"High pain threshold" WTH?

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Wow! Seriously risky treatments or what? :D
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This is interesting;
Subcutaneous nerve stimulation (SNS) is a technique for modifying pain. It may be used as an alternative treatment to transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation when TENS will be applied over a long duration and for several hours per day.

To perform SNS, a multi-contact electrode is first implanted in the subcutaneous connective tissue of the skin (above the immediate pain area). After a test phase, the electrode is connected with an electrical nerve stimulation device that is also implanted under the skin. SNS is a minimally invasive intervention.

The aim of SNS is to prevent or suppress pain by modulating the pain fibers. A handheld programming device enables the patient to self-adjust the stimulation parameters within the range established by the treating physician, thus optimizing the effectiveness of the treatment.
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I have a difficult time with burns, scalding and things like poison oak. My nerves are very close to the surface and there are times when the tag in a shirt can drive me bonkers. Almost like when you have a fever and your skin becomes painful to the touch. My nerves are sensitive but I have a high tolerance for pain. I'm pretty sure having braces helped. Just when the pain subsides you are due for another tightening of the wires. You almost learn to love the pain. :|

The other thing is what adrenaline can do regarding pain tolerance. :arg I don't feel any injuries when my adrenaline is pumping. Of course that also depends on the reason the adrenaline is elevated (fight/flight or just working out).

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Oh adrenaline can be FUN!!

When I had my bike crash last year, the first thing I did, after bouncing off the taxi bonnet and then the road, was to get up and get ready to throw a punch at the taxi driver.

Then I sat down again as I wasn't actualy able to stand. (The punch wouldn't have been up to much either, not with a dislocated claivcle and shoulder...)
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PMS Princess wrote: I'm pretty sure having braces helped. Just when the pain subsides you are due for another tightening of the wires. You almost learn to love the pain. :|
Have you tried using a belt? A more painful alternative is to staple the waistband to the waist but you know it's not popular and it hurts even more when you use those little claw things to go to the bathroom

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Most folks here are describing is conditioning, rather than 'congenital analgesia'*. That is- teaching yourself what are the tolerable limits of pain without incuring significant damage. That is the rational judgement I spoke of: thinking about your physical abilites, when pain is felt; and not knee-jerk reacting to the slightest unpleasant sensation.


*Congenital insensitivity to pain (CIP), also known as congenital analgesia, is one or more rare conditions where a person cannot feel (and has never felt) physical pain. The conditions described here are separate from the HSAN group of disorders, which have more specific signs and etiology.

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My aim was to show you that all humans do not share identical nervous systems lo. I think I've achieved that...
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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Agreed.
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Sean wrote:My aim was to show you that all humans do not share identical nervous systems lo. I think I've achieved that...


Yup, and I've explained that that was not the point of defining tolerance.

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loCAtek wrote:
Sean wrote:
loCAtek wrote:I've not been any studies, but I deal with pain every day... Personally, I don't think folks nervous systems are any different; I do still feel pain, I just rationally judge how I am going to respond to it , that is tolerating it- much like different people can tolerate hot or cold weather.
Actually, people's nervous systems can vary by a large amount for various reasons. For example, if you and I were to sit down and have somebody inflict identical injuries to a specific part of our right wrists, I'd bet a very large amount of money that you'd feel pain before I did!

However, I specified, I do feel pain. The point is: I tolerate it.
I can tolerate the pain, and still function

...let's not say "well", but at higher levels than most is sufficient.

By way of example, here's what happened to My Ex and I, when we experienced the same type of pain;

Many moons ago, for brunch I was fixing a simple fare of hard-boiled eggs before the main course. In minutes, they were done, so I drained off the scalding water, and deftly reached into the pot bare-handed; plucked out the eggs and put them into a friendlier bowl for serving. As I placed them before My Ex at the table, I cautioned, "Careful, they're hot."

As I turned towards the kitchen, I heard him exclaim, "OW!!!
They're HOT!!!" ... as he dropped an egg.

His eyes glared at me accusingly, so I reminded him, "I told you, they were hot!"

"But, you touched them!" My Ex cried.

I retorted, "I'm a welder."

Technically, the pain level should have been exactly the same: the same nerves, the same eggs, at the same temperature (maybe they were a tiny bit hotter, while I held them) ...but it was the reactions to that pain, that were different.
I suspect that, like my uncle, your hands are callused. He can boil water in a coffee mug in the microwave and take it out bare-handed. Due to his thickly-callused hands (mechanic and pistol shooter), he just doesn't feel it.
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oldr_n_wsr wrote:In the summer I go barefoot a lot, my wife always wears sandals or some other kind of footwear. Both of us step on the same sharp rock (both bare foot). Who is going to feel more pain?
She will...your feet are toughened by going barefoot more often.

Well, unless she's a 90lb waif and you're a 350lb...err, big guy.
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loCAtek wrote:
Sean wrote:My aim was to show you that all humans do not share identical nervous systems lo. I think I've achieved that...


Yup, and I've explained that that was not the point of defining tolerance.
Alright lo, you're playing dumb and acting the twat now and I'm not going to be drawn into one of your little drama fests.
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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Jarlaxle wrote:
oldr_n_wsr wrote:In the summer I go barefoot a lot, my wife always wears sandals or some other kind of footwear. Both of us step on the same sharp rock (both bare foot). Who is going to feel more pain?
She will...your feet are toughened by going barefoot more often.

Well, unless she's a 90lb waif and you're a 350lb...err, big guy.
Nope, She's......... uh can't say for fear of retribution, lets leave at she's 5'2" and normal wieght for that size. I'm 5'11" and about 185lbs. ;)

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Jarlaxle wrote:
I suspect that, like my uncle, your hands are callused. He can boil water in a coffee mug in the microwave and take it out bare-handed. Due to his thickly-callused hands (mechanic and pistol shooter), he just doesn't feel it.
As said, I feel it. I just have an internal monologue judging what is damaging or debilitating.

Pepper spray was felt extremely well [OUCH!!!!!] ...but I was also aware that no physical damage was in reality, occurring,

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The amount of "feeling" is really the question.
If you take a pin and prick your calloused skin, it feels different than when you prick (at the same pressure) an uncalloused area.

Or take a piece of sand paper and sand hte calloused skin. Record how long it takes to actually hurt. Then do the same to an uncalloused area and record how long it take to actually hurt.

Different skin types with the same nervous system (this is, your nervous system). So it's not that hard to think that different people, have different nervous systems. While we all might have the same structure some are more sensetive than others. Not all of the reation to sensitivity is control from the brain.

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Exactly oldr! As an example, some people are a lot more ticklish than others...
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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Sean wrote:Exactly oldr! As an example, some people are a lot more ticklish than others...
I am not really ticklish at all, but my wife, there are certain spots that....... :D

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...that need not be mentioned on this board! :lol:
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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That's right, those are my secrets :mrgreen:

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Try tickleing yourself.

that is Why I can turn "tickleish" off.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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