a faster rate between 1900 and 1950 than it has since 1950...
And obviously, since 1950, the amount of carbon dioxide put into the atmosphere due to human activity, is far higher than it was between 1900 and 1950...
But even if human activity represents a small portion of impact on what would otherwise be a natural rhythm of the planet, that doesn't mean we have to stand idly by and accept it...
For example, the vast majority of the oxygen that is produced in our atmosphere after having the CO2 processed isn't produced by forests...
It's produced by algae in the oceans...has been for eons...
So, if we want to reduce the carbon dioxide quantity in the atmosphere, and thus reduce "global warming"...(regardless of whether or not it's the result of human activity or the natural rhythms of the planet)
Perhaps it would make more sense to invest in the development of a more efficient bio-engineered algae that we could release into the oceans than it would suck up more carbon dioxide and produce more oxygen...
That might be a better strategy than trying to get everyone to drive around in Smart Cars....
It's stupid both because it's bad science, (the average ambient temperature on the planet has been rising over the past 100 years; there's no way to deny it; that's just math) and worse because it plays into the hands of the global warming alarmists politically..."These people are so stupid, they can't even tell the world is getting warmer..."
The intelligent debate, ought to be not about whether or not global warming is taking place, (which it surely is) but rather about the extent to which human activity is responsible for it, and having determined that, what rational and prudent response we should have that would be commensurate with our responsibility to deal with it, that would not upend the global economy...
Because until we have a reasonable understanding of to what extent we are contributing to the problem, we can't possibly know what our response should be...
But we cannot have this discussion, when we have one party with some factions, (mine) that wants to deny this is happening at all, and the other, (the party opposite) who wants to ascribe full responsibility for it to human behavior, and use it as an excuse to pursue its agenda...
Based on what we do know, there is very good reason to believe that human activity has a fairly small role to play in the current round of "Global Warming"....
We have reason to believe this, because the ambient temperature of the earth rose at a faster rate between 1900 and 1950 than it has since 1950...
And obviously, since 1950, the amount of carbon dioxide put into the atmosphere due to human activity, is far higher than it was between 1900 and 1950...
But even if human activity represents a small portion of impact on what would otherwise be a natural rhythm of the planet, that doesn't mean we have to stand idly by and accept it...
For example, the vast majority of the oxygen that is produced in our atmosphere after having the CO2 processed isn't produced by forests...
It's produced by algae in the oceans...has been for eons...
So, if we want to reduce the carbon dioxide quantity in the atmosphere, and thus reduce "global warming"...(regardless of whether or not it's the result of human activity or the natural rhythms of the planet)
Perhaps it would make more sense to invest in the development of a more efficient bio-engineered algae that we could release into the oceans than it would suck up more carbon dioxide and produce more oxygen...
That might be a better strategy than trying to get everyone to drive around in Smart Cars....
Last edited by Lord Jim on Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
As has been pointed out before Smart cars suck and are an all around bad choice so jut about anything would be a better strategy.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
Smart cars are very popular in Paris where parking is scarce and two of them fit in one space.Crackpot wrote:As has been pointed out before Smart cars suck and are an all around bad choice so jut about anything would be a better strategy.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
Lying apparently just doesn't bother some people.
Dales and LJ believe everything they read in Murdoch's press and don't believe the UCS.
This very unsurprising fact is noted.
yrs,
rubato
Dales and LJ believe everything they read in Murdoch's press and don't believe the UCS.
This very unsurprising fact is noted.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
God, you're a childish little twat retard. You've a mental age of about five...
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
With the social skills of a tree stump. 
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
But on the bright side I respond to the topic at hand and am not a craven coward.
Only a jackass believes Rupert Murdoch more than the UCS.
yrs,
rubato
Only a jackass believes Rupert Murdoch more than the UCS.
yrs,
rubato
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Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
Lord Jim responded to the topic, but since he disparaged your source, you ignored everything else he said.
After all, a "jackass who only believes Rupert Murdoch" wouldn't even accept that global warming was happening.
After all, a "jackass who only believes Rupert Murdoch" wouldn't even accept that global warming was happening.
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
Lord Jim said that Rupert Murdoch always tells the truth and the UCS always lies.
Not a credible response from an intelligent person.
yrs,
rubato
Not a credible response from an intelligent person.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
rubato wrote:Lord Jim said that Rupert Murdoch always tells the truth and the UCS always lies.
Not a credible response from an intelligent person.
yrs,
rubato
Just making sure this blatant lie doesn't get edited away.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
Cheap gin and Aspergers, nasty combination...
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
If he believed that Rupert Murdoch always told the truth then he would not have admitted to believing that global warming is real.rubato wrote: Lord Jim said that Rupert Murdoch always tells the truth and the UCS always lies.
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
If he read the opening post he would have seen that the thread was about Murdoch's press lying and being caught at it.
But he often does not bother to read. Or respond on-topic.
Here he claimed that the UCS were liars. Not credible. Sorry. More lying by misdirection.
They don't want to deal with the fact that their entire party and its infrastructure of professional liars (Fox News) have denied the truth for more than 10 years and stopped us from doing anything useful to change the course of history. Here they take the rather pathetic tactic of trying to change the debate to be about a specific person rather than their own mulishness or try (and fail) to cast doubt on an unimpeached source like the UCS..
yrs,
rubato
But he often does not bother to read. Or respond on-topic.
Here he claimed that the UCS were liars. Not credible. Sorry. More lying by misdirection.
They don't want to deal with the fact that their entire party and its infrastructure of professional liars (Fox News) have denied the truth for more than 10 years and stopped us from doing anything useful to change the course of history. Here they take the rather pathetic tactic of trying to change the debate to be about a specific person rather than their own mulishness or try (and fail) to cast doubt on an unimpeached source like the UCS..
yrs,
rubato
Re: Liar, Liar, Climate's on Fire:
rubato wrote:If he read the opening post he would have seen that the thread was about Murdoch's press lying and being caught at it.
Which on retard's planet equates to
is retard soused, or stupid, or both, you decide....rubato wrote:Lord Jim said that Rupert Murdoch always tells the truth and the UCS always lies.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”